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Old 04-07-2009, 10:03 AM   #1
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Exploitedmoms.com entire member's area on EMPflix.com

Now I know not to bother promoting exploitedmoms.com... no reason to sell something given away for free!
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:10 AM   #2
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Holy fuck another thread linking to this tube.

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holy fuck another thread linking to this tube.

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Holy fuck another thread linking to this tube.

You fucking morons.
Yes, because surfers are unable to find tubes like this ranking all over top keyword searches in Google these days.
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that's a hell of tube site.

anybody needing some enforcement should contact Paul Berra of http://Berra.org
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Huggles created the empflix thread yesterday also
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:12 PM   #14
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anybody needing some enforcement should contact Paul Berra of http://Berra.org


I wonder if the exploitedmoms.com people have any clue their entire member's area is online?
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Google's algorithm sure loves these "full content" Tube sites, 1 year old site, PR4 and skyrocketing traffic

the traditional affiliate site model is getting less google love all the time and these sites with full siterips and all kinds of "user uploaded" content are starting to rank everywhere high up in the serps..... there is no way surfers can miss them if they know how to search google
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Lol @ Empflix. As far as stealing content goes, they're so blatant, it's ridiculous.
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Thats fucked up. Tons of FuckYouCash stuff as well. And they have a link where you can download the videos.

This is bullshit.
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Lol @ Empflix. As far as stealing content goes, they're so blatant, it's ridiculous.
and the thing is, when you look at their growth and traffic, the surfers obviously can tell the difference between the tube sites..... and the ones that give them the most stolen content are the ones that "win"

so those webmasters that are starting sponsor hosted "tubes" realize that they are not even in the same game, maybe they can hope to play the old "fake tgp" game where you will get a little bit of traffic and bounce them around a bit and send them off to a sponsor asap and never see them again anyways, but the game has changed to where Google is not going to be a big help as time goes on either, and the surfers will largely end up at a dozen or so big players that give them exactly what they are looking for that they type in in the search box, and give it to them in half hour videos instantly and free........ even the big tubes that don't do as good a job of delivering that, will have to battle to keep their traffic from the tubes that do the best job of giving the most away
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Google's algorithm sure loves these "full content" Tube sites, 1 year old site, PR4 and skyrocketing traffic

the traditional affiliate site model is getting less google love all the time and these sites with full siterips and all kinds of "user uploaded" content are starting to rank everywhere high up in the serps..... there is no way surfers can miss them if they know how to search google
a search for "anal whore" shows that a good 15 of the first 20 results are illegal tube sites. a few years ago they were all mostly affiliates linking to paysites.
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Empflix.com is making money hand over fist with all that stolen content. They actually run a bunch of big tube sites, not just Empflix.com. All their sites contain full length stolen videos. From what I can tell, they're running a multimillion-dollar operation.
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Google's algorithm sure loves these "full content" Tube sites, 1 year old site, PR4 and skyrocketing traffic

the traditional affiliate site model is getting less google love all the time and these sites with full siterips and all kinds of "user uploaded" content are starting to rank everywhere high up in the serps..... there is no way surfers can miss them if they know how to search google



How do we help stop them?
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Some of the videos on that tube at 131 minutes. WTF? This is the entire DVD they give away now?
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Some of the videos on that tube at 131 minutes. WTF? This is the entire DVD they give away now?

Yes.


I see so much sponsor content of programs I promote. What can we do to stop this? This is a good reason why sales aren't what they used to be.
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How do we help stop them?
stop Google? they are giving the public what the public wants in a search engine (think about it from the surfer's view point when they type "porn" or "anal whore" in the Google search box, are they happiest with the search engine sending them to affiliate sites, or are they happiest with the search engine sending them straight to all the free content they could ever desire?
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stop Google? they are giving the public what the public wants in a search engine (think about it from the surfer's view point when they type "porn" or "anal whore" in the Google search box, are they happiest with the search engine sending them to affiliate sites, or are they happiest with the search engine sending them straight to all the free content they could ever desire?


So are you saying I should convert my legal tube to a thief tube?


My tube finally hit 20k per day in traffic, but it has maximum 3 minute movies approved of by sponsors.


So, play by the rules = barely get any traffic

Steal and post all the full length movies = get a ton of traffic and make more money


Honesty sucks in this industry?
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I dunno what's more shocking - how fast that site's gone up in traffic or how shitty that domain is. Seriously, empflix? I could smack keys with my cock and come up with a better one than that, and I bet with a better name they'd be top 500 already with f'in 2 hour clips.

On a more serious note, I'm glad I'm not in adult - I dunno what you all are going to be able to do to stave off this problem but those of you who don't think this is a serious problem to the industry are fooling yourselves. It's not as if the porn in the last year or two is that much "fresher" than 3-5 years ago...in other words, even if you create new content and protect it to death, there's so much practically interchangeable content out there and the tubes seem to get most of it, it'll soon be like trying to charge people for gas when the station down the road is giving it for free...even if it's lower quality or "old", no one's going to care.
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No, I run newpornchicks.com but I think I should copy that layout!
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in other words, even if you create new content and protect it to death, there's so much practically interchangeable content out there and the tubes seem to get most of it, it'll soon be like trying to charge people for gas when the station down the road is giving it for free...even if it's lower quality or "old", no one's going to care.

"...even if it's lower quality or "old", no one's going to care"



I call it "the inflation of porn"


There is so much free porn out there, of every niche, how long before the average scene is worth next to nothing?


Certainly models have been getting cheaper, so I've been told, and some studios are seeing less and less new filming done...
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It staggers me. How can they steal content and charge a membership without getting their asses sued??
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It staggers me. How can they steal content and charge a membership without getting their asses sued??

I don't know???
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stop Google? they are giving the public what the public wants in a search engine (think about it from the surfer's view point when they type "porn" or "anal whore" in the Google search box, are they happiest with the search engine sending them to affiliate sites, or are they happiest with the search engine sending them straight to all the free content they could ever desire?
Yep, Google is just doing their job by providing surfers with what they want. And I'm seeing more and more tubes ranking all over keyword combos these days. Google does have a DMCA page though: google.com/dmca.html

But after you get your stolen content out of the SERPs, the full-length video will simply be uploaded again, and ranking on a different page before you can say "Jiminy Cricket".

I'm not familiar with Exploited Moms, but can say they aren't the only site with a member's area up on Empflix. I just found two other member site rips on there yesterday. Que the next douche to post about how they "remember the same whining over TGP's."
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Looks like they may host with.. It appears they try to hide this in the NL, but the IP is from Barcelona Spain. Many of the connected domains are regged to an Arab and another host in the UK, and the others are all over the damn place..

Not saying these are all related - but this sure seems like a small host, that hosts the same group of redirects, that all end up back to the same place...

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Why would we stop talking about them?
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you want to make them more popular?
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you want to make them more popular?
It wouldn't make them more popular, to do that we would need to some how boost it, move people from one tube to another tube, simply by talking about it.

Even if we sent all the GFY and all adult webmaster forums traffic to this site, all at once, it still wouldn't equal one hours worth of traffic for that tube. They wouldn't even notice us.

I can understand not linking them, even though the .000000001% value GFY passes isn't going to really give them any juice, but a link is a link - and it has some value.

But talking about them, informing people about them, and it being within our Industry, that doesn't equal more popular.
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It wouldn't make them more popular, to do that we would need to some how boost it, move people from one tube to another tube, simply by talking about it.

Even if we sent all the GFY and all adult webmaster forums traffic to this site, all at once, it still wouldn't equal one hours worth of traffic for that tube. They wouldn't even notice us.

I can understand not linking them, even though the .000000001% value GFY passes isn't going to really give them any juice, but a link is a link - and it has some value.

But talking about them, informing people about them, and it being within our Industry, that doesn't equal more popular.
Very good point

What i'm saying is, if you stop talking about them and stop mentioning them it will atleast help.

Seeing that these site obviously get away with it is another problem.

Heck i'm even tempted to start one myself (not going to though) and I bet loads of other people reading these threads all over the internet about sites getting away with it are aswell.
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Old 04-09-2009, 09:02 AM   #47
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So are you saying I should convert my legal tube to a thief tube?


My tube finally hit 20k per day in traffic, but it has maximum 3 minute movies approved of by sponsors.


So, play by the rules = barely get any traffic

Steal and post all the full length movies = get a ton of traffic and make more money


Honesty sucks in this industry?
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Old 04-09-2009, 10:53 AM   #49
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Stop talking about these stealing fucking sites!


FUCK YOU CUNT. Think if you ignore it, it will go away? Suck my fucking cock you piece of shit. Eat my fucking corn filled stool and wash it down with a cup of Sleazydream's asparagus urine.
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What i'm saying is, if you stop talking about them and stop mentioning them it will atleast help.
Seriously. Forget about giving webmasters a heads up when an entire paysite is up for free on a tube. Keeping that information to yourself is much more helpful.

The dangers of some random surfer learning about tubesites on GFY are simply too great.
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