Immigration: Let's say I break into your house... - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Sid70 · 05-26-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cyber

I work in the industry? Same as you, I'd imagine.

I didnt mean any offence

what i meant that being successfull in this biz requires solving puzzles like you just offered

v4 media · 05-26-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You don't get out much, do you really buy the idea we need 20 million fruit pickers?

What's that 7% of your population? Seems about fair. All the shitty jobs that 90% of Americans wont do. The low paid nannies, cleaners, yard work, factories, farming, building, unskilled labor etc.

Do you not think that if all 20 million fucked off, America would be seriously buggered.

brassmonkey · 05-26-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Says the guy that claimed there are more whites on welfare than blacks and Hispanics combined.

I don't have a lot of faith in your ability to read or understand statistics.

i think you should be deported with them

anybody that supports and activity like this is just nuts.

epitome · 05-26-2010, 08:56 AM

Arizona is actually one of the most blue states there are.

You can buy a brand new 2000 SF house for $125K.

You can get state insurance making up to close to $2k a month.

Food stamps can be had as well.

Meanwhile in my state, Maryland, which is labeled a blue state ... the average house is about $250k and you cannot get health insurance or food stamps if you make more than about $400/mo.

What Arizona needs to do is kick its white people off welfare and stop blaming everyone else.

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by v4 media

What's that 7% of your population? Seems about fair. All the shitty jobs that 90% of Americans wont do. The low paid nannies, cleaners, yard work, factories, farming, building, unskilled labor etc.

Do you not think that if all 20 million fucked off, America would be seriously buggered.

No true, I went into a taco bell yesterday and the person that saw me couldn't get someone that spoke english to serve me, that job could have gone to a teenager

jimmy-3-way · 05-26-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Loryn

Immigration: Let's say I break into your house...

What if your house is enormous? Like so big there are rooms you've never been in. What if you just inherited your house from rich relatives?

And this person just wants to live in your shed and eat your garbage and mostly leave you alone, because living in your shed and eating your garbage is better than where they came from?

And they were willing to risk death and kidnapping to live in your shed?

Are you telling me you don't have the simple human compassion to let them live in your shed and eat your garbage? Just because it's YOUR shed?

brassmonkey · 05-26-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Arizona is actually one of the most blue states there are.

You can buy a brand new 2000 SF house for $125K.

You can get state insurance making up to close to $2k a month.

Food stamps can be had as well.

Meanwhile in my state, Maryland, which is labeled a blue state ... the average house is about $250k and you cannot get health insurance or food stamps if you make more than about $400/mo.

What Arizona needs to do is kick its white people off welfare and stop blaming everyone else.

have you ever lived here

you can get stamps making $800 per month i think the cap is like $1100 but you have to be working. and kicking whites off welfare you dont know what their going through.

brassmonkey · 05-26-2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

No true, I went into a taco bell yesterday and the person that saw me couldn't get someone that spoke english to serve me, that job could have gone to a teenager

push for a sanctions law call the sheriff on them.

v4 media · 05-26-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

No true, I went into a taco bell yesterday and the person that saw me couldn't get someone that spoke english to serve me, that job could have gone to a teenager

Yep the problem is most of today's teenagers are lazy fuckers who sponge off their parents. or their parents are like no my child can't work at Tacobell he's going to be a lawyer...

Different country but a good example.. In southern Spain unemployment for the under 25's is about 40% yet when it's the olive harvest they have to bring in immigrants to pick the olives because the lazy teenage Spanish wont do it.

When a poor country borders a rich one you will always have this problem.. 100's of Africans die every year trying to get to Spain, when they get here they are treated like shit, yet they still come.

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

No true, I went into a taco bell yesterday and the person that saw me couldn't get someone that spoke english to serve me, that job could have gone to a teenager

Interesting. So, let's say they shitcan one of those people and hire a teenager. A white teenager from Denmark that doesn't speak english. What then? Also, are you suggesting that Taco Bell hires illegal aliens, or do you just hate people that don't cater to your every need?

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by v4 media

Yep the problem is most of today's teenagers are lazy fuckers who sponge off their parents. or their parents are like no my child can't work at Tacobell he's going to be a lawyer...

Different country but a good example.. In southern Spain unemployment for the under 25's is about 40% yet when it's the olive harvest they have to bring in immigrants to pick the olives because the lazy teenage Spanish wont do it.

When a poor country borders a rich one you will always have this problem.. 100's of Africans die every year trying to get to Spain, when they get here they are treated like shit, yet they still come.

People are lazy, not just teenagers, I raised a daughter on my own and she's a great kid, in the Navy, going to medical school when she gets out

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Interesting. So, let's say they shitcan one of those people and hire a teenager. A white teenager from Denmark that doesn't speak english. What then? Also, are you suggesting that Taco Bell hires illegal aliens, or do you just hate people that don't cater to your every need?

You just assumed they spoke spanish, I never said that. I don't hate anyone, well except Obama, he's a fucking tool. It's taco bell, not the UN, it was off I 5, they better speak english. I also didn't say anything about their legal status, just that they couldn't speak the language thats suppose to be the official language of the US, if they are here on a Visa, they need to learn the laguage.

I don't care where they come from, if they are here working, learn the language, if I were going to work in another country, I'll learn the language

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I don't care where they come from, if they are here working, learn the language, if I were going to work in another country, I'll learn the language

And if you go deaf next year, will you be complaining because no one at Taco Bell knows sign language?

Agent 488 · 05-26-2010, 10:01 AM

let's say i was having buttsex with yo mouth.

sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 10:09 AM

If you enter Mexico illegally, they will jail you, and deport you.

END OF STORY.

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cgiGeek · 05-26-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Loryn

With that ideology everyone in Africa and Europe owes their land to some other group of people throughout history, because at one point they were living on "someone else's land" too, you don't believe in evolution do you...

I believe in evolution, you my friend is the one that wants things to stay as they are just because you are on the shiny side.
For the record I am not pro illegal immigration, I am up for merits, you get what you earn, which many people have forgotten.

Dirty Lord · 05-26-2010, 10:25 AM

hahahaaha

funnie

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

And if you go deaf next year, will you be complaining because no one at Taco Bell knows sign language?

I grew up with a step dad that was legally deaf and read lips, if I go deaf, I'll learn that as well

In Japan, I ordered a Big Mac in Yokohama, they brought me out a menu to point to, so without having the know the language, I got my Big Mac. And replied Domo

Doubt I will go deaf, I was a sonar tech for the Navy, my hearing is better than people half my age

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I grew up with a step dad that was legally deaf and read lips, if I go deaf, I'll learn that as well

In Japan, I ordered a Big Mac in Yokohama, they brought me out a menu to point to, so without having the know the language, I got my Big Mac. And replied Domo

Doubt I will go deaf, I was a sonar tech for the Navy, my hearing is better than people half my age

It's just hypothetical. I'm not actually questioning your hearing.
But would you expect Taco Bell and every other retailer to train their employees in sign language? It doesn't sound like it. Sounds to me like you would make-do, like your Japan reference. Just like I have done many times in Germany, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, etc... and times when I've lost my voice altogether.

The world is diverse. The "speak English or get out" rhetoric is old and tired.

cgiGeek · 05-26-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

No true, I went into a taco bell yesterday and the person that saw me couldn't get someone that spoke english to serve me, that job could have gone to a teenager

we actually dont want you on our taco bells... fuck off and leave

TheDoc · 05-26-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Says the guy that claimed there are more whites on welfare than blacks and Hispanics combined.

I don't have a lot of faith in your ability to read or understand statistics.

Then I don't have a lot of faith in your ability to understand basic 3rd grade math.

Why · 05-26-2010, 10:47 AM

how soon we forget that almost all of our ancestors arrived here from somewhere.

im 100% for legal immigration, but if you cant follow the rules and pay your taxes GTFO!

i have legally immigrated to, lived and worked in a foreign country, its not so bad.

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

It's just hypothetical. I'm not actually questioning your hearing.
But would you expect Taco Bell and every other retailer to train their employees in sign language? It doesn't sound like it. Sounds to me like you would make-do, like your Japan reference. Just like I have done many times in Germany, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, etc... and times when I've lost my voice altogether.

The world is diverse. The "speak English or get out" rhetoric is old and tired.

I agree the world is diverse, but if someone wants citizenship in a new country is it too much to ask for them to learn the language of the new country? The country is a melting pot and immigrants should learn the language. Not the other way around. My great grandmother had to learn English in her 20's and she wasn't from another country, she was a native American. Having a bunch of people in the country that can't read the laws or the road sign makes no sense. If they can't read the birth certificate of their anchor baby, that's pretty fucked up. Lets put it another way, should every teacher in the US know 5 languages? Right now over 1/3 of Texas speaks Spanish in their home, not a problem, but why should every public servant learn Spanish?

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Originally Posted by cgiGeek

we actually dont want you on our taco bells... fuck off and leave

So you own Taco Bell? or just an asshole?

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Why

how soon we forget that almost all of our ancestors arrived here from somewhere.

im 100% for legal immigration, but if you cant follow the rules and pay your taxes GTFO!

i have legally immigrated to, lived and worked in a foreign country, its not so bad.

My ancestors were here first, but I will share with those that get here legally

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

but why should every public servant learn Spanish?

Because a good portion of the public speaks spanish. It's not rocket surgery. If we had a large Mongolian population here, I'm sure they'd probably need to learn Mongolian as well.

epitome · 05-26-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

have you ever lived here

you can get stamps making $800 per month i think the cap is like $1100 but you have to be working. and kicking whites off welfare you dont know what their going through.

It was a tongue in cheek comment I made ... people like to bitch about everyone else but they refuse to look within.

TheDoc · 05-26-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I wouldn't have such a hate for the asshole if he did anything right!

He let the fucking President Of Mexico bash the American people for their vote on a bill to force the US government to do what they are suppose to do, in front of CONGRESS!

Fuck Obama

I'm tired of that bowing Politically correct son of a bitch

Where do you get this 1000's? I read the news report and it said much smaller number after the Bush Plan ended in 08. And where do you get the 300 miles? They stated along the mexico US border. Maybe you would like a copy of hooked on phonics? It might help!

Should he have like dropped kicked the Mexican President? What about when other leaders have bashed us for war or economic plans and various other things, did those presidents drop kick them? When our President visits them and says things those Country people don't like, do they drop kick our president or just throw a shoe at them?

Your hate for his actions is rather crazy when every single president has done what he has.

Bush sent 6k worth, on top of what was already at the border to help monitor the build. He then reduced it back but not all the way.. leaving 1000's here to work with the crap system he put in place.

300 miles is about the length of the AZ border.

Actually, I'm a bit happier to find out he might send them across the entire border, even though our state asked for 1500 in the bill. I don't support the current 6k being asked for, I'm not much for having a war zone 10 minutes from my house even though it looks like it will happen sooner or later.

Knowing many more troops are coming, I'm willing to share.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

For your reference, a liberal news feed
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6518192.shtml
Of course they didn't state how many troops Bush sent, that would make Obama look bad!

I find it funny that Arizona found out about troop deployment thru the associated press, man our government is fucked up!

Why would they need to state the number? Did they state how many troops are here and how much it beefed it up? They didn't simply point out that Bush did it to monitor the failed build of the wall. ABC simply reported what happened, nothing else.

Yeah, we can find articles going back for a long time where the local and state found out through the press. Chances are he announced it, then they called up and ask if they knew about, right when the person showed up to the work 2 hours later.

Your hate towards the left/liberal ideas or this gov/obama is so misguided that it's truly pathetic. Basically if he/they don't do 'exactly' what you want - it's the worst damn thing in the world and our Country is about to burn down over it.

Get over it.... our Country is still here.

_Richard_ · 05-26-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cyber

I'm not seeking to gain attention. It just irks me that so many people feel illegal immigration is a clear cut thing.

My mother moved to the states because of how dangerous Nicaragua had become thanks to the US involvement with the Contras. We were wetbacks here for years (16 years to be exact) before we were granted amnesty... basically an apology for fucking up my home country.

The US gives huge subsidies to US farmers, who then sell their food so cheaply south of the border that local farmers are unable to compete, because they do not receive subsidies from their government. So, they lose their farms. What should they do? Lose their farms and work for $2 an hour in their home country, or come here illegally and make much more than that?

I'm not calling America evil. I'm saying that it has major involvement in all this. In the words of Jeremiah Wright, America's "chickens coming home to roost".

you should read about what happens when Canada tries to subsidize it's industries and what the US will do about it..

escorpio · 05-26-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Then I don't have a lot of faith in your ability to understand basic 3rd grade math.

Really? Here's the stats you posted...

"Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:

Race
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White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4"

Here's your assertion..."From what I see and based off the number of people, White people collect FAR more welfare than Blacks and Latino combined, the population difference is huge."

Please explain how you came to your conclusion.

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Because a good portion of the public speaks spanish. It's not rocket surgery. If we had a large Mongolian population here, I'm sure they'd probably need to learn Mongolian as well.

So you're saying we should disregard the Asian immigrants here and the 14 different dialects they speak? Including Mongolian. Or should all the public servants learn all 14 different dialects as well?

I grew up around the corner from some Mongolians, spoke perfect English, I had a big crush on Julie!

Funny how when I grew up in California, we celebrated Cinco De Mayo, we learned Spanish in the 6th grade, we learned about the culture of Mexico, but you're telling me they shouldn't have to do that?

Should we only be concerned about large populations of a different language?

pequeño trabajo para rentabilidad grande

TheDoc · 05-26-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

This is what I don't get about this illegal crap. If a Mexican can come into this country not speaking the language, zero US education, and work harder for less and take away a job from any American ...possibly they're not the problem?

This country provides the best opportunity to improve your life and Americans are provided more opportunities or possibilities then any other country in the world. Again, if you have any problem with them taking your job then you're the problem..

That's not what actually happens... They take jobs because they 'work for less' that otherwise has to be a min amount and set hours, which is abused with illegals. They cost the company 'less in taxes, benefits, insurance, etc' so the company profits more squeezing out companies doing it legally.

And plenty, plenty, plenty of Americans will do the jobs, but are never offered the jobs... and for the farms they have very easy immigration paths to take for harvest times.

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So you're saying we should disregard the Asian immigrants here and the 14 different dialects they speak? Including Mongolian. Or should all the public servants learn all 14 different dialects as well?

I grew up around the corner from some Mongolians, spoke perfect English, I had a big crush on Julie!

Funny how when I grew up in California, we celebrated Cinco De Mayo, we learned Spanish in the 6th grade, we learned about the culture of Mexico, but you're telling me they shouldn't have to do that?

Should we only be concerned about large populations of a different language?

pequeño trabajo para rentabilidad grande

Well, as the saying goes, you can't please all of the people all of the time. The world isn't perfect. I didn't build it.

TheDoc · 05-26-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Really? Here's the stats you posted...

"Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:

Race
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White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4"

Here's your assertion..."From what I see and based off the number of people, White people collect FAR more welfare than Blacks and Latino combined, the population difference is huge."

Please explain how you came to your conclusion.

White: 4,701,013 = 1,823,993 people on welfare
Black: 210,069 = 78,145 people on welfare
Hispanic: 1,785,737 = 317,861 people on welfare

78,145 + 317,861 = 396,006

Difference of 1.4 million more whites on welfare. So really we could say, whites collect more welfare than all other races combined together.

escorpio · 05-26-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

White: 4,701,013 = 1,823,993 people on welfare
Black: 210,069 = 78,145 people on welfare
Hispanic: 1,785,737 = 317,861 people on welfare

78,145 + 317,861 = 396,006

Difference of 1.4 million more whites on welfare. So really we could say, whites collect more welfare than all other races combined together.

Where are these numbers from and what do they represent?

38.8% of welfare recipients are white
37.2% are black
17.8 are hispanic

Which means blacks and hispanics combined comprise 55% of welfare recipients. Which is greater than 38.8%

TheDoc · 05-26-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Where are these numbers from and what do they represent?

38.8% of welfare recipients are white
37.2% are black
17.8 are hispanic

Which means blacks and hispanics combined comprise 55% of welfare recipients. Which is greater than 38.8%

This is very basic stuff... when you have an astounding amount more of one thing, it's going to be a larger amount even if the other two are added together. As I said in the original quote you shared of mine, "the population difference is huge."

brassmonkey · 05-26-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Where are these numbers from and what do they represent?

38.8% of welfare recipients are white
37.2% are black
17.8 are hispanic

Which means blacks and hispanics combined comprise 55% of welfare recipients. Which is greater than 38.8%

who gives a fuck its just more of your racial bullshit

TheDoc · 05-26-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

My post was in reverence to the Taco bell post. BUT with that said, the companies (or you) should always be in a position to report them if they do hire illegals. Period.

But the truth, have you ever seen an unemployed US teenager go to a farm owner during harvest time? ...- it would never happen.

There is a solution to this problem like they do in Europe. The Government there finds you a (any) job and if you refuse they cut your benefits.

How do I know if they hired illegals and it sounds like someone did report them...

Of course kids aren't going to farm for 14 hours a day for $10 in 120 heat and farms can't pay them the legal wage. That's why farms have easy immigration paths to take for harvest time and don't need illegals.

The real solution to our problem is to make it criminal to hire illegals.. like Oklahoma did, which of course nobody went off the handle about.

escorpio · 05-26-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

This is very basic stuff... when you have an astounding amount more of one thing, it's going to be a larger amount even if the other two are added together. As I said in the original quote you shared of mine, "the population difference is huge."

That's not the percentage of white people that are on welfare, it's the percentage of people on welfare that are white. Difference in population has nothing to do with it.

escorpio · 05-26-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

who gives a fuck its just more of your racial bullshit

Poor little chango can dish it out but he can't take it so he cries racism.

So typical of you people.

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Should he have like dropped kicked the Mexican President? What about when other leaders have bashed us for war or economic plans and various other things, did those presidents drop kick them? When our President visits them and says things those Country people don't like, do they drop kick our president or just throw a shoe at them?

Your hate for his actions is rather crazy when every single president has done what he has.

Name a president that has bowed to another foreign leader, you think Reagan did?
And yes, drop kick the SOB, Obama knew what he was going to say before he said it, you know that!

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Bush sent 6k worth, on top of what was already at the border to help monitor the build. He then reduced it back but not all the way.. leaving 1000's here to work with the crap system he put in place.

300 miles is about the length of the AZ border.

Actually, I'm a bit happier to find out he might send them across the entire border, even though our state asked for 1500 in the bill. I don't support the current 6k being asked for, I'm not much for having a war zone 10 minutes from my house even though it looks like it will happen sooner or later.

Knowing many more troops are coming, I'm willing to share.

Why would they need to state the number? Did they state how many troops are here and how much it beefed it up? They didn't simply point out that Bush did it to monitor the failed build of the wall. ABC simply reported what happened, nothing else.

Yeah, we can find articles going back for a long time where the local and state found out through the press. Chances are he announced it, then they called up and ask if they knew about, right when the person showed up to the work 2 hours later.

Your hate towards the left/liberal ideas or this gov/obama is so misguided that it's truly pathetic. Basically if he/they don't do 'exactly' what you want - it's the worst damn thing in the world and our Country is about to burn down over it.

Get over it.... our Country is still here.

I don't have a hate for the government, just the asshole in charge, just like I'm sure you said the same thing when Bush was in office, so fuck off in those statements

The number was left out in the news release, because it compares what Bush did to what Obama is doing, Obama is sending about a fifth of what Bush sent and I have yet to see a news report to state where they are going, it says they are going to the border, not to the Arizona border.

You keep calling me pathetic, is that the best you have?
I don't like high debt
I don't like having the best military on the planet and have my leader bowing to leaders of third world nations
I hate political correctness when dealing with terrorist.
I hate the government passing huge bills for entitlements saying they are going to save money and not really knowing if they will or not just to find out later they don't save, they cost.
I hate a president that runs on promises he hasn't kept, and comparing that to past presidents makes it right in your book, you're a fucking tool for even saying that!
He won't say Radical Islamic Extremist, but he can call a peaceful movement of concerned US CITIZENS Tea Baggers, FUCK THAT ASSHOLE!!!
And gods sake, can that ass hat just once look at the fucking camera when he gives a speech? that's what liars do when they can't look you in the eye!

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Well, as the saying goes, you can't please all of the people all of the time. The world isn't perfect. I didn't build it.

No, you can't , there will always be some poor SOB that won't be happy.
But some new laws that should be enforced need to come up.

If you want to be a citizen, learn the language
If you want to be a citizen, do so legally
If you want to be a citizen, embrace being a US citizen and don't fly an Mexican flag, if that's what you love, then you can go back.

We spend BILLIONS in security forces in other countries, lets spend a little in this country!

Rochard · 05-26-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cyber

ok fine I'll bite.

Let's say I live in a fake country, ok? this country is ruled by an evil dictator, right. So, me and my fellow countrymen overthrow this dictator, and assume control of the country. Easy enough, right?

Ok, then the US comes in and gives money and training to very bad men. The money comes from selling weapons (bombs) to another country, then funneling that money illegally into my country. Not only do they bring in money, but they train these guys on how to lay landmines. Not militarily strategic placements, no. They lay these landmines outside of villages where thousands of innocent civilians blow up by stepping on them. Still with me? Because in addition to all this, your country also sells cocaine in my country to raise money.

The end result is that my country is left in absolute shambles. It'll take decades to properly fix up.

Have you guessed what country I am from?

Florida!

(LOL. I'm kidding!)

I honestly have no idea what country your talking about. And don't care.

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

How do I know if they hired illegals and it sounds like someone did report them...

Of course kids aren't going to farm for 14 hours a day for $10 in 120 heat and farms can't pay them the legal wage. That's why farms have easy immigration paths to take for harvest time and don't need illegals.

The real solution to our problem is to make it criminal to hire illegals.. like Oklahoma did, which of course nobody went off the handle about.

You ned to catch up with your reading.

Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I don't like high debt

Who does?

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I don't like having the best military on the planet and have my leader bowing to leaders of third world nations

Military might & diplomacy are not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I hate political correctness when dealing with terrorist.

which terrorist is receiving the benefit of political correctness?

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I hate the government passing huge bills for entitlements saying they are going to save money and not really knowing if they will or not just to find out later they don't save, they cost.

Like Social Security & Medicare?

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I hate a president that runs on promises he hasn't kept

Like 99.9% of every politician in the world? Not keeping promises is at least a little less evil than flat out lying repeatedly to the entire world, rigging elections, and starting illegal wars based on more lies.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

He won't say Radical Islamic Extremist, but he can call a peaceful movement of concerned US CITIZENS Tea Baggers, FUCK THAT ASSHOLE!!!

I believe it was the Teabaggers themselves that began referring to themselves as 'Teabaggers'.

Rochard · 05-26-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn

I just received this from a friend

Recently large demonstrations have taken place
across the country protesting the fact that Congress
is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration.

Certain people are angry that
The US might protect its own
borders, might make it harder
to sneak into this country and,
once here, to stay indefinitely.

Let me see if I correctly understand
the thinking behind these protests.
let's say I break into your house.
let's say that when you discover
me in your house, you insist that I leave.

But I say, 'No! I like it here.
it's better than my house. I've made all
the beds and washed the
dishes and did the laundry
and swept the floors. I've
done all the things you don't
like to do. I'm hard-working
and honest
(except for when I broke into your house).

according to the protesters:
You are Required to let me stay in your house
You are Required to feed me
You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan
You are Required to Educate my kids
You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family
(my husband will do all of your yard work because
He is also hard-working and honest, except for that
Breaking in part).

If you try to call the police or force me out,
I will call my friends who will picket your
house carrying signs that proclaim my
RIGHT to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have
a nicer house than I do, and I'm just
trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working
and honest, person, except for well,
you know, I did break into your house
and what a deal it is for me!!!

I live in your house, contributing only a
fraction of the cost of my keep, and
there is nothing you can do about it
without being accused of cold, Uncaring,
selfish, prejudiced, and Bigoted behavior.

Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn
MY LANGUAGE!!! So you can
communicate with me.

I never really thought about it this way.

If your Mexican and your here legally, welcome to the United States. You can be my friend.

If your here illegally, driving a car without insurance, not paying taxes, sucking down my resources, and jacking up my health insurance because you go to the ER because you don't have your own insurance and need medical assistance.... Fuck off.

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

No, you can't , there will always be some poor SOB that won't be happy.
But some new laws that should be enforced need to come up.

If you want to be a citizen, learn the language
If you want to be a citizen, do so legally
If you want to be a citizen, embrace being a US citizen and don't fly an Mexican flag, if that's what you love, then you can go back.

We spend BILLIONS in security forces in other countries, lets spend a little in this country!

LOL, this redneck reasoning is funny.
I'm a white dude with a Scottish background. I love Mexico, and I will fly a Mexican flag off the front of my house right now in the middle of suburbia if I think it'll make me happy. Being an American citizen means I can do whatever the fuck I want. I'm sorry you don't agree with that, but you don't have to. Welcome to America.

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

I never really thought about it this way.

If your Mexican and your here legally, welcome to the United States. You can be my friend.

If your here illegally, driving a car without insurance, not paying taxes, sucking down my resources, and jacking up my health insurance because you go to the ER because you don't have your own insurance and need medical assistance.... Fuck off.

What about all the white citizens that are doing those things? You cool with that?

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Who does?

It seems the present Administration does

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Military might & diplomacy are not the same thing.

Yeah, thats working well with Iran, when Reagan took office, Iran backed down really fast, I know, I was there

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which terrorist is receiving the benefit of political correctness?

All of them when you have an Attorney general that won't use the word radical Islam when describing a terriost suspect

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Like Social Security & Medicare?

SSN has been mismanaged, same with Medicare, you would think we would learn, but no, we add more to the pile

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I believe it was the Teabaggers themselves that began referring to themselves as 'Teabaggers'.

Do you really think Obama was saying that in a good light?

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Do you really think Obama was saying that in a good light?

Doubt it. No one does. LOL

Vendzilla · 05-26-2010, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

LOL, this redneck reasoning is funny.
I'm a white dude with a Scottish background. I love Mexico, and I will fly a Mexican flag off the front of my house right now in the middle of suburbia if I think it'll make me happy. Being an American citizen means I can do whatever the fuck I want. I'm sorry you don't agree with that, but you don't have to. Welcome to America.

Yes it does, but you would think they would prefer to fly the US flag if the want to live here.
I love Mexico too, use to travel to Baja 3 or 4 times a year, San Quetin, great little spot in the middle of no where

CDSmith · 05-26-2010, 12:26 PM

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