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Old 10-19-2009, 08:48 AM   #1
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Who runs TNA Flix?

We need to talk, I've sent you 3 DMCA notices and my shit is still on your site. Every other site I send DMCA notices to takes content down, I want my video off your site!
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:18 AM   #2
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whoever it is is stealing my content as well
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Unlike many of the big tubes, xhamster and tnaflix both host out of the Netherlands, so it is probably not very easy to legally do much about it...

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Old 10-19-2009, 10:00 AM   #7
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dig gfy for more info about them, it was here a while ago

most likely you won't get your stuff removed
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tnaflix,empflix,puretna,moviefap,imagefap .. same shit ... sponsored by: ________ (fill in)

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They didn't follow your DMCA. So just sue them.
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Yep, go after their asses hardcore.

First, send the DMCA to the host, if the company did not recognize the host HAS to. Secondly, hit up Google and get them de-listed. You can provide Google proof that it's your content, they are automatically de-listed.
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tnaflix is run by the same guys who run puretna.com, which is a cousin of empornium.us
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Let's see who are sponsors of this illegal site.

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Yep, go after their asses hardcore.

First, send the DMCA to the host, if the company did not recognize the host HAS to. Secondly, hit up Google and get them de-listed. You can provide Google proof that it's your content, they are automatically de-listed.
not all countries are subject to the DMCA.
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http://www.ivir.nl/legislation/intel...therlands.html
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kaktuz is another one that won't pull stolen content from their site without a court order. I believe that owner is in the UK


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kaktuz is another one that won't pull stolen content from their site without a court order. I believe that owner is in the UK


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They have their own copyright laws. DMCA is an American law. There might be a different procedure to get it taken down in the Netherlands, they might not have to follow a DMCA notice.
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Think they are hosted with http://www.leaseweb.com/en/
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Think they are hosted with http://www.leaseweb.com/en/
They got mail a sec ago... thanks.
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Think they are hosted with http://www.leaseweb.com/en/
Isn't http://www.startstream.com/ their hosting provider?
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Isn't http://www.startstream.com/ their hosting provider?
looks to me like euroaccess.nl

12 10ge-v2.core-2.ipv4-mg8.db-ams.euroaccess.nl (85.12.0.18) 120.151 ms 120.250 ms 119.772 ms
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14 77.247.179.176 (77.247.179.176) 137.525 ms 140.478 ms 140.605 ms
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tnaflix is run by the same guys who run puretna.com, which is a cousin of empornium.us
And it is said that the guys running the whole network are the piratebay crew.
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And it is said that the guys running the whole network are the piratebay crew.
the plot thickens...
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looks to me like euroaccess.nl

12 10ge-v2.core-2.ipv4-mg8.db-ams.euroaccess.nl (85.12.0.18) 120.151 ms 120.250 ms 119.772 ms
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14 77.247.179.176 (77.247.179.176) 137.525 ms 140.478 ms 140.605 ms
Are you sure? They have one hell of a site:
http://www.euroaccess.nl/
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and the whole lot supposedly owned by israel based targetpoint. which makes sense considering recent statements from the pirate bay guys that they don't own it anymore ... but who the fuck knows?

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Are you sure? They have one hell of a site:
http://www.euroaccess.nl/
You can run your own traceroute and verify the uplink

If you don't have traceroute on your box, there are plenty of web based traceroute tools.

http://www.net.princeton.edu/traceroute.html

tracing path from www.net.princeton.edu to 77.247.179.176 ...

traceroute to 77.247.179.176 (77.247.179.176), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 gigagate1 (128.112.128.114) 0.493 ms 0.314 ms 0.335 ms
2 vgate1 (128.112.12.22) 0.685 ms 0.352 ms 0.343 ms
3 gi-6-0-226.hse1.phlapa02.paetec.net (209.92.27.33) 2.179 ms 2.244 ms 2.300 ms
4 ge-1-1-0-311.core02.phlapa02.paetec.net (169.130.105.19) 11.371 ms 2.764 ms 2.409 ms
5 * * *
6 * * *
7 as0.core02.asbnva01.paetec.net (169.130.81.233) 6.961 ms 13.845 ms 6.016 ms
8 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.ash1.he.net (206.223.115.37) 19.230 ms 22.577 ms 24.701 ms
9 10gigabitethernet2-1.core1.lon1.he.net (72.52.92.138) 104.224 ms 103.279 ms 98.919 ms
10 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.ams1.he.net (72.52.92.82) 107.055 ms 108.314 ms 110.890 ms
11 Euroaccess.10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.ams1.he.net (216.66.80.66) 111.469 ms 107.406 ms 112.619 ms
12 10ge-v3.core-2.ipv4-mg8.db-ams.euroaccess.nl (85.12.0.34) 107.810 ms 108.698 ms 108.386 ms
13 * * *
14 77.247.179.176 (77.247.179.176) 119.809 ms 120.000 ms 117.970 ms

Done.
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You can run your own traceroute and verify the uplink
I'm illiterate when it comes to these things, I just need some one to point me to the correct target to unleash my wrath to
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I sent a DMCA to leaseweb.com some weeks ago and I never heard anything back from them.....

Does anybody know what is the next step to take ?

Last resort is a court case...don't wanna spend the money
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I sent a DMCA to leaseweb.com some weeks ago and I never heard anything back from them.....

Does anybody know what is the next step to take ?

Last resort is a court case...don't wanna spend the money
Pretty sure they're hosted with euroaccess.nl, not leaseweb.com.

DMCA is an American law, the Netherlands might have a different procedure to follow, I haven't looked into it.
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So I e-mailed euroaccess and got this reply from them:

Hello

We are just the transit provider
This website is running on their own datacenter their own infrastructure
Their own AS number and their own ip block.

Please check the whois info by ripe.net to get the contact info

With regards.
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So I e-mailed euroaccess and got this reply from them:

Hello

We are just the transit provider
This website is running on their own datacenter their own infrastructure
Their own AS number and their own ip block.

Please check the whois info by ripe.net to get the contact info

With regards.
I'll look that up for you, give me a couple minutes
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wouldn;t that be a great thread twister?
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nslookup www.tnaflix.com

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.tnaflix.com
Address: 77.247.179.176

whois 77.247.179.176

OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgID: RIPE
Address: P.O. Box 10096
City: Amsterdam
StateProv:
PostalCode: 1001EB
Country: NL

ReferralServer: whois://whois.ripe.net:43

NetRange: 77.0.0.0 - 77.255.255.255
CIDR: 77.0.0.0/8
NetName: 77-RIPE
NetHandle: NET-77-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: Allocated to RIPE NCC
NameServer: NS-PRI.RIPE.NET
NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET
NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET
NameServer: NS2.LACNIC.NET
NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE
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Comment: the RIPE database at http://www.ripe.net/whois
RegDate: 2006-08-29
Updated: 2009-05-18

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2009-10-20 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
% This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
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% The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf

% Note: This output has been filtered.
% To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.

% Information related to '77.247.179.128 - 77.247.179.191'

inetnum: 77.247.179.128 - 77.247.179.191
netname: NFORCE_ENTERTAINMENT
descr: Customer 192 / Transworld Advertising Corporation
descr: Customer 323 / Bouncetek
descr: Customer 510 / YoPlaza
descr: Customer 519 / Clicktorrent
descr: Customer 536 / Youngtek Solutions Limited
country: NL
admin-c: pt3315-ripe
tech-c: pt3315-ripe
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: MNT-NFORCE
mnt-lower: MNT-NFORCE
mnt-routes: MNT-NFORCE
source: RIPE # Filtered

person: Pieter Taks
address: Brakesteinlaan 4
address: 4706 WC Roosendaal
address: Netherlands
mnt-by: MNT-NFORCE
phone: +31 165 397263
fax-no: +31 165 397761
nic-hdl: PT3315-RIPE
source: RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '77.247.176.0/21AS43350'

route: 77.247.176.0/21
descr: NFOrce Entertainment BV - default route
origin: AS43350
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I found an abuse email also: [email protected]
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:21 PM   #39
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I found an abuse email also: [email protected]
E-mailed them, thanks. Let's see what comes out of it.
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E-mailed them, thanks. Let's see what comes out of it.
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Tnaflix.com owns a multitude of tube sites, including empflix.com and moviefap.com. They're located offshore and just about every aspect of their business is bullet proof. They are making millions from stolen content, so they won't be stopping anytime soon.
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Tnaflix.com owns a multitude of tube sites, including empflix.com and moviefap.com. They're located offshore and just about every aspect of their business is bullet proof. They are making millions from stolen content, so they won't be stopping anytime soon.
But their servers are not offshore, right? I believe there should be a copyright law in Netherlands, they're part of the Western world after all. We just need to find their hosting provider and put some pressure on them.

I have some connections in Netherlands and can even get local lawyers to send some scare letters etc - provided they do not have their own version of DMCA of course, that covers them hosting thieving sites and they do not give a fuck.
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But their servers are not offshore, right? I believe there should be a copyright law in Netherlands, they're part of the Western world after all. We just need to find their hosting provider and put some pressure on them.
It looks like they're hosted in the Netherlands. They seem to be their own host with their own datacenter and their own ip range and ASN.

EuroAccess.nl is one of their upstream transit providers. Looks like they have 3 upstream providers:

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Tnaflix.com owns a multitude of tube sites, including empflix.com and moviefap.com. They're located offshore and just about every aspect of their business is bullet proof. They are making millions from stolen content, so they won't be stopping anytime soon.
I hope for their sake that their bodies are bullet proof (actually not). There are quite a few people who are getting really tired of their shit and I would imagine a few of those people don't like lawyers either. If you take the bread from someones table they are bound to fight back when they start going hungry.
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It looks like they're hosted in the Netherlands. They seem to be their own host with their own datacenter and their own ip range and ASN.

EuroAccess.nl is one of their upstream transit providers. Looks like they have 3 upstream providers:

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That makes things worse... Aside from hiring local lawyers, do not see any other way to influence self-hosted sites.
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That makes things worse... Aside from hiring local lawyers, do not see any other way to influence self-hosted sites.
You could always try their other two upstream providers, but I suspect you'll get the same answer from them as you got from euroaccess.nl
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The Netherlands is a member of pretty much every copyright treaty. I'm sure there's legal ways to get the content taken down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...t_agreeme nts
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You could always try their other two upstream providers, but I suspect you'll get the same answer from them as you got from euroaccess.nl
Yep, they'll all use the same bs excuse.

IIRC they've got a restraining order against their upstream providers in the pirate bay case though, and scambags had to search for connectivity elsewhere. But to make that happen we'll need to have local lawyers on it, I doubt any one of them will disconnect the client just because they've got an abuse e-mail.
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