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topnotch, standup guy · 10-26-2008, 08:17 PM

Looks like someone is letting their fifteen minutes of fame go to their head

Hotrocket · 10-26-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

The fact you agree with sticky tells me all I need to know about you.

that works both ways now doesn't it?

BobG · 10-26-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Its simple really. He asked Obama a simple hypothetical question in his own front yard. He did not request Obama to come there. So much for the (keating conspiracy) lol. He asks him the question we all know what he asked. Obama answered. Doesn't matter whether he already owns it. In fact I think its pretty damn smart to find out the answers before he takes over the business. Him and his boss had already talked about him taking over the business. So regardless of the license, his current salary etc, the guy wanted an answer. Obama answered in a way that obviously sparked up an issue with a large percentage of the country. Spread the wealth. All these diversions on Joe, and Joe's background, tax history, current license situation, etc etc are all bs.

Why in the world a private citizen asking an honest question deserves him to have his life torn apart is beyond me. I don't care if he is running for office. If he does more power to him. We need more people like that in office imo. Common sense non elitists that know they are in office to serve, not to be served. Ok back to my Wendy's frosty and Hamburger mmmmm.

Because it wasn't an honest question. Honest would have been, "I make 40k but I have a dream to own my bosses business which makes $250k one day." Then Obama would have said, "well great Joe, you fall under 250k so you will get a tax cut under my plan which will help you save money to buy that business." "Furthermore, even when you do buy it, since you will not take home 250k from it for sometime (because of overhead, expenses...), you will continue to save, likely through my entire term(s)." Joe knew that spelling it out clearly and honestly would not have served his agenda well, which practically, logically, clearly, every way you look at it, must not have anything to do with taxes. What Joe did is called subterfuge and it's pretty slick actually.

GatorB · 10-26-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrocket

that works both ways now doesn't it?

Surely you know how stupid that makes you sound. Me not agreeing with sticky makes me look smart and like a decent human being. Sticky is POS.

dav3 · 10-26-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Common sense non elitists that know they are in office to serve, not to be served. Ok back to my Wendy's frosty and Hamburger mmmmm.

Ahahah, clearly you have no clue what you are talking about and fell right in the trap. Numerous independent national polls have shown that anyone with common sense orders the spicy chicken from Wendy's!

stickyfingerz · 10-26-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BobG

Because it wasn't an honest question. Honest would have been, "I make 40k but I have a dream to own my bosses business which makes $250k one day." Then Obama would have said, "well great Joe, you fall under 250k so you will get a tax cut under my plan which will help you save money to buy that business." "Furthermore, even when you do buy it, since you will not take home 250k from it for sometime (because of overhead, expenses...), you will continue to save, likely through my entire term(s)." Joe knew that spelling it out clearly and honestly would not have served his agenda well, which practically, logically, clearly, every way you look at it, must not have anything to do with taxes. What Joe did is called subterfuge and it's pretty slick actually.

Ok you have probably only seen the video that cuts off the first part. Joe clearly tells Obama he is about to buy a company. He clearly says I am getting ready to buy a company that makes 250 to 280k a year. I know most of the networks out there cut that part off, so can't blame you for not knowing that.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JDVM7...eature=related

stickyfingerz · 10-26-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Surely you know how stupid that makes you sound. Me not agreeing with sticky makes me look smart and like a decent human being. Sticky is POS.

Yes you are the cream of the crop...

I won't go dirty and leave it at that.

Hotrocket · 10-26-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Surely you know how stupid that makes you sound. Me not agreeing with sticky makes me look smart and like a decent human being. Sticky is POS.

thats what you come back with?

weak...

let me know when you have actually formed a coherent thought you have the capability of expressing above a 2nd grade level.

tony286 · 10-26-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BobG

Because it wasn't an honest question. Honest would have been, "I make 40k but I have a dream to own my bosses business which makes $250k one day." Then Obama would have said, "well great Joe, you fall under 250k so you will get a tax cut under my plan which will help you save money to buy that business." "Furthermore, even when you do buy it, since you will not take home 250k from it for sometime (because of overhead, expenses...), you will continue to save, likely through my entire term(s)." Joe knew that spelling it out clearly and honestly would not have served his agenda well, which practically, logically, clearly, every way you look at it, must not have anything to do with taxes. What Joe did is called subterfuge and it's pretty slick actually.

you are right and sticky sticks with a party that does nothing for him.

stickyfingerz · 10-26-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

you are right and sticky sticks with a party that does nothing for him.

Nope I love Bob, but he is 100% wrong. Watch the video I linked in the post above. Joe CLEARLY states he isn't the biz owner. He says he may buy the business he works from off his boss.

D Ghost · 10-26-2008, 11:27 PM

"Politics is a big part of my life. I love how American government works," - WOW. This misinformed and naive individual obviously has no idea how American Politics works.

BobG · 10-26-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Nope I love Bob, but he is 100% wrong. Watch the video I linked in the post above. Joe CLEARLY states he isn't the biz owner. He says he may buy the business he works from off his boss.

Sticky, I know, I have seen the whole thing. That is the part that is false. In fact Joe has since admitted that he is no where near "getting ready" to buy anything and that owning his bosses business is "a dream" (exact quote from the show Huckabee on Fox). He used "getting ready to..." as subterfuge, again since he would have not had a leg to stand on if he had just been clear and truthful (clear and truthful = "I make 40k but I have a dream to own my bosses business which makes $250k one day.").
Joe is against Obama, but it ain't because of taxes, it cannot possibly be since he'll save under Obama's plan and isn't anywhere near "getting ready" to buy anything nor make $250k+.

I don't necessarily agree with Obama's plans part about raising taxes on the rich. I understand that it's not so much as a tax hike as it is setting the rates back to where they were before Bush cut them. I can appreciate Obama's ambition to help out middle class people like Joe who are suffering under the current climate.

Fact is there are many subtle and sometimes maybe dark and not so politically correct reasons that people have to vote for each candidate that go unspoken. If you read between the lines, this whole "Joe the Plumber" situation illustrates that well and not much else.

SeanHart · 10-29-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

Joe said he wasn't required to have a license because his boss was licensed..
but:

His boss, Al Newell of Newell Plumbing and Heating Co. of Toledo, is a licensed plumbing contractor in Toledo, records show. But anyone working under Newell should have a journeyman?s plumbing license or an apprenticeship license, officials said.

And the county Wurzelbacher and Newell live in, Lucas County, requires plumbers to have licenses, but neither is licensed there, said Cheryl Schimming of Lucas County Building Regulations, which handles plumber licenses in parts of the county outside Toledo.

He's licensed in other counties, but not the one he's based in..
Could be a little problem for em' both if not fixed...

I'll put this info in the Who Gives A Shit? File.

Joe the Plumber was probably on the Republican/Fox News payroll from the get-go.

Hotrocket · 10-29-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanHart

I'll put this info in the Who Gives A Shit? File.

Joe the Plumber was probably on the Republican/Fox News payroll from the get-go.

Apparently you are unaware that it was OBAMA that went TO Joe the plumbers house...lol

Corleone · 10-30-2008, 12:02 AM

nobody will remember him in 2 weeks from now

10-26-2008, 08:17 PM	#51
topnotch, standup guy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Here and there. Posts: 1,562	Looks like someone is letting their fifteen minutes of fame go to their head

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D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	"Politics is a big part of my life. I love how American government works," - WOW. This misinformed and naive individual obviously has no idea how American Politics works.

10-30-2008, 12:02 AM	#65
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	nobody will remember him in 2 weeks from now