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GatorB · 11-17-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

If you do not believe in anything you stand for nothing.

So believeing in something fake is better than not accepting reality? Gotcha.

Klen · 11-17-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly

God doesn't believe in you. If god were a webmaster the earth is a website he forgot to update millions of years ago. He's on to bigger and better things ...

Earth has become illegall tube site

GatorB · 11-17-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3

I would have to agree with you MetaMan. Atheists don't want to believe that there is a God without proof. But how can you say that there isn't a God or higher spirit or energy or whatever without proving that there isn't?

So obviously, the only logical religious orientation is Agnostic. Neither side (believers/atheists) has proof of their claims, so therefore no one knows.

I don't have proof Santa doesn't exist. You can't really prove a negative. I am 100% certain that Santa is not real and you are 100% certain too, but with God if you don't have proof then you somehow are required to leave open the possibility. Um..no.

MetaMan · 11-17-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

I was agreeing with what you said and added my 2 cents to it...
I've found that a lot of people who run around calling themselves atheists are just as sheep-ish as the Christians they love to argue with...even worse are the so-called satanists...they think by doing everything the exact opposite of Christians, they are being rebels and fail to realize Satan is a christian creation...

100% agreed with you.

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

This is one of your better threads.

thanks CD

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy

I don't see the significance, benefit or utility of calling nature or everything god... Ayahuasca or not. I've experienced the interconnectedness of all things with a mind full of psilocybin but I wouldn't call that god. God is the awe of the unknown... The awe of not being able to comprehend the largeness of the universe... or a tree.. or a single cell. I don't think of that as God or Gaia any more than I think of a the line of script in Comus that keeps the good thumbs near the top a God. It's just part of a complex system. I don't see god-as-everything as any different from having a tree god and a rock god and a rain god that you sacrifice a goat to so that your crop can grow. It depends on how you define it of course. Some people just call the system Gaia.. The same way you call a terminal of the interconnectedness of air travel an airport. Others feel there is some component of worship involved.

great post give me a sec to break it down and make sure i am following what you are saying before i break it down.

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Originally Posted by Adult Insider Dave

When did infinity start and what was before it? Had to start sometime.

there is no start to infinity, it just always existed, i know that sounds insane but that is just it. it did not have to start at anytime it always existed.

look into string theory a little bit, basically part of the theory is that there is multiple dimensions where there could indeed be another one of "you", so does that mean that the other "you" in the other dimension is the past or future of your current self?

MetaMan · 11-17-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I don't have proof Santa doesn't exist. You can't really prove a negative. I am 100% certain that Santa is not real and you are 100% certain too, but with God if you don't have proof then you somehow are required to leave open the possibility. Um..no.

so what do you believe the "god" that you dont believe exists is?

Agent 488 · 11-17-2008, 03:26 PM

squeegee that third eye, wipe away some of the bitterness that the priest classes have burned into you and you might get a taste ......

CaptainHowdy · 11-17-2008, 03:33 PM

Amen to that, I'm a living God...

Poindexterity · 11-17-2008, 03:37 PM

ANYONE, theist or atheist, who is 100% sure
that their belief is the only valid belief is a fanatic.

GatorB · 11-17-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Poindexterity

ANYONE, theist or atheist, who is 100% sure
that their belief is the only valid belief is a fanatic.

I'm 100% sure if I jump off a 100 foot cliff I will fall. So I guess I'm a gravity fanatic.

RedShoe · 11-17-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by polle54

life is too short

Life is too short?

It's the longest fucking thing you'll ever do, shit for brains.

aico · 11-17-2008, 03:49 PM

Fuck God.

AdultInsider Cloner · 11-17-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

What kind of tool only believe in science?

What kind of tool believes in no God?

look around you, do you think that no greater power created the universe? how brilliant and insanely intertwined the entire universe is?

just because you have a belief does not mean you have to belong to an organized religion, i am against organized religion.

you are human, you are worthless, you do not matter in the grand scheme of things you only matter in the fact that you are connected and apart of a bigger picture in which your ego will not even let you understand until you make an attempt to let go of almost everything you were once taught and approach thinking with the fact that you truly know nothing.

that is all.

Firstly, trusting in science or believing in a god are not mutually exclusive and the fact that you are proceeding from the assumption of this false dichotomy sets apocryphal limitations on the construction of your argument.

Secondly, just because a system, i.e. the universe seems too complex for you to comprehend does not mean that is can not be understood and therefore must be relegated to the realm of the supernatural. Science has been slowly and steadily chipping away at this supposedly "irreducibly complex" area of knowledge for a few thousand years now and is ever accelerating.

In fact, there are several plausible theories as to how the universe arose, but to full appreciate them you need to have a decent understanding of several complicated concepts including string theory, particle physics, cosmology and possess a high degree of mathematical skill.

Remember that the mammalian brain (ours) has evolved to both recognize patterns (even when there are none) and quickly categorize our environment. Spirituality and religiosity also evolved to help us fill in the gaps of our knowledge so that the world did not seem so disorderly.... and this "god of the gaps" has existed to this day. We used to think that the sun was carried across the sky by a god in a chariot. Why? Because we needed an explanation and had none based in reality.

Now we have similar, if more complicated, gaps; such as "Where did the universe come from?" But just because we do not have answers to these questions now doesn't mean we will never have them.

But enough about the universe, what about this god that you speak of?

God is defined in many different ways by different people.

Is your god an conscious entity?

Is it natural (created as part of the universe) or supernatural?

If it is supernatural, where did it come from? Where does it reside? What created your god?

You can never really have an "ultimate mover" as something will have had created that as well.

We could really get into this with pages and pages and books and books of writing, but I don't have the time to write it and you probably don't want to read it.

As for your existentialist attitude, I agree, in the grand scheme of the universe we are completely meaningless. If this planet was completely destroyed the universe would carry on just fine without us. However, I'm a pragmatic existentialist so while I believe that our lives are ultimately meaningless to the universe we ARE here, and thus should do the best we can to ensure that the qualities and characteristics that transcend the individual continue to exist. It's our responsibility as humans to further humanity as much as possible during our incredibly short lives.

But only challenging the "god of the gaps" and other "easy and wrong" explanations for the universe around us can we hope to ever understand it.

Ok, I need to get back to work....

Oh and I probably should have proofread this, but whatever =p

Cyandin · 11-17-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyandin

Yes, I am a dork who jokes about being PC.

You however, claim to be open minded, but are all too quick to resort to name-calling; a hallmark of flawed/minimal topic knowledge.

I am not an Atheist by any measure, but I don't think they're idiots either. Some of the smartest people I know are Atheists, and their feelings with regard to religion are simply results of their own analysis of the same factors we all know about life and death.

None of us know for sure what happens when we die, so deciding you think that nothing happens is just as viable as thinking you turn into a fairy and float away to some magical realm. The only thing that's idiotic is to claim another person is idiotic for having an opinion that differs from yours regarding a question that no human being on earth really knows the answer to.

Still waiting for your rebuttal, MetaMan. You were awfully quick to reply before...

DWB · 11-17-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

you are human, you are worthless, you do not matter in the grand scheme of things you only matter in the fact that you are connected and apart of a bigger picture in which your ego will not even let you understand until you make an attempt to let go of almost everything you were once taught and approach thinking with the fact that you truly know nothing.

This much I agree with.

In the grand scheme of things, we ain't shit. Buuuuut... I sure do like money and pussy.

Super Negro · 11-17-2008, 04:03 PM

i dont believe in anything, I dont label people, i dont care

i am alive now and that is what matters, when I die I will learn the rest, if there is any

Ayahuasca is amazing, I have been in 3 Ayahuasca circles and come out completely changed every time

DMT was much better as far as touching the other side, and Ayahuasca only works in the spirtitual sense if you ingest it with that spiritual longing that most DON'T have, even when they think they do

2012 · 11-17-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by polle54

life is too short to set the record straight here and it serves no purpose since any Christian is raised discard anything challenging the the struggling nature of the flawed logic of the bible. Not a bad move as MetaMan here proves.

I am open to any theory but it's very hard for me to understand how a normal human beeing can be stupid enough not to understand the nature of the bible and the power of beeing able to control people like MetaMan.

IF you look at the geography of strong believers you will see that the more poverty and the less education -> the stronger religion. and THAT is actually a fact ;)

You can really drag it out if you're unhappy ( for whatever reason ) ...

Dood · 11-17-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I'm 100% sure if I jump off a 100 foot cliff I will fall. So I guess I'm a gravity fanatic.

Gravity is a theory, not a fact.

If someone tells me there's a pink elephant behind a cloud then it's not up to me to prove them wrong, it's up to them to prove it's true.

Also which God are you guys talking about anyway?

2012 · 11-17-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

If you do not believe in anything you stand for nothing.

Who said you had to stand for something. Ever read lord of the flies ? See the movie ? ... doesn't end well. I guess If I had to stand for something it would be human rights

Cyandin · 11-17-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dood

Gravity is a theory, not a fact.

If someone tells me there's a pink elephant behind a cloud then it's not up to me to prove them wrong, it's up to them to prove it's true.

Also which God are you guys talking about anyway?

Wrong. Gravity is neither a theory nor a fact. It is a property of matter, and it's existence is considered factual due to the consistent ability to observe and replicate it's effects.

Shagbunny · 11-17-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Ayahuasca

God is not some magic man in the sky, God is everything, God is the earth, God is the universe, God is nature, God is even YOU, God is everything together, one big organism, you are not original you are just connected.

stop trying to explain God as one magic man.

great, another know-it-all with the tired and lame "god is everything" crap

grow the fuck up

dav3 · 11-17-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I don't have proof Santa doesn't exist. You can't really prove a negative. I am 100% certain that Santa is not real and you are 100% certain too, but with God if you don't have proof then you somehow are required to leave open the possibility. Um..no.

The discussion isn't as simple and as that.

You see, the issue with Atheists and denouncing a higher power, is that Atheists get their definitions of God from the Christians. This is where the 'magic man in the sky' stuff comes into the discussion. So forget the Christian idea of God and just look at the very basic definition of what 'God' is.

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God is most often conceived of as the supernatural creator and overseer of the universe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

Let's not use the word 'God', and let's pretend that 'God' probably isn't so supernatural after all. Then interchange the idea 'God' with a sort of unified energy that holds the Universe together and makes things happen and also destroys those things. What if gravity, or electricity is the almighty energy that creates and destroys and holds the Universe together?

I don't know, you don't know - which is essentially definition of Agnosticism.

Super Negro · 11-17-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dood

Gravity is a theory, not a fact.

actually, if you really wanna get deep, gravity is just a word

Chauncy · 11-17-2008, 04:25 PM

Pro or Con everyone in this tread proves Marx right

2012 · 11-17-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Negro

actually, if you really wanna get deep, gravity is just a word

and time is an illusion

SilentKnight · 11-17-2008, 04:32 PM

I tend to subscribe to Plato's view of religion as part of 'The Noble Lie'.

"Plato argues that the Lie is necessary in order to keep a stable social structure.

In Plato’s mind, The Noble Lie is a religious lie that’s fed to the masses to keep them under control and happy with their situation in life. Plato did not believe most people were smart enough to look after their own and society’s best interest. The few smart people of the world needed to lead the rest of the flock, Plato said. And The Noble Lie had to continue.

The Noble Lie is knowingly told by an 'elite' to maintain social harmony, particularly the social position of that elite."

Dood · 11-17-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyandin

Wrong. Gravity is neither a theory nor a fact. It is a property of matter, and it's existence is considered factual due to the consistent ability to observe and replicate it's effects.

Which one of the many theories are you going by? Doesn't matter to this thread though, I was just responding to what someone else said.

pocketkangaroo · 11-17-2008, 04:38 PM

I believe what Metaman is trying to say is that God did not create the garden, God is the garden.

Cyandin · 11-17-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dood

Which one of the many theories are you going by? Doesn't matter to this thread though, I was just responding to what someone else said.

I was referring to Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. Though dated, and superseded by gravitation's explanation by Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, it fit for my point. Sorry if I came off as rude.

2012 · 11-17-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I believe what Metaman is trying to say is that God did not create the garden, God is the garden.

Welcome to Gods Garden ...

Ethersync · 11-17-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

If you do not believe in anything you stand for nothing.

All you can add to the conversation is a recycled theist slogan?

Adult Insider Dave · 11-17-2008, 04:59 PM

He disappeared.

MetaMan · 11-17-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyandin

Still waiting for your rebuttal, MetaMan. You were awfully quick to reply before...

heyo ill be back i appreciate your post i been partying a little bit, bookmark this thread and i will gaurantee you i will respond.

Cyandin · 11-17-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

heyo ill be back i appreciate your post i been partying a little bit, bookmark this thread and i will gaurantee you i will respond.

Hehe, enjoy yourself. I wouldn't want a reply wrought from less than %100 focus.

Myst · 11-17-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

i agree with you also. MOSTLY but i believe life is very significant, but no one is more significant then another. but maybe thats i what you are trying to say.

you my friend need to read up on Ayahuasca

http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articl...asca-vision/1/
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dzKp2PeXeWI

and listen to graham hancock speak he is one of the most open and intelligent people i have ever heard speak in my life.

hahahahaha this guy is such a nut. he thinks ghosts, fairies, elves, etc are all real and the only reason we cant see or interact with them is because they are on a different frequency. to tune into that frequency he says, do as the shamans do and take hallucinogenics.

now lets see whats more probable. you took hallucinogenics and are able to see outside your dimensions of time and space and are communicating with something out of this world.. or you are just high as a kite and your brain is not funtioning properly.

this idiot needs a basic course in biology and one more in physics.

i love how his degree is in sociology too.

bhutocracy · 11-17-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3

The discussion isn't as simple and as that.

You see, the issue with Atheists and denouncing a higher power, is that Atheists get their definitions of God from the Christians. This is where the 'magic man in the sky' stuff comes into the discussion. So forget the Christian idea of God and just look at the very basic definition of what 'God' is.

Let's not use the word 'God', and let's pretend that 'God' probably isn't so supernatural after all. Then interchange the idea 'God' with a sort of unified energy that holds the Universe together and makes things happen and also destroys those things. What if gravity, or electricity is the almighty energy that creates and destroys and holds the Universe together?

I don't know, you don't know - which is essentially definition of Agnosticism.

You are wrong, atheists don't get their definition of god from Christians. There were atheists long before Christianity was around. Also I question the point of redefining God out of significance. What if god is electricity? Electromagnetism is just one out of many forces. Would that make you a pantheist with an electromagnetism god, a gravity god, a weak nuclear god and a strong nuclear god? Pointing to a force and calling it god is exactly the same thought process as pre-historic man pointing to lightning and calling it god. At least the pre-historic man would have worshipped the thunder god and probably felt some sense of order and ease in his world that when he performed certain rituals the thunder god would be satisfied and His favour would appear to shine on him afterwards boosting his immune system with the feeling of control over his environment and helping to ensure he lives long enough to produce offspring.
What is the point of having an electricity god today? So that you may thank Him every time you turn your plasma TV on and pray to his greatness for bringing you Geraldo? Of course not, so it's entirely superfluous, an intellectually lazy game. Like a university student saying "What if.. god was like... heheheh... a bong? hehehehheh"
You've got to ask what the benefit in humans assigning a status to a part of physics is.. (Or a chemical process, or a complex system) How and why would it advance or augment our understanding of the universe to call electromagnetism or gravity god rather than plain old "vanilla" electricity or gravity. Only then can you decide if there is an "issue" with atheism as it relates to this particular god of the gaps. It's called atheism, not agravitism or aelectromagnetism. If what you call god doesn't have any actual godlike attributes then is it anything other than empty thought games?

Dood · 11-17-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyandin

Sorry if I came off as rude.

Nope not rude, a debate is about intelligent responses and disagreements

Super Negro · 11-17-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst

hahahahaha this guy is such a nut. he thinks ghosts, fairies, elves, etc are all real and the only reason we cant see or interact with them is because they are on a different frequency. to tune into that frequency he says, do as the shamans do and take hallucinogenics.

now lets see whats more probable. you took hallucinogenics and are able to see outside your dimensions of time and space and are communicating with something out of this world.. or you are just high as a kite and your brain is not funtioning properly.

this idiot needs a basic course in biology and one more in physics.

i love how his degree is in sociology too.

the wonderful part of it ALL is that NONE of us know anything AT ALL as a fact, we just assume it is all accurate

MetaMan · 11-17-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst

hahahahaha this guy is such a nut. he thinks ghosts, fairies, elves, etc are all real and the only reason we cant see or interact with them is because they are on a different frequency. to tune into that frequency he says, do as the shamans do and take hallucinogenics.

now lets see whats more probable. you took hallucinogenics and are able to see outside your dimensions of time and space and are communicating with something out of this world.. or you are just high as a kite and your brain is not funtioning properly.

this idiot needs a basic course in biology and one more in physics.

i love how his degree is in sociology too.

you miss the point you stupid bastard, i am OPEN, i do not dare say one is right or the other, i do believe athiests are wrong. fuck i know all kinds of catholics, dated a muslim, would love to tap a nigga.

dont assume shit i believe or i will knock u the fuck out.

i am going to expierience something new, i am all about alternative thinking. not trying to say it is 100% real. open your mind.

i do not believe is ghosts fairies or elves. man open up your brain. i dare you to sit down with me you live close to me and i am around your age. ill help you nerds get chicks and we can have a real convo and you will change your opinion about me asap.

Super Negro · 11-17-2008, 06:06 PM

Dirty Dane · 11-17-2008, 06:12 PM

Atheism is not about alternative beliefs, but not believe in God. Just because you can't explain the pre-universe scientifically, does not make you an idiot. It makes you human

JD · 11-17-2008, 06:14 PM

I believe there's SOMETHING... but it certainly isn't an invisible bearded man in the sky in white robes that writes down my "sins" in some big ass book that he then punishes me for after I die.

WinstonTriplexcash · 11-17-2008, 06:14 PM

An aetheist's epitaph:

All dressed up
Nowhere to go

MetaMan · 11-17-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Atheism is not about alternative beliefs, but not believe in God. Just because you can't explain the pre-universe scientifically, does not make you an idiot. It makes you human

fakin imho the entire point in being human is to ask questions, find the purpose and ultimately to find the truth to those questions.

if we stop asking questions and stop trying to explain them we may as well degress and become apes.

Super Negro · 11-17-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

fakin imho the entire point in being human is to ask questions, find the purpose and ultimately to find the truth to those questions.

if we stop asking questions and stop trying to explain them we may as well degress and become apes.

on the other side of that coin....questions during your life don't have to centrally focus on god and spirituality

in fact, some more rational people might think that focusing so much time and energy on something we won't ever know is a wasted life/effort

Iscari0t · 11-17-2008, 06:28 PM

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GregE · 11-17-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Insider Dave

When did infinity start and what was before it? Had to start sometime.

The way it was explained to me is that infinity never started, nor will it will ever end and the reason that most of us can't get our heads around that concept is simply because everything in our plane of existence has a beginning and an end.

That's everything including even (according to the big bang theory) the universe itself. Thing is, before this universe there was another one and before that universe there was yet another and before that one....well, you get the idea.

Dirty Dane · 11-17-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

fakin imho the entire point in being human is to ask questions, find the purpose and ultimately to find the truth to those questions.

if we stop asking questions and stop trying to explain them we may as well degress and become apes.

Well, in that context, science is the one seeking answers and evolvement. Religion however, is telling you the "truth" - it already defines your purpose and destination, and it forbids you to question.

RRRED · 11-17-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Life is too short?

It's the longest fucking thing you'll ever do, shit for brains.

Hahaha my favorite post yet!

Ok gotta post and scroll back up to read the rest.

dav3 · 11-17-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy

You are wrong, atheists don't get their definition of god from Christians. There were atheists long before Christianity was around. Also I question the point of redefining God out of significance. What if god is electricity? Electromagnetism is just one out of many forces. Would that make you a pantheist with an electromagnetism god, a gravity god, a weak nuclear god and a strong nuclear god? Pointing to a force and calling it god is exactly the same thought process as pre-historic man pointing to lightning and calling it god. At least the pre-historic man would have worshipped the thunder god and probably felt some sense of order and ease in his world that when he performed certain rituals the thunder god would be satisfied and His favour would appear to shine on him afterwards boosting his immune system with the feeling of control over his environment and helping to ensure he lives long enough to produce offspring.
What is the point of having an electricity god today? So that you may thank Him every time you turn your plasma TV on and pray to his greatness for bringing you Geraldo? Of course not, so it's entirely superfluous, an intellectually lazy game. Like a university student saying "What if.. god was like... heheheh... a bong? hehehehheh"
You've got to ask what the benefit in humans assigning a status to a part of physics is.. (Or a chemical process, or a complex system) How and why would it advance or augment our understanding of the universe to call electromagnetism or gravity god rather than plain old "vanilla" electricity or gravity. Only then can you decide if there is an "issue" with atheism as it relates to this particular god of the gaps. It's called atheism, not agravitism or aelectromagnetism. If what you call god doesn't have any actual godlike attributes then is it anything other than empty thought games?

I'm not trying to call anything a god of *. You are missing the point with that. What the goal is, is to possibly answer questions of what natural forces can do the work of God. By a modern basic definition, God is the creator of everything in the Universe. So the only godlike attribute we should discuss, is creation.

The creation of the Universe has quite a few different theories and it is all but impossible to know which one, if any, is correct. So, we have to look for patterns in observable creation and try to build from that.

Gravity creates stars in nebula clouds and planets from debris rings in the cosmos. Electricity sparks simple life in primordial soup experiments. Sure, gravity and electromagnetism are just natural forces, but they are creative forces that produce can life.

Then again, the whole Universe could be inside of some alien's SimUniverse game, and no we aren't going to call him the 'God of Nintendo'.

We can never be too sure about the biiiig picture. But we can try to whittle away at the unknown with repeating patterns in enviroments that are known.

dav3 · 11-17-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Well, in that context, science is the one seeking answers and evolvement. Religion however, is telling you the "truth" - it already defines your purpose and destination, and it forbids you to question.

"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." - Andre Gide

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Super Negro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 215	i dont believe in anything, I dont label people, i dont care i am alive now and that is what matters, when I die I will learn the rest, if there is any Ayahuasca is amazing, I have been in 3 Ayahuasca circles and come out completely changed every time DMT was much better as far as touching the other side, and Ayahuasca only works in the spirtitual sense if you ingest it with that spiritual longing that most DON'T have, even when they think they do

11-17-2008, 04:32 PM	#75
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	I tend to subscribe to Plato's view of religion as part of 'The Noble Lie'. "Plato argues that the Lie is necessary in order to keep a stable social structure. In Plato’s mind, The Noble Lie is a religious lie that’s fed to the masses to keep them under control and happy with their situation in life. Plato did not believe most people were smart enough to look after their own and society’s best interest. The few smart people of the world needed to lead the rest of the flock, Plato said. And The Noble Lie had to continue. The Noble Lie is knowingly told by an 'elite' to maintain social harmony, particularly the social position of that elite."

11-17-2008, 04:38 PM	#77
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I believe what Metaman is trying to say is that God did not create the garden, God is the garden.

11-17-2008, 06:06 PM	#89
Super Negro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 215

11-17-2008, 06:12 PM	#90
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Atheism is not about alternative beliefs, but not believe in God. Just because you can't explain the pre-universe scientifically, does not make you an idiot. It makes you human

11-17-2008, 06:14 PM	#91
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	I believe there's SOMETHING... but it certainly isn't an invisible bearded man in the sky in white robes that writes down my "sins" in some big ass book that he then punishes me for after I die.

11-17-2008, 06:14 PM	#92
WinstonTriplexcash Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,192	An aetheist's epitaph: All dressed up Nowhere to go