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Immigration: Let's say I break into your house...
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![]() Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that The US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. let's say I break into your house. let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, 'No! I like it here. it's better than my house. I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house). according to the protesters: You are Required to let me stay in your house You are Required to feed me You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan You are Required to Educate my kids You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family (my husband will do all of your yard work because He is also hard-working and honest, except for that Breaking in part). If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house and what a deal it is for me!!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold, Uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and Bigoted behavior. Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! So you can communicate with me. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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ok fine I'll bite.
Let's say I live in a fake country, ok? this country is ruled by an evil dictator, right. So, me and my fellow countrymen overthrow this dictator, and assume control of the country. Easy enough, right? Ok, then the US comes in and gives money and training to very bad men. The money comes from selling weapons (bombs) to another country, then funneling that money illegally into my country. Not only do they bring in money, but they train these guys on how to lay landmines. Not militarily strategic placements, no. They lay these landmines outside of villages where thousands of innocent civilians blow up by stepping on them. Still with me? Because in addition to all this, your country also sells cocaine in my country to raise money. The end result is that my country is left in absolute shambles. It'll take decades to properly fix up. Have you guessed what country I am from? |
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To think that an owner should let a tresspasser stay on the property is unreasonable.
However, I read some articles that say in some places in North America there is a rule that says a place of business should give a person water, if the person demands water - because he/she could be dying of thirst.
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My mother moved to the states because of how dangerous Nicaragua had become thanks to the US involvement with the Contras. We were wetbacks here for years (16 years to be exact) before we were granted amnesty... basically an apology for fucking up my home country. The US gives huge subsidies to US farmers, who then sell their food so cheaply south of the border that local farmers are unable to compete, because they do not receive subsidies from their government. So, they lose their farms. What should they do? Lose their farms and work for $2 an hour in their home country, or come here illegally and make much more than that? I'm not calling America evil. I'm saying that it has major involvement in all this. In the words of Jeremiah Wright, America's "chickens coming home to roost". |
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lol A+
unless you are a native American which I doubt you are , you are just the first trespasser, and I bet you did not do beds, or laundry etc.
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After being robbed and conned out of everything I own, If they need my house cause it's better then where they came from, I'll make room.
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I do however know exactly what you are talking about when it comes to sending funds and hand outs to other countries. I have heard the same horrible stories in Africa when certain groups send clothing, food etc... and it enbds up hurting the local economies. If it was up to me we wouldn't send shit anywhere, let people build themselves. There will always be some silly hippie group wanting to enable the world and ends up doing more harm than help because it makes them feel better about themselves. I agree with you and wish I could stop it... ![]() However, I do, 100%, think there has to be something done about AZ... it's not cut and dry but it seems to be pretty damn cut and dry in Mexico and their border...
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About the house anology... Yeah. No. It's not a house, it's a piece of land with imaginary lines indicating different areas. Nationalism and patriotism are the bane of existence.
HOLY FUCK. YOU SEE MR. COMMIE, 'Merica is #1 because I was born here in this geographical location. YOUR PIECE OF SHIT COUNTRY SUCKS because it is not not this geographical piece of land (and you weren't born here), which I have invested a huge amount of imaginary faith into. You see, this land (the aformentioned ideal piece of land) is #1 because it has a name attahed to it, with certain values and traditions which, again, are attached to a piece of landmass. A piece of landmass that is so much better than your ass backwards piece of shit geographical area. YOUR LAND MASS SUCKS, LEARN TO SPEAK AMERICAN. That is patriotism. That is Americans in a nutshell. ![]()
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Where is that link you had up before your post insinuating I should shoot myself? Don't hate it’s a fucking debate GEESH...
It's the same thing we went through from England but they fought Spain... (no Texas didn't write the Spaniards into Mexican history... it's been in books since it started in the 1700’s…) GEESH dude what about this historical fact is going to change your political agenda today? If you want free borders does it really matter if Mexico was populated by Spaniards and they weren't the indigenous people you thought they were to the Americas? It’s like you think the Mexicans are what the Indians are to America, that they were the indigenous people, meaning the people who seem to have always been there… The Mexican War of Independence (1810–1821) was an armed conflict between the people of Mexico and the Spanish colonial authorities which started on 16 September 1810. The Mexican War of Independence movement was led by Mexican-born Spaniards, Mestizos and Amerindians who sought independence from Spain. It started as an idealistic peasants' rebellion against their colonial masters, but finally ended as an unlikely alliance between liberals and conservatives. It can be said that the struggle for Mexican independence dates back to the decades after the Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire, when Martín Cortés, son of Hernán Cortés and La Malinche, led a revolt against the Spanish colonial government in order to eliminate the issues of oppression and privileges for the conquistadors.[1] After the abortive Conspiracy of the Machetes in 1799, the War of Independence led by the Mexican-born Spaniards became a reality. The movement for independence was far from gaining unanimous support among Mexicans, who became divided between independentists, autonomists and royalists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican...f_Independence Just as we populated from England they populated in parts from Spain, and there is nothing wrong with that... I got a question for ya, let's hear what you think about Quebec speaking French?
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How about legalizing drugs and stop the insanity (just like the violence stopped at the end of Prohibition)
The reality is that people like to party. They like doing coke and smoking pot. It shouldn't be the govt's place to tell us what we can and can't do. People aren't going to stop wanting to do coke and smoke pot. WE are the country with the demand. What do you expect is going to happen when you make something illegal and make it incredibly profitable by doing so? Make it legal, tax it, let people be FREE to make their own choices in life as an adult. That way the Mexican workers can still come here and pick our fruit and veggies and do our lawn service just like they have since the beginning of our country. My family was a major citrus grower in Florida from the 1960's on. My grandfather had over a thousand "wetbacks" picking oranges in the fields. Nobody was bitching about it then. But now, because WE sent our military down to Columbia in our fucking moralistic "holier than thou" "War On Drugs" (and keep in mind WE are the biggest consumers of these "evil" drugs) and destroyed the Columbian Cartel...WE basically created the new Mexican Cartel. Once again, OUR bullshit causes problems. So now the solution is to build a fucking wall like the Soviet Union did across Germany? I thought that was supposed to be "bad" and "evil" when they did it. I'm disgusted with the mindset of my own countrymen and women. WTF are you thinking? WE are not supposed to be like Nazi's and the fucking Soviet Union. We are supposed to be FREE and a "beacon of light" |
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Secondly, illegals don't get a whole lot of free government assistance. They get free healthcare because they can go to the ER and clinics that don't require payment. They can't get food stamps, housing assistance or welfare if they are illegal so much of that stuff comes from churches and charity groups that help them out. Unless, they have a kid once they get here. If they have a kid that kid is a US citizen and then they can likely get assistance for that kid and they can send that kid back to school. This is where the problems set in. People might know the parents are illegal, but the kid isn't so it becomes kind of difficult for then to throw the parents out because, unless the kid wants to stay and has someone who can be a guardian, they are also tossing a US citizen out of the country. I'm all for immigrant reform. We need to do something. However, it isn't as cut and dried as a lot of people would have you believe. |
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the analogy is lacking some truth, i realise you didn't make this up but i will quote you ..
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Certain people are angry that C G E E7 The US might protect its own C G A F borders, might make it harder E to sneak into this country and, E7 once here, to stay indefinitely. bridge: CGFF7 A Let me see if I correctly understand E the thinking behind these protests. A let's say I break into your house. E let's say that when you discover E7 me in your house, you insist that I leave. F#m B A A But I say, 'No! I like it here. E it's better than my house. I've made all A the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry A7 and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't A like to do. I'm hard-working and honest E (except for when I broke into your house) |
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Immigration is not necessarily a bad thing, for example I would never expect anyone immigrating to this country, yet there is a plenty of manual workers from Ukraine, and lots of educated workforce (doctors, teachers) from Latin America, lots of Vietnamese shop keepers, to name a couple examples.
Locals are just too spoiled to work those jobs, and usually - the less able they are the more xenophobic. Of course there's "unwelcomed" immigration, Albanians, Kavkaz people playing a Russian roulette all the time, gypsies from all over the world migrating to the the Europa's welfare heaven etc. Btw. I was checking recently the Canadian immigration policy, it seemed pretty reasonable and I somehow got a feeling that anyone with half decent qualification, drive and language skills could get his chance. The rules seemed to be very pragmatic. What is the Canadian experience?
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Still, when you have all those requirements met you come to Canada and get the entry level job because you don't have Canadian experience. That's how Canada is buying 'noble hearts' for cheap and get the new blood.
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the "used to be our land" crap is just that,... crap. it "used to be" but it aint yours anymore LOL
When by war you take something it is yours. period. end of story. Aztlan is ours now silly mexicans, you gotta fight texas and the big portion of US if you want it back and you lost the first round so doubt you could beat us this time. Interestingly, Louisiana was never part of Aztlan, so new orleans is off the hook when it comes to the Reconquista war lol
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He's sending 1200 MORE troops, on top of the 1000's already here and not 1200 to the border, 1200 more to "300 miles" worth of border.
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We put in a huge amount and take out, and it just breaks even... an illegal does not put in as much as I do, period - yet they take equally as I do often more because they don't always have to pay.
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He let the fucking President Of Mexico bash the American people for their vote on a bill to force the US government to do what they are suppose to do, in front of CONGRESS! Fuck Obama I'm tired of that bowing Politically correct son of a bitch Where do you get this 1000's? I read the news report and it said much smaller number after the Bush Plan ended in 08. And where do you get the 300 miles? They stated along the mexico US border. Maybe you would like a copy of hooked on phonics? It might help! For your reference, a liberal news feed http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6518192.shtml Of course they didn't state how many troops Bush sent, that would make Obama look bad! I find it funny that Arizona found out about troop deployment thru the associated press, man our government is fucked up!
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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