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Old 07-09-2008, 03:14 PM   #1
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AVNONLINE: DOJ Will Continue Obscenity Prosecutions

In testimony this morning before the Senate Judiciary Committee's hearing on Department of Justice (DOJ) Oversight, Attorney General Michael Mukasey said that his agency will continue conducting "targeted, efficient" prosecutions of adult material, citing the government's recent victory in the Max Hardcore case in Tampa, Fla. as justification for continuing its attempted porn purge.


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Old 07-09-2008, 03:28 PM   #2
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I guess EU credit card processors will start gaining more business now that they are forcing the business out of USA.
If I am not mistaken both Oral and Anal is considered obscene in some states, can anyone confirm? Also there was at some point 1 state where it was illegal to have sex on sundays, would a website displaying live sex shows be obscene in that state?
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This doesn't look good. These guys want to rack up some prosecutions before they get out of office.
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With Obama in power this all comes to a halt. He is the most progressive liberal in the history of US politics.

How anyone on this board can support a party that is a threat to all or part of their livelihood is something they never explain.
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The land of the free, where the government tells you what you can watch in your house and what not.
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With Obama in power this all comes to a halt. He is the most progressive liberal in the history of US politics.

How anyone on this board can support a party that is a threat to all or part of their livelihood is something they never explain.
i agree its like jews supporting the nazi's. the dems dont love us but they have better things to do.
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Damn, i am following the max case with baited breath
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Damn, i am following the max case with baited breath
be sure to exhale, he was found guilty



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In testimony this morning before the Senate Judiciary Committee's hearing on Department of Justice (DOJ) Oversight, Attorney General Michael Mukasey said that his agency will continue conducting "targeted, efficient" prosecutions of adult material, citing the government's recent victory in the Max Hardcore case in Tampa, Fla. as justification for continuing its attempted porn purge.


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Yeah until Jan 20, 2009 when he's out of job. If Obama wins I seriously doubt AG John Edwards will worry about porn.
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i agree its like jews supporting the nazi's. the dems dont love us but they have better things to do.
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I don't trust him anymore .....
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I don't trust him anymore .....
who cares about "trust". I want cheap gas and less PTSD crazies running around.
And I don't care who does it, but McCain says he's ready for another 100 years
of this. I'm not ready for another 100 seconds.
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With Obama in power this all comes to a halt. He is the most progressive liberal in the history of US politics.

How anyone on this board can support a party that is a threat to all or part of their livelihood is something they never explain.
People vote against their best interest all the time. Most of the red states vote Republican and are hurt more by their policies than blue states. People in this country vote based on the guy they want to have a beer with or what their favorite radio talk show host tells them to do. It's why we have such a poorly run government.
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I don't trust him anymore .....
I don't really either, but it can't be any worse than what we have now. I know no President will ever get elected in this country who is anti-war. There are just too many redneck chickenhawks in this country to have that happen. It's just the lesser of two evils, and Obama is it at the moment.
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People vote against their best interest all the time. Most of the red states vote Republican and are hurt more by their policies than blue states. People in this country vote based on the guy they want to have a beer with or what their favorite radio talk show host tells them to do. It's why we have such a poorly run government.
I was talking about this. I dont want a guy I would have a beer with, I want the person who runs my country to be better than me and alot smarter. lol
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Cheap gas is history ....

But if you want the novel opinion of an oil man, take a peek at : http://www.pickensplan.com/
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I was talking about this. I dont want a guy I would have a beer with, I want the person who runs my country to be better than me and alot smarter. lol
I agree. I can't believe these people who come out and say "Obama is elitist". Well I'd fucking hope so. I hope anyone who is running this country is elite.
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But if you want the novel opinion of an oil man, take a peek at : http://www.pickensplan.com/
Interesting opinion, but Pickens is still a fucking scumbag who I wouldn't trust. He was one of the main guys behind the swiftboat ads. Our shitty energy policy is thanks to him and the others who voted for Bush. Funny to watch a guy with political views such as his take a stance that is a complete 360 from what he supports financially.
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I guarantee they have their sites set on youporn considering it's basically mainstream now.
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Go back and read it again and think about it.

Yes they will go after the Max Hardcores of the world. And if you produce content like his you had best not be doing it in the US or you might get yourself in trouble. You know what you produce and you take the risks or getting caught. If you can't stand the risk GTFO of the business. Or shoot softcore.

And please don't tell me I'm in Europe so I'm safe. I produced porn for decades in the UK and always jumped when the door bell rung. I've had the police bust my door down at 5.00 in the morning armed with a sledge hammer and a search warrant. How many here know how that feels?

Going after pornographers is a publicity exercise. It has nothing to do with protecting children, society or anything else they spout about. It's about getting old ladies to vote them back into their cushy over paid, gift ridden jobs in a few months.

If they wanted to really make a difference to the porn that's so easily attainable they could do it for easier and cheaper than going after a couple of extreme porn guys.

No hardcore until it's paid for would be a good start. Taking down illegal free sites open to anyone another.
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If you read the article it sounds like they will still only go after the most extreme of the stuff. The AG even said he doesn't want to do something too tame and lose which would legitimize that part of porn, he only wants to go after the extreme stuff. If he tries say, an interracial site, and loses it would make that "acceptable" and that is not what he wants.

But in a few months we will have a new president and we have an above average shot of having a democrat who will probably be less enthusiastic about going after us.
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People vote against their best interest all the time. Most of the red states vote Republican and are hurt more by their policies than blue states. People in this country vote based on the guy they want to have a beer with or what their favorite radio talk show host tells them to do. It's why we have such a poorly run government.
People are just so convinced THEY are the enlightened one. Every single fucking one of them. Whatever they've decided is right, and there can be no doubts about it.

They should let you pick someone you admire, and give your vote to them. Maybe then there'd be some fucking sense in the voting.

The average person is just not capable of making such decisions.
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People are just so convinced THEY are the enlightened one. Every single fucking one of them. Whatever they've decided is right, and there can be no doubts about it.

They should let you pick someone you admire, and give your vote to them. Maybe then there'd be some fucking sense in the voting.

The average person is just not capable of making such decisions.
This is true. A couple months back Obama was in my city to speak. 75,000 people show up to see him. A friend of mine that is a conservative shows me a picture that was in the newspaper from the event. It seems that the flags in the park he was speaking at were at half mast for a police office that had recently died. Whoever organized the event put the porta-poties right in the area with the flags. It is kind of in bad taste, but he is convinced it was done on purpose by Obama's people as a show of disrespect to the police. The reality is that it was probably done by the city and that spot was picked because it was centrally located.

He will not vote for Obama because of that.
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Seriously though, I hope you mean the most liberal to be the nominee of a major party. There are alot of folks in politics today that are alot more liberal, much less in the history of US politics.
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Seriously though, I hope you mean the most liberal to be the nominee of a major party. There are alot of folks in politics today that are alot more liberal, much less in the history of US politics.
Don't argue. Whatever conservative blog/radio show/tv show that parrots it every 5 minutes isn't to be questioned.
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so how come hundreds of porn video tube sites are being hosted on US server with dozens new springing up everyday?
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With Obama in power this all comes to a halt. He is the most progressive liberal in the history of US politics.

How anyone on this board can support a party that is a threat to all or part of their livelihood is something they never explain.
And right now he is dancing with the christian groups to get into office.
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If I am not mistaken both Oral and Anal is considered obscene in some states, can anyone confirm? Also there was at some point 1 state where it was illegal to have sex on sundays, would a website displaying live sex shows be obscene in that state?
My understanding from speaking to a number of attorneys and constitutional law scholars on this subject is that regardless of how a given state or municipality's obscenity laws are written, such laws will not survive court scrutiny if they are substantially more specific than the Miller test.

The only sex acts that are patently illegal to depict are those involving minors (and that's handled under statutes relating to child pornography, not obscenity), and those that constitute a recording of truly non-consensual sexual activity (and such depictions are not "porn," they are documentation of criminal acts).

There are quite a few states that still have anti-sodomy laws on their books, but such laws essentially have been rendered moot by the Supreme Court's ruling in Lawrence v. Texas.

It's all well and good to have a law that says "no anal sex allowed," but actually enforcing such a law is a very different story, in light of the court's ruling in the Lawrence case. The same can be said for obscenity statutes that get more specific than the Miller test, as that test defines (vaguely, at best) the extent of the government's ability to restrict sexually explicit depictions, which are presumed to be protected by the First Amendment until "proven" obscene at trial.
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This is true. A couple months back Obama was in my city to speak. 75,000 people show up to see him. A friend of mine that is a conservative shows me a picture that was in the newspaper from the event. It seems that the flags in the park he was speaking at were at half mast for a police office that had recently died. Whoever organized the event put the porta-poties right in the area with the flags. It is kind of in bad taste, but he is convinced it was done on purpose by Obama's people as a show of disrespect to the police. The reality is that it was probably done by the city and that spot was picked because it was centrally located.

He will not vote for Obama because of that.
You're friend is a retard and unfortunately there are millions of retards like him that vote and that's why we get the kind of government we have. So while it may sound undemocratic I don't think the everyone SHOULD necessarily get to vote. If I keep up on things and pay attention to the issues why should the vote of some dipshit who enver pays attention and only knowledge of the candidates and the issues is stuff he heard from other reatrds, count the same as my vote. My vote is INFORMED and based at least on some kind of logic.

I'm not a huge c-span freak but I probably watch it more in one month than the average voter does in 5 years.
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Pretty amazing that you can read this and think that there are actually people on this forum who are in the adult business and side with their views.
scary isnt it lol
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While I don't like him going to jail I also don't like his brand of pornography and I think it does degrade society.

People like him make it great to be in mainstream porn... The jackals chase him instead of the rest of the heard... Who is next?
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While I don't like him going to jail I also don't like his brand of pornography and I think it does degrade society.

People like him make it great to be in mainstream porn... The jackals chase him instead of the rest of the heard... Who is next?
While I generally agree with the sentiment about Max, it is hard to believe a society that elected Bush twice could be further degraded.

To my fellow pornographers who vote Republican: please post on this string so I can stop doing business with you. You are hypocrites, a menace, and cannot be trusted.
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