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A few face-to-face visits could resolve a lot of the big tube issues that plague this industry.
I don't normally condone violence, but when someone steals your shit, and ruins your livelihood... I'm just sayin.... |
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Daniel, Oded [email protected] Daniel, Oded [email protected] or contact Arjan Wijnveen Aalberselanen 7 Woerden Utrecht 3445 TA NL phone: +31620420622 fax: [email protected] VIA whois history.. |
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TNA Flix does not give a flying fuck.
We have tons of vids on there and cant do anything about it.
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how about PureTNA.com - porn torrent site with more than 1 million registered users!
you can download whole site memberships from there and latest updates!
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maybe because this big ass company that can afforded its own data ceneter/IPs etc .. is sharing it IP with http://hottorrent.net/
whois info = Daniel, Oded the address used for tnaflix etc.. also over laps with But oh no they updated the whois info to 3 dif corp names all with the same address.. and there couldn't be anything like any overlap of this corp info that is in any way connected to Daniel, Oded... Dropping a quick email takes 2 sec. its not like the other emails resulted in anything.. may as well kick a few other doors.. |
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sorry http://hottorrent.net/ is a secondary site oned by them.. Startstream.com is the one hosted on the same IP..
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They're hiring programmers:
www . tnaflix.com/job_advert.php maybe someone could get on the "inside"? |
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Kick his ass Sea Bass!
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your registration is valid due to the berne convention but you still must comply with that countries IP LAWS. |
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it just pisses me off when americans expect that their laws should override every other countries laws. the entire send DCMA to the host bullshit that is being argued in this thread is based on that insuferable position. File a takedown notice that is compliant with that countries laws, dumb ass, then and only then would their actions be criminal. |
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What is the alleged offending link?
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pretty much every major torrent site has it basis in organized crime, i am obviously a dumbass as why a nice ontario boy would spend all it's time defending that, eh aaron?
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Has anybody tried to report a site for possible chil*d porn to the police and claiming that the models might be underage - I mean the tube owners does not have age proof ?
Might only work for teen content, but still worth a try ? |
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I love they write different on their pages, to "cover" their ass:
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Links to report them to the police in Netherlands anyone?
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Found a link:
http://www.meldpuntcybercrime.nl Will find some suspiciously young models now and report them.
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I submitted several links for the NL police to review - wouldn't even post them here because they're indeed suspicious, I'd say I'm 70% positive they feature underage models.
Do your own research and submit your complaint too - the more the better, the more chances they'll go ahead and take some actions.
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generalizations don't become anyone. There are tons of torrent sites dedicated to tv shows tvtorrent eztv.it nothing but using torrent like a vcr more than 50% of all torrent traffic is tv shows. if they were organized crime you could get them shut down with rico you moron. fair use rights should be technologically agnostic, i have as much of a right to use torrents as a timeshifting device as my parents had to use a vcr. Just because the US wrote a law that is so out of wack that it is now being used to take way the right of backup from people doesn't mean that every country should have to obey it. canada doesn't have a DMCA abusive law yet, and i am glad of that, the absurd arguement that we have to comply with takedown request especially the person filing the request doesn't agree to be bound by the counter restriction (all legal expenses if it is fair use). |
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Got them finally.
E-mail address [email protected] worked, thanks CYF for finding it out for all of us to use ![]() The damn thing got like 20 pages thinner after our DMCA request was finally processed. I'll report all necessary details in the copyright forum later, meanwhile feel free to hit me up for an advise if you have problems removing your stuff from tnaflix.
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totally ignorant comparison. We have all seen every torrent site has stolen content, i have never seen a porn site with cp.
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that site removes any content that has not aired on tv direct to dvd stuff like bsg the plan are not allowed until they air on tv (and therefore fall under the fair use doctrine of timeshifting) Quote:
it doesn't have to be public domain to be legal. It not stolen period. Quote:
like i keep saying leave the tracker alone leave the seeders alone leave the leachers with a fair use right alone go after the leachers with no fair use right given the fact that 99.5% (according to the US census) have at least 1 tv (95% have two tvs or more) that only .5% of the population. Quote:
It is interesting how you are calling me on doing the exact same thing as the thread starter Gotcha Quote:
So why the fuck do you believe that it ok to take away the fair use right that have ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED every time a new technology is created to allow you take advantage of that right. Quote:
The US law was the last one to make that decision Canada made that ruling years ago The EU is further a head not only making that ruling years before canada, but establish the bases for ACCESS SHIFTING (1 download != 1 lost sale). I have predicted for more than 2 years that US ruling would happen BASED ON THE PREVIOUS RULINGS from CANADA and EU. Now that it finally equal to every where else your trying to argue that those previous ruling disappeared. WTF. |
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Nobody is trying to "take away" fair use, timeshifting for yourself should be legal. The problem arises in the "cloud". The "cloud" is vastly different now and we KNOW the cloud is being abused, yes laws should reflect the fact that the "cloud" had very little impact on the revenue of the copyright material in the "cloud" years ago. Now the "cloud" is having a huge impact on the ability for copyright holders to profit from their material. Quote:
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Where the FUCK is the link to the alleged ripped video?
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Same thing worked for empflix too btw, got a bunch of our videos removed from there.
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you made the arguement that every torrent site has stolen content on it i pointed you to a torrent site that was dedicated to tv shows after they aired only. Where the only purpose was the moving of the viewing time of show from day 1 to day 2 Since moving a show from day 1 to day 2 is the definition of timeshifting... the only way you can argue that meets your definition is to argue that right doesn't exist. Which is the point i was making with the CP reference, it only by reclassifying fair use out of existance that you can claim that EVERY torrent site is filled with stolen content. Quote:
satisfies this standard of noninfringing uses both because respondents have no right to prevent other copyright holders from authorizing such time-shifting for their programs and because the District Court's findings reveal that even the unauthorized home time-shifting of respondents' programs is legitimate fair use http://supreme.justia.com/us/464/417/case.html as for the cablevision case i discussed it quite completely http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...a+cloud&page=4 i quoted from the ruling multiple times and covered all the points you made and some you haven't yet (but suspect you will given your later statements) and all the shows on tv are free right ? everyone gets every channel free ? Quote:
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timeshifting format shifting backup recovery all court established, they could be established because the copyright act specified rules for the creation of new fair uses. Those rules make any of those court established fair use JUST AS VALID AS THE ONES GRANTED EXPLICTLY by the act. Quote:
re read the quote "a new technology is created to allow you take advantage of that right." the new technology is the swarm. Timeshifting using a swarm is superior to the old pvr way because their is no limit on storage space (swarm = infinite storage), it never loses power, misses a show due to user error, never loses the content due to accidental deletion, allows me to jump into a show after it aired for months, etc. Your talking about denying a person who only torrents tv shows that he bought a right to view (by subscribing to the cable stations necessary) the extra benefits of the new technology simple because you don't want to go after the people who didn't buy that right to view. THAT IS EXACTLY what i was talking about. Quote:
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Make sure to send properly formatted DMCA (otherwise they woudn't respond), send it to [email protected] and cc it to [email protected] to let their hoster know their client has some files to remove.
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yet you cant actually quote it.. ok then lets see this LAW that says timeshifting tv shows is fair use, post it , dont post links to other links that you spin more bullshit. If you search a crack dealer without telling him his rights, the case will likely be thrown out , doesnt make selling crack legal. and all the shows on tv are free right ? everyone gets every channel free ? so you believe boiling old ladies in hot oil is legal ![]() ![]() ![]() oh wait you never said that and i never said rico was part of the copyright act.. Quote:
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He is the 310th busiest web site on teh Internets! Do you really think he has time to pay attention to DMCA notices from someone with a site way back in the 40,000's?
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So, where is that fucking link?
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Got a producer account from them today, it works accross their network of sites (tnaflix.com, empflix.com and moviefap.com) - allows to flag content as infringing and it gets immediatly removed (for later review by their administrators, if they confirm removal will stay permanent).
Asking them for a producer account was really a long shot in the dark, I'm actually quite surprised I got it, given their reputation. But now I have to admit that within the current laws, they did their due diligence - they complied with DMCA request, they hooked us up with the producer account, and they've also added our sites to the list of forbidden content. However sad, but within the current legal environment we cannot press for more.
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IF what you were saying was legitimate and the precedent would have to be established with every new technology Tivo /pvr would have had to gone to the supreme court too. The precedent (with the established right of timeshifting) protected all the other technology that came after it. Quote:
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the court case doesn't say that it would be a crime if they had been notified but because they weren't they get off it says that the action was not an infringement. If you want to use your drug analogy, the crack dealer example you gave would be not complying with the appropriate takedown request of the country in question. And fair use arguement would be trying to bust a medical marijuana store for selling weed. Quote:
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the fact is you don't have a right to force people to obey US laws, they don't take precedents over the other countries laws. The subsequent arguements about the legality of timeshifting under US laws don't change that fact. Quote:
you on the other hand have done no such thing. Show me one case where the issue was brought up and a judge actually ruled it doesn't apply. The only convictions you can point to are ones where those key issues are hidden. Quote:
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go thru the previously quoted thread where i discussed this stuff with Nautilus he brought up a laundry list of "failures" that would make swarm illegal while still allowing ruling to be true. I answered every one of them, sometimes multiple times. If you want to make that arguement you need to show a difference that was not covered by the court case, one that is distinct enough to justify a ruling of liability Your next one is most definately not it because Quote:
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That the principle of the legal system, precedents are established you try and extend them to apply in new ways. However once they have been extended they DO apply to all cases. Can i predict the extension no, can i predict the ruling after the extension has happened yes. Judges are bound by those previous rulings. Lawyers are paid to know those rulings. IF the legal system was a crap shoot where any judge could make up a ruling how he feels the world would be chaos. Quote:
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http://thepiratebay.org/legal Now their arrogant attitude was stuck up their own asses, hopefully those skinny farts will suck some Bubba's cock all the while they're in jail. But they were not compliant, while the tubes in question ARE, that's what makes all the difference. They comply with takedown requests, they have producer accounts with the immediate take down option, and they have a no-upload list. What else could be required of a public service under the current DMCAish legal climate worldwide? Not much I guess. Of course we'd want them to be responsible for checking the legality of every uploaded video - but that's not required of them by law and they're not going to do that. They're only required to do their due diligence in assisting the copyright holders (which they did), and thus they're clean until the laws get changed. Aside from patroling their sites daily, there isn't much more that we can do now.
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=258 Seeder IS and infringer because he has no business sharing his copy with others (outside of the usual circle of family and friends). If you want to continue please either bump this old thread or start a new one - do not post in this thread anymore, it is for people who need to actually have some business done.
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