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Paul Markham · 01-09-2009, 02:09 AM

I'm not looking for someone to lay out my ideas, I'm looking for a designer to design a site that is different.

So hit me up on ICQ and yes you can leave a message here as well.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-09-2009, 02:51 AM

How ya doin Paul

Paul Markham · 01-09-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

How ya doin Paul

Doing well thank you.

Please hit me up on ICQ and we can chat about our new site.

cardinalvices · 01-09-2009, 04:09 AM

I like the challenge, we can easily step away from traditional design, and we have an entire mainstream department to help us with it. Take a look at this www.trashstars.com and if you like what you see, please hit me up Paul.
ICQ: 435412482
AIM: CardinalVices
Yahoo: cardinalvices
MSN: [email protected]

tranza · 01-09-2009, 05:35 AM

Good luck Paul! ;)

JamesK · 01-09-2009, 05:37 AM

check out www.nastygraphix.net

DamageX · 01-09-2009, 05:39 AM

Hey Paul, you have my ICQ, hit me up and let's discuss your needs. I might know a thing or two about converting tours.

Paul Markham · 01-09-2009, 05:42 AM

I'm back from lunch and on ICQ.

Zuzana Designs · 01-09-2009, 06:29 AM

If you are still looking I can help Paul ..

mBerk · 01-09-2009, 06:51 AM

new tours style - i just love to experiment in design

Hamlet · 01-09-2009, 01:58 PM

Hi Paul

Please take a look at my portfolio at www.visualecstasy.com

Thank you,
Jonathan

Deej · 01-09-2009, 02:17 PM

http://www.lumpyimages.com/newport/

Hit me up Paul... I can make some flashy nifty tours that WILL convert

Ethersync · 01-09-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

How ya doin Paul

Wow, Alien is back

nAtuRaLbEautY · 01-09-2009, 02:47 PM

Hi Paul,

Still looking for one? Hitting you up now.

Paul Markham · 01-09-2009, 09:40 PM

Anyone who does not understand "Hit me up on ICQ" need not apply.

213 327 873 for those who missed it.

Blingbaby · 01-09-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Wow, Alien is back

I saw the spacecraft landing.. well sorta..

Paul Markham · 01-10-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Wow, Alien is back

He never left.

Seriously I don't know why some of you guys have it in for him. If he's wrong in what he says those who know what to do won't be effected. Today those who don't know what to do will not last long anyway.

Paul Markham · 01-11-2009, 04:28 AM

Still looking for a designer.

Klen · 01-11-2009, 04:30 AM

Ha ha i know it,since it is word "inventive"in title alienq will first reply.

DamageX · 01-11-2009, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Still looking for a designer.

I shot you a few ideas on ICQ. Feel free to get back to me when you wanna brainstorm around this more.

Paul Markham · 01-11-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

I shot you a few ideas on ICQ. Feel free to get back to me when you wanna brainstorm around this more.

Thanks, yes I got the message.
Let's talk tomorrow, I'm in the office all day.

Paul Markham · 01-12-2009, 05:12 AM

Why is it when you ask designers for a design they ask you what you want?

Design means you can think and come up with ideas yourself, not just layout other peoples ideas. That's called a layout artist.

Seriously most of the people I have had contact me have come up with very little invention and even less ideas. So far no one has come up with a proposal or a price, they must all be busy as hell if they don't want the job.

OK a couple have been impressive.

Blingbaby · 01-12-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Why is it when you ask designers for a design they ask you what you want?

Design means you can think and come up with ideas yourself, not just layout other peoples ideas. That's called a layout artist.

Seriously most of the people I have had contact me have come up with very little invention and even less ideas. So far no one has come up with a proposal or a price, they must all be busy as hell if they don't want the job.

OK a couple have been impressive.

Because what you think of as a *designer* is really more of a * graphics layout artist*. It seems that you are really looking for a marketing specialist which is not really a designer at all and doesn't even require art skills necessarily. This class tends to be quite a bit more expensive than the usual banner, tour *designer* which again is just a Photoshop, Html layout designer. Perhaps you should be more specific in what you are looking for and explore the financial burden of what you are expecting. Talking on the phone for hours or chatting on icq does not pay my bills. You can't possibly expect to have a graphics guy develop your business strategy. All due respect, but that's YOUR job, unless you specifically open your wallet to said job..

Paul Markham · 01-12-2009, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Blingbaby

Because what you think of as a *designer* is really more of a * graphics layout artist*. It seems that you are really looking for a marketing specialist which is not really a designer at all and doesn't even require art skills necessarily. This class tends to be quite a bit more expensive than the usual banner, tour *designer* which again is just a Photoshop, Html layout designer. Perhaps you should be more specific in what you are looking for and explore the financial burden of what you are expecting. Talking on the phone for hours or chatting on icq does not pay my bills. You can't possibly expect to have a graphics guy develop your business strategy. All due respect, but that's YOUR job, unless you specifically open your wallet to said job..

Asking a designer to come up with something a bit different and not the same as every other site is now a "business strategy"

Not in my book it's not.

StaceyJo · 01-12-2009, 06:28 AM

Good luck on searching Paul.

01-12-2009, 07:25 AM

i will icq you

sexuallyhealed · 01-12-2009, 08:13 AM

Paul Markham · 01-12-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Altwebdesign

i will icq you

I'm at home tonight and relaxing, not sure why but I feel like shit again. Got a sore throat and head ache. But I can give you the info I have put together.

All I'm looking for is a designer who can think for himself and not in the usual boxes. Anyone who thinks I need a business plan is not thinking right.

Deej · 01-12-2009, 11:25 AM

Designers ask you what you want because thats their first step in design.

If you dont have ANY specs... just say so... It WILL cost more though for a designer to do all the creative brainstorming for you.

Sure a designer could slap up a converting design.... but you might think it looks hideous...

So - any insight to deflect an unhappy ending is totally necessary.

Leave a designer to do it on their own and you may or may not like it... Lets hope it at very least converts... if so then you shouldnt care much about preferencial(is that even a word?) looks.

Id be more than happy to just take some content from you... make it intriguing... easy to navigate... content explosive... throw in some flash movies... keep it simple but still awesome.

It will cost more than taking ideas from your head and translating it into pixels... but not too much.

Paul Markham · 01-13-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Designers ask you what you want because thats their first step in design.

If you dont have ANY specs... just say so... It WILL cost more though for a designer to do all the creative brainstorming for you.

Sure a designer could slap up a converting design.... but you might think it looks hideous...

So - any insight to deflect an unhappy ending is totally necessary.

Leave a designer to do it on their own and you may or may not like it... Lets hope it at very least converts... if so then you shouldnt care much about preferencial(is that even a word?) looks.

Id be more than happy to just take some content from you... make it intriguing... easy to navigate... content explosive... throw in some flash movies... keep it simple but still awesome.

It will cost more than taking ideas from your head and translating it into pixels... but not too much.

I have all the info and instructions needed to make this site design, it's not a normal paysite so don't want a normal paysite design.

It's funny and shows how professional some people are. If someone came to me and asked for a range of scenes for a site, so long as it's a niche I was familiar with, I would give lots of ideas, formulas and prices. Different scenarios, build ups, etc.

I have given designers the outline of the site, what it will sell and told them to come up with a design that fits this type of site. So far not had 1 solid proposal.

Giving me a list of paysite tours you have done in the past is pointless and shows a lot more about how you handle a prospective client than anything. But that is all most designers have done.

Broda · 01-13-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I have all the info and instructions needed to make this site design, it's not a normal paysite so don't want a normal paysite design.

It's funny and shows how professional some people are. If someone came to me and asked for a range of scenes for a site, so long as it's a niche I was familiar with, I would give lots of ideas, formulas and prices. Different scenarios, build ups, etc.

I have given designers the outline of the site, what it will sell and told them to come up with a design that fits this type of site. So far not had 1 solid proposal.

Giving me a list of paysite tours you have done in the past is pointless and shows a lot more about how you handle a prospective client than anything. But that is all most designers have done.

I'd dare say that no one with real talent is going to bother showing you or creating any mockups for you until a hefty retainer is paid. From how I'm reading what you're saying, there is a chance that you might dissaprove of whatever is presented to you. Time wasted is money lost.
In fact, I have a feeling that you're on a "budget" here. Personally, I wouldn't touch your proposal unless it has a >$3k budget, I get 50% down no questions asked, and I keep the retainer if you haven't approved at least the 2nd proposal.
I prefer clients who tell me what they want, what they need, then we create it and deliver it. Quick and painless. OR give us free hands to come up with something, no discussion.
So, maybe that's why your response rate is low

Paul Markham · 01-14-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Broda

I'd dare say that no one with real talent is going to bother showing you or creating any mockups for you until a hefty retainer is paid. From how I'm reading what you're saying, there is a chance that you might dissaprove of whatever is presented to you. Time wasted is money lost.
In fact, I have a feeling that you're on a "budget" here. Personally, I wouldn't touch your proposal unless it has a >$3k budget, I get 50% down no questions asked, and I keep the retainer if you haven't approved at least the 2nd proposal.
I prefer clients who tell me what they want, what they need, then we create it and deliver it. Quick and painless. OR give us free hands to come up with something, no discussion.
So, maybe that's why your response rate is low

$1,500 down no questions asked for someone who won't tell you what they plan. And you keep the retainer if you produce something your client does not like. Guess you have a lot of clients. Good luck to you, I need to know and like what I'm getting before I spend money.

What I need will take a designer about 20 to 30 minute to map out. OK maybe an hour, it's proof he can think outside the "paysite, TGP" box.

Paul Markham · 01-14-2009, 01:47 AM

OK I have found a designer with ideas that are right and the job has been awarded.

He did come up with something I liked before I paid him any money and he is confident he can finish it to my satisfaction so does not require money up front. Some designers, no names, must be very doubtful of their abilities. Or maybe it says something about their clients.

This guy does not need to promote a submitter in his sig to make money either. LOL

DamageX · 01-14-2009, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This guy does not need to promote a submitter in his sig to make money either. LOL

Maybe he doesn't own one?

Broda · 01-14-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

$1,500 down no questions asked for someone who won't tell you what they plan. And you keep the retainer if you produce something your client does not like. Guess you have a lot of clients. Good luck to you, I need to know and like what I'm getting before I spend money.

What I need will take a designer about 20 to 30 minute to map out. OK maybe an hour, it's proof he can think outside the "paysite, TGP" box.

Heh. I was iterating over the stupidity in your proposed task. My price examples were in no way indicative of what my clients pay, merely a result of reading through your childish/amateurish approach to getting someone to build you something wicked for very little.

And yes, thank you, I have plenty of clients. Who know what they want and what they need.

So good luck to you too LOL

Broda · 01-14-2009, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This guy does not need to promote a submitter in his sig to make money either. LOL

Let's hope he isn't promoting a crappy "sponsor" program there either. Such as yours.

Broda · 01-14-2009, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Some designers, no names, must be very doubtful of their abilities. Or maybe it says something about their clients.

ROFLMAO

Man, you kill me.

To be honest, I *would* be doubtful of myself if I had to resort to taking you as a client.

Paul Markham · 01-14-2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Broda

Heh. I was iterating over the stupidity in your proposed task. My price examples were in no way indicative of what my clients pay, merely a result of reading through your childish/amateurish approach to getting someone to build you something wicked for very little.

And yes, thank you, I have plenty of clients. Who know what they want and what they need.

So good luck to you too LOL

You are truly clueless. You have no idea of the task I am setting. Totally fucking clueless. All you're doing is making up your mind with the tiny piece of information I'm giving here. I am asking people to contact me for the real info.

OK most are just paysite, banner and TGP layout artists. I accept that. But at least they could say this is not their thing. What most have done is given me links to a portfolio of sites that are clearly not suitable and a price. Plus told me how much they want up front.

So now I will tell you what this site is about.

It's a site where members will learn how to shoot porn, what to shoot, where to shoot, why shoot and how to find, select, direct models. Including how to cut out the ones who are not suitable. Yes it will be from my perspective and they learn the benefits of taking the information and using it their way.

It will need a bit of eye catching appeal and then a lot of information. If you think that's too hard you obviously don't have a lot of talent. If you think you need 50% up front to come up with some ideas then you really are clueless and talentless. And have no confidence in yourself.

Now you know what I want you can see how simple it is to do. But I can't do it with a paysite or TGP design.

And seriously if you were a designer of any note you would have links to samples of your work. Not to a submitter to earn a few cents from. And everyone knows how shitty my site is.

Paul Markham · 01-14-2009, 03:01 AM

And any one who thinks he should get $1500 to show a few designs, that may or may not be acceptable, and without proving he has an idea of what the job needs had best keep promoting a submitter and not put links to his work in his signature.

Broda · 01-14-2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You are truly clueless. You have no idea of the task I am setting. Totally fucking clueless. All you're doing is making up your mind with the tiny piece of information I'm giving here. I am asking people to contact me for the real info.

OK most are just paysite, banner and TGP layout artists. I accept that. But at least they could say this is not their thing. What most have done is given me links to a portfolio of sites that are clearly not suitable and a price. Plus told me how much they want up front.

So now I will tell you what this site is about.

It's a site where members will learn how to shoot porn, what to shoot, where to shoot, why shoot and how to find, select, direct models. Including how to cut out the ones who are not suitable. Yes it will be from my perspective and they learn the benefits of taking the information and using it their way.

It will need a bit of eye catching appeal and then a lot of information. If you think that's too hard you obviously don't have a lot of talent. If you think you need 50% up front to come up with some ideas then you really are clueless and talentless. And have no confidence in yourself.

Now you know what I want you can see how simple it is to do. But I can't do it with a paysite or TGP design.

And seriously if you were a designer of any note you would have links to samples of your work. Not to a submitter to earn a few cents from. And everyone knows how shitty my site is.

Right. I see the "simplicity" of the concept. You should have mentioned that from the beginning. It's not exactly engenious, nothing anyone would have stolen from you had you cared to include that piece of info from the start. From your original layout of the "masterplan" I'd have had to be desperate to accept less than a massive retainer. From the looks of it now, I wouldn't touch it with a 10" pole.

And, mr keyboard warrior. We do a *shitload* of designs. So now please, feel free to spend time pondering on why I have a submitter in my sig from which I only make a "few cents", and not a link to design services.

Paul Markham · 01-14-2009, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Broda

Right. I see the "simplicity" of the concept. You should have mentioned that from the beginning. It's not exactly engenious, nothing anyone would have stolen from you had you cared to include that piece of info from the start. From your original layout of the "masterplan" I'd have had to be desperate to accept less than a massive retainer. From the looks of it now, I wouldn't touch it with a 10" pole.

And, mr keyboard warrior. We do a *shitload* of designs. So now please, feel free to spend time pondering on why I have a submitter in my sig from which I only make a "few cents", and not a link to design services.

Because you earn more from the links in your signature than the design work is the only reason I can think of.

Maybe I should of told people from the start what I wanted, it would of stopped people like you jumping to the WRONG conclusions. What I thought was it better to discuss it on ICQ, so I was wrong. I got you instead. Good bye.

Broda · 01-14-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Because you earn more from the links in your signature than the design work is the only reason I can think of.

Maybe I should of told people from the start what I wanted, it would of stopped people like you jumping to the WRONG conclusions. What I thought was it better to discuss it on ICQ, so I was wrong. I got you instead. Good bye.

Hehe. You really *are* stupid. I knew I had you pegged from the get go.

sexuallyhealed · 01-14-2009, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If you think you need 50% up front to come up with some ideas then you really are clueless and talentless. And have no confidence in yourself.

And why should anyone spend their time coming up with ideas for you for free unless they're hard up for work?

01-09-2009, 02:09 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Designers who can do inventive tours spam me. I'm not looking for someone to lay out my ideas, I'm looking for a designer to design a site that is different. So hit me up on ICQ and yes you can leave a message here as well. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-09-2009, 02:51 AM	#2
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01-09-2009, 04:09 AM	#4
cardinalvices Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,084	I like the challenge, we can easily step away from traditional design, and we have an entire mainstream department to help us with it. Take a look at this www.trashstars.com and if you like what you see, please hit me up Paul. ICQ: 435412482 AIM: CardinalVices Yahoo: cardinalvices MSN: [email protected] __________________ Cardinal Vices Studio - your one stop shop for webdesign! Paysites \| Consulting \| Tube sites \| TGPs \| Galleries/Banner ads \| Flash peel ads Start your own cam site - Get Live Cam Site Solution

01-09-2009, 05:35 AM	#5
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Good luck Paul! ;) __________________ I'm just a newbie.

01-09-2009, 05:37 AM	#6
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01-09-2009, 05:39 AM	#7
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	Hey Paul, you have my ICQ, hit me up and let's discuss your needs. I might know a thing or two about converting tours. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

01-09-2009, 05:42 AM	#8
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	I'm back from lunch and on ICQ. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-09-2009, 06:29 AM	#9
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01-09-2009, 06:51 AM	#10
mBerk Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 168	new tours style - i just love to experiment in design rather standart sites i'v made last time: http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/...ing/index.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/...ting/tour.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/...ting/join.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/beachspy/index.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/beachspy/tour.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/beachspy/join.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/...spy/index.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/toiletspy/tour.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/toiletspy/join.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/zenra/index.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/zenra/tour.html http://www.blogothemes.com/work/pay/zenra/join.html but i'd love to try something new

01-09-2009, 01:58 PM	#11
Hamlet Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 702	Hi Paul Please take a look at my portfolio at www.visualecstasy.com Thank you, Jonathan __________________

01-09-2009, 02:17 PM	#12
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	http://www.lumpyimages.com/newport/ Hit me up Paul... I can make some flashy nifty tours that WILL convert __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

01-09-2009, 02:47 PM	#14
nAtuRaLbEautY Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,107	Hi Paul, Still looking for one? Hitting you up now. __________________ Prime Outsourcing│offshore solutions│manual labor│staff leasing│full time employees starting at $695.00/month=managed and dedicated \| icq: 309570461 \| live chat

01-09-2009, 09:40 PM	#15
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Anyone who does not understand "Hit me up on ICQ" need not apply. 213 327 873 for those who missed it. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-11-2009, 04:28 AM	#18
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Still looking for a designer. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-11-2009, 04:30 AM	#19
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Ha ha i know it,since it is word "inventive"in title alienq will first reply.

01-12-2009, 05:12 AM	#22
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Why is it when you ask designers for a design they ask you what you want? Design means you can think and come up with ideas yourself, not just layout other peoples ideas. That's called a layout artist. Seriously most of the people I have had contact me have come up with very little invention and even less ideas. So far no one has come up with a proposal or a price, they must all be busy as hell if they don't want the job. OK a couple have been impressive. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-12-2009, 06:28 AM	#25
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01-12-2009, 07:25 AM	#26
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01-12-2009, 11:25 AM	#29
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	Designers ask you what you want because thats their first step in design. If you dont have ANY specs... just say so... It WILL cost more though for a designer to do all the creative brainstorming for you. Sure a designer could slap up a converting design.... but you might think it looks hideous... So - any insight to deflect an unhappy ending is totally necessary. Leave a designer to do it on their own and you may or may not like it... Lets hope it at very least converts... if so then you shouldnt care much about preferencial(is that even a word?) looks. Id be more than happy to just take some content from you... make it intriguing... easy to navigate... content explosive... throw in some flash movies... keep it simple but still awesome. It will cost more than taking ideas from your head and translating it into pixels... but not too much. __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

01-14-2009, 01:47 AM	#33
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	OK I have found a designer with ideas that are right and the job has been awarded. He did come up with something I liked before I paid him any money and he is confident he can finish it to my satisfaction so does not require money up front. Some designers, no names, must be very doubtful of their abilities. Or maybe it says something about their clients. This guy does not need to promote a submitter in his sig to make money either. LOL __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70 Last edited by Paul Markham; 01-14-2009 at 01:49 AM..

01-14-2009, 03:01 AM	#39
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	And any one who thinks he should get $1500 to show a few designs, that may or may not be acceptable, and without proving he has an idea of what the job needs had best keep promoting a submitter and not put links to his work in his signature. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70