NEW PAYSITE Questions?? Where to sell my VideoClips

[alexsosn]

Hey Friends!

Would it be a stupid decision to jump-in and start my own PAYSITE without having ANY TGP, Gallery, Blogs or anything else first created for other sponsors? I have HUGE knowledge & already submitted Free galleries using Chameleon TGP Submiter & created basic TGPs.

I want to create Local interesting Reality content. I already have Male & 20-30 female models willing to try, Money to pay them & High Def Camera. However, could you please share me with your thoughts/knowledge on how to make money back using my newly created Clips? Does anyone buy these clips or it's better to make like 10 clips and set up my own paysite? Marketing it myself, through free galleries, what else?

Bottomline, if making the movie will cost me 1000$, will it be worth it? means I will need 10 clips or 10,000$ to start up a new PAYSITE for members to start paying for membership, correct?

I will be shooting in Canada, there is a lot of Hot & Wild chicks in here willing to try.

So my main Questions are:

1) without any revenu from sponsors, TGPs, Galleries is it wise to jump in and start a paysite - even though I have a lot of knowledge on how to do it?

2) Please list me where/to whom I can sell my video clips? if not, would it be wise to make 10 clips & start a membership paysite instead of selling them?

3) will it be profitable if it will cost me 1000$/clip to create it & will I have a chance to make money back?

Looking for your feedbacks & comments my friends!

[After Shock Media]

no, no, no.

[DVTimes]

1) without any revenu from sponsors, TGPs, Galleries is it wise to jump in and start a paysite - even though I have a lot of knowledge on how to do it?

Is it going to be an exclusive site or are you buying content?


2) Please list me where/to whom I can sell my video clips? if not, would it be wise to make 10 clips & start a membership paysite instead of selling them?

There are sites such as clips for sale, but if they are good set your site up. How long are the clips? I would sugest at least 30 clips (presumably they are 60 mins long).

Plus add pics too.


3) will it be profitable if it will cost me 1000$/clip to create it & will I have a chance to make money back?

Depends if people want to see it. If its good and its what people want then yes.

At the end of the day if it does not sell, at least you gave it a go.

[alexsosn]

Originally Posted by allanuk

1) without any revenu from sponsors, TGPs, Galleries is it wise to jump in and start a paysite - even though I have a lot of knowledge on how to do it?

Is it going to be an exclusive site or are you buying content?


2) Please list me where/to whom I can sell my video clips? if not, would it be wise to make 10 clips & start a membership paysite instead of selling them?

There are sites such as clips for sale, but if they are good set your site up. How long are the clips? I would sugest at least 30 clips (presumably they are 60 mins long).

Plus add pics too.


3) will it be profitable if it will cost me 1000$/clip to create it & will I have a chance to make money back?

Depends if people want to see it. If its good and its what people want then yes.

At the end of the day if it does not sell, at least you gave it a go.

I was actually asking about not buying but CREATING my own content, by hiring a male and female models, cameraman which will cost me around 1000$ to create Custom Content... reality stuff.. How many clips would I need to start my own PAYSITE? 10?

if not, would it be more wise to start promoting Sponsors first, make some money THEN start my own paysite.... the problem is thought that I am affraid to loose my models to loose interest while waiting. I have everything now ready. except if I could make my money back with a paysite or sell it to Content providers or some other sites?? what do you say?

[After Shock Media]

Problem is it seems transparent that you do not know enough about any of this yet.
10 sets does not make a paysite, then again you could just use the exclusive on the tour and inside. Then also add some non exclusive to the inside to bulk it up, so everyone does not cancel once they find out you have 10 sets only.

Yet assuming you do that and want to be exclusive, how long do you think it would take you to be able to add a new set each week at a minimum (1k per week)?

You could do site, license the content to others, and do clip sales. This spreads it out more and raises your chances of recouping your money.

Though honestly it seems you are just in way over your head at this point and that means you will loose money.

[BV]

[alexsosn]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Problem is it seems transparent that you do not know enough about any of this yet.
10 sets does not make a paysite, then again you could just use the exclusive on the tour and inside. Then also add some non exclusive to the inside to bulk it up, so everyone does not cancel once they find out you have 10 sets only.

Yet assuming you do that and want to be exclusive, how long do you think it would take you to be able to add a new set each week at a minimum (1k per week)?

You could do site, license the content to others, and do clip sales. This spreads it out more and raises your chances of recouping your money.

Though honestly it seems you are just in way over your head at this point and that means you will loose money.

THANK You for this great feedback! I mean say shooting outdoor or with background view in your city will certainly get surfers interested in seeing more of Local girls & places they've been to. Making it Local Reality porn site with great logo attached to free video clips, maybe could generate great interest & membership... don't you think so?

I assume somehow other paysites start this way no? or you believe it will take me more than 10K$ to start... are you talking about 40K, 100K?

Just 1 question though: what means Licence your Content.. how much can it bring and who would be interested... give me example if you know anyone.
and I know this site Clips4Sale... they sell it super cheap for some reason like 5.99/5min video.. it's too cheap don't you think?

[stever]

here is a tip

if you can't send at least 10 signups a day to your paysite from the get go you stand no chance.

my advice:

try finding a sponsor similar to your idea and see if you can send them sales on a regular basis this way you will have the traffic ready to buy your stuff once it's up.

also a site with 10 exclusive scenes is not much of a site. expect to see a shit load of cancels unless you also have some extra interesting stuff in there...

[After Shock Media]

If I had the time I would try to explain it all.
For a reality type site, you are very limiting what you can do with your content. That includes licensing it, using it for clips, etc.

Just to point out in one area that shows how over your head you are let me question your very question.

Super cheap 5.99 for 5 min. (lets double it since many scenes are closer to 10 min and sell for 10.99)
Of that you keep 6.59 and they keep the rest, so you sold your 1 scene for 6.59. No other costs - unless you promote the clip store at a cost.

Now lets say you open your paysite with 10 scenes (same length as above) and you charge say 29.99 per month.
Lets say it was not an affiliate sale so you do not split the money.
After paying your processor you have about 25.50 left. (we shall forget bandwidth etc. or that your first 29 or so sales per year just go to pay for visa fee's.)
That member gets 10 scenes for 25.50 in your pocket.

Thus he paid 2.55 in your pocket per scene, where the clips guy put 6.59 in your pocket per scene.

It gets more complicated, there comes a point when older content has no more production values associated with it, so forth.

[MRock]

Dip your toes in the water first ... don't dive in. Check around, do some research on ALL of the places you can sell your clips without any more overhead than the cost of filming.

Here's a new place for starters: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=899554

[alexsosn]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

If I had the time I would try to explain it all.
For a reality type site, you are very limiting what you can do with your content. That includes licensing it, using it for clips, etc.

Just to point out in one area that shows how over your head you are let me question your very question.

Super cheap 5.99 for 5 min. (lets double it since many scenes are closer to 10 min and sell for 10.99)
Of that you keep 6.59 and they keep the rest, so you sold your 1 scene for 6.59. No other costs - unless you promote the clip store at a cost.

Now lets say you open your paysite with 10 scenes (same length as above) and you charge say 29.99 per month.
Lets say it was not an affiliate sale so you do not split the money.
After paying your processor you have about 25.50 left. (we shall forget bandwidth etc. or that your first 29 or so sales per year just go to pay for visa fee's.)
That member gets 10 scenes for 25.50 in your pocket.

Thus he paid 2.55 in your pocket per scene, where the clips guy put 6.59 in your pocket per scene.

It gets more complicated, there comes a point when older content has no more production values associated with it, so forth.

COOL man Thanks! Exactly what I wanted to hear. I should pay you for Conseling over SKYPE or something.
Do you own a paysite BTW? and again how do you LICENCE content to others? besides selling each clip on Clips4Sale?

Also, how many scenes would I need - if 10 is not enough to start a paysite?

[Jim_Gunn]

Starting a paysite wth little or no traffic will pretty tough, almost impossible really to make money even if you film scenes relatively cheaply. You are asking such a broad question you will never get a satisfactory answer that you can fully appreciate without years of exposure to all the various aspects of the business. And you are trying to do it in the worst possible time, with a worldwide recession and porn freely available everywhere online. Unless you have money to burn, expect there to be an expensive learning curve because even shrewd people who know all the ins and outs have a tough time making original money with content nowadays..

There are indeed several ways to make money with original content- downloadable clip stores, pay sites, third party VOD, licensing the content in bulk to other webmasters, and a DVD release maybe if your content looks good enough. You should read Barefootsies guide to making money with clip stores. Do a search for it, it will help you get some ideas. Let's assume you have ten good scenes already shot and paid for. Ok now, what? It takes money, time and work to attract an audience. Shooting content, getting billing, and putting up a site is almost trivial in the grand scheme of things compared to the sales job ahead of you after that even if your content is good.

PS- Your idea isn't completely original. That is not to say it cannot work, but don't fool yourself into thinking it is so unique. You will be far, far down the line of people who have filmed amateur Canadian models and made porn moves or web sites from those scenes. I did it starting almost fifteen years ago in the "Canadian Beaver Hunt" and "Canadian Stripper Search" VHS & DVD series and there are many other Canadian producers that have filmed local girls for nude photos, porn movies and adult web sites more recently.

[DarkJedi]

Make a tube

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