FuckYouCash... where did my sale go??

[96ukssob]

I noticed yesterday on StatsRemote that I had 1 sale for $30. Then about an hour later I had 1 sale for $0. Hmmm....



Later that day I have 2 sales for $30 still. Wondering what happened

[Sly]

Did you contact them?

[Agent 488]

up your bum.

[GrouchyAdmin]

Chargeback/Refund deductions turned on?

[czarina]

free join may be?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Same thing happened to me, I am on PPS, they said

Hey there,

The sale was declined by our first biller, and the second biller is automatically on revshare. The sale was a free signup for TeenBff.



[email protected] | 238324160

strangely later I got a 67cent rebill emailed them with no response. I also asked to see the secondary biller so I could check for cross sales.

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by czarina

free join may be?

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Same thing happened to me, I am on PPS, they said



strangely later I got a 67cent rebill emailed them with no response. I also asked to see the secondary biller so I could check for cross sales.

its all mobile traffic to their mobile site so I'm not sure how it would of been anything else.

if it was always 1 sale for $0 then i would of just talked some shit to my cat and called it a day, but when it shows $30 one minute then $0 the next, im wondering what happened.

sent some IM's no response, I'll email them in a bit figuring their are on PST

[Agent 488]

weird. i checked out the join form on one of my porn pros mobile links it says:

"Note: Your Credit Card Was Declined.
Please re-fill out your Card Details and Try Again, or Use a new Credit Card."

before i entered anything?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by bossku69

its all mobile traffic to their mobile site so I'm not sure how it would of been anything else.

if it was always 1 sale for $0 then i would of just talked some shit to my cat and called it a day, but when it shows $30 one minute then $0 the next, im wondering what happened.

sent some IM's no response, I'll email them in a bit figuring their are on PST

Oh I see.

[bns666]

your traffic doesn't seem too productive (6946 raw / 856 uniques) ?

[GrouchyAdmin]

Originally Posted by bossku69

if it was always 1 sale for $0 then i would of just talked some shit to my cat and called it a day, but when it shows $30 one minute then $0 the next, im wondering what happened.

I'm not going to stick up for FYC - for one, I've never done business with them.

I will start off by stating that this still seems a little odd, as a rollover to a second biller should only credit you upon that second biller posting back - and should show in those stats unless they have a DB_STATS user that's horribly out of sync; but it's showing that sale just not the value of it.

However, StatsRemote sometimes does stuff very, very wrong. There was a pretty neat bug for awhile that would change your averages per account dynamically as you resized the window. Great for party tricks. I'd see what FYC's explanation is.

Also: Calling out a network over a single perceived missing join. Is this truly where this industry is now?

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by bns666

your traffic doesn't seem too productive (6946 raw / 856 uniques) ?

its mobile traffic, I have no control over that

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

I'm not going to stick up for FYC - for one, I've never done business with them.

I will start off by stating that this still seems a little odd, as a rollover to a second biller should only credit you upon that second biller posting back - and should show in those stats unless they have a DB_STATS user that's horribly out of sync; but it's showing that sale just not the value of it.

However, StatsRemote sometimes does stuff very, very wrong. There was a pretty neat bug for awhile that would change your averages per account dynamically as you resized the window. Great for party tricks. I'd see what FYC's explanation is.

Also: Calling out a network over a single perceived missing join. Is this truly where this industry is now?

Not that I'm calling them out by any means, but looking for someone to respond as to why this is. I normally and not going through my stats every 10 minutes, as I have work to do and this worries me. $30 or $30 million, its still money regardless.

I checked the first time around to see where the sale was generated from (doing some testing) and saw inside their admin 1 sale $30 (same as on statsremote).

Either case if its a mistake on their end or whatever thats fine, just want to get it resolved, I'm tired of getting hosed and loosing money. I doubt it would be a charge back in the same day, let alone about 2 hours later.

They still convert well for me regardless, better than any other mobile sponsor to date

[DVTimes]

1 sale i would not worry.

[kristin]

And you are sure there isn't a credit or CB in there? Go to detailed stats and it will show it. If I remember correctly, they have that feature checked in their NATS.

[rollinthunder]

Shave feature.... you aren't that stupid to think that dosen't exist, right?

[Agent 488]

prob a chargeback.

[tonyparra]

Maybe when they pay you you can give me the piss ass $25 you owe me. From a year ago. bitch.

[PlugRush Sascha]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

1 sale i would not worry.

What kind of batshit crazy stance is that? If they're willing to shave one sale right in front of your eyes, then they're probably willing to shave 100 off as well.

Maybe there's a good explanation for what happened, but $30 being there one minute and then turning into $0 the next minute is worrying to say the least. We'll see what FYC has to say.

[rollinthunder]

Originally Posted by tonyparra

Maybe when they pay you you can give me the piss ass $25 you owe me. From a year ago. bitch.

Anybody crying about $30 will not be paying you back $25, sorry.

[Agent 488]

maybe they just subtracted tonyparra's money and added it to his account.

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by tonyparra

Maybe when they pay you you can give me the piss ass $25 you owe me. From a year ago. bitch.

what the fuck are you talking about?

[Supz]

Originally Posted by rollinthunder

Anybody crying about $30 will not be paying you back $25, sorry.

you obviously don't get the point. Do you think its he is worried about the 1 time 30 dollars. He is worried if it is happening more often....

Whoever here thinks 30 dollars isn't a big deal. You can send me 30 dollars any day . Let me know if you want my epass. For all the knuckleheads in here asking why 30 dollars is a big deal. Icq me, I will give you my epass. You can all send me 30. Its not a big deal, right?

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by rollinthunder

Anybody crying about $30 will not be paying you back $25, sorry.

I have no idea what this jackass is crying about. I've had him on block for a while but wanted to see what he had said.

I don't owe anyone money, so he's full of shit trying to jump into another one of my threads to cause more problems. fuck off already

Originally Posted by Supz

you obviously don't get the point. Do you think its he is worried about the 1 time 30 dollars. He is worried if it is happening more often....

Whoever here thinks 30 dollars isn't a big deal. You can send me 30 dollars any day . Let me know if you want my epass. For all the knuckleheads in here asking why 30 dollars is a big deal. Icq me, I will give you my epass. You can all send me 30. Its not a big deal, right?

Exactly. If its 1, there might be 10. Regardless, if its not a billing mistake on their end, then its still owed money that is going in someone elses pocket rather than mine

[GrouchyAdmin]

Originally Posted by bossku69

Not that I'm calling them out by any means, but looking for someone to respond as to why this is. I normally and not going through my stats every 10 minutes, as I have work to do and this worries me. $30 or $30 million, its still money regardless.

You still didn't mention if you got the notification from NATS about it.

Usually, SR tries to 'parse' the page, and I've seen it fail horribly before. If you only saw it on SR, I would still be wary.

Honestly, it looks like a sale+refund or sale+cb combo. If they offer 'extended' stats, you can often see if you had a CB or Refund. PPS removing on refunds is a pretty shitty thing to do, though - although I have seen some programs with that turned on in the past.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by bossku69

I have no idea what this jackass is crying about. I've had him on block for a while but wanted to see what he had said.

I don't owe anyone money, so he's full of shit trying to jump into another one of my threads to cause more problems. fuck off already

Im a jackass John? On ignore? Since when, when you made me look like a fool? WTF are you referring too? What problems have i caused? BTW, i dont have to jump in your threads, its a public forum i can visit any thread I want. However all your snarky little "How not to get ripped off", "Im buying a $300, 000 house and cant get a loan" and "FYC gimme back my $30" have pissed me off. I dont really care about the money see, cus even though im not a "big time" webmaster i pay my bills and eat every night. But out of ALL the people who have asked anything of me only one has not given me something after promises to send the cash. Have guys cut projects short, only paid partial, or went ghost on me? Yep sure have but they sent something for the work done. You on other hand did not and in my opinion made me look like a fool purposely for kicks.

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

You still didn't mention if you got the notification from NATS about it.

Usually, SR tries to 'parse' the page, and I've seen it fail horribly before. If you only saw it on SR, I would still be wary.

Honestly, it looks like a sale+refund or sale+cb combo. If they offer 'extended' stats, you can often see if you had a CB or Refund. PPS removing on refunds is a pretty shitty thing to do, though - although I have seen some programs with that turned on in the past.

I logged into their site (which uses NATS) and showed 1 sale for $30 after I saw it on SR.

Two hours later when SR updated, I noticed my daily total was lower than what it was earlier that day. I found the FUCash was now at $0 when earlier it was at $30. I logged back in and now see 1 sale $0

Referral came from a bookmarked link it showed, but I have a few of those towards sales.

Last night I logged into FUCash and saw I have 2 sales (this one coming from another referral URL from one of my sites) for a total of $30

They only show referring URL and daily totals, thats it.

Still no response from their support

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by tonyparra

Im a jackass John? On ignore? Since when, when you made me look like a fool? WTF are you referring too? What problems have i caused? BTW, i dont have to jump in your threads, its a public forum i can visit any thread I want. However all your snarky little "How not to get ripped off", "Im buying a $300, 000 house and cant get a loan" and "FYC gimme back my $30" have pissed me off. I dont really care about the money see, cus even though im not a "big time" webmaster i pay my bills and eat every night. But out of ALL the people who have asked anything of me only one has not given me something after promises to send the cash. Have guys cut projects short, only paid partial, or went ghost on me? Yep sure have but they sent something for the work done. You on other hand did not and in my opinion made me look like a fool purposely for kicks.

I honestly have no idea who you are, sorry.

Again, what do I owe you money for? Specifically this $25? I can't remember any deals that I have ever done with anyone for that low of an amount, so please fill me in or stfu.

I've never asked you for anything, so again fill me in on what your talking about. If I do owe you some $25, I will even pay you DOUBLE for the problems it has cause, but my is your full of shit.

BTW, my threads were to help people who have been ripped off. If you get upset by them, then don't read it... pretty simple

[kristin]

Originally Posted by bossku69

I logged into their site (which uses NATS) and showed 1 sale for $30 after I saw it on SR.

Two hours later when SR updated, I noticed my daily total was lower than what it was earlier that day. I found the FUCash was now at $0 when earlier it was at $30. I logged back in and now see 1 sale $0

Referral came from a bookmarked link it showed, but I have a few of those towards sales.

Last night I logged into FUCash and saw I have 2 sales (this one coming from another referral URL from one of my sites) for a total of $30

They only show referring URL and daily totals, thats it.

Still no response from their support

Did you look at the detailed stats to see if your account has a credit or CB? You have to click detailed stats to see the info on it. Usually this is what happens, shows a signup and then $0 if they deducted.

And as I said before, I believe FUCash has this in place in their NATS.

[GrouchyAdmin]

Originally Posted by bossku69

I logged into their site (which uses NATS) and showed 1 sale for $30 after I saw it on SR.

Sure looks like sale+credit, sale+cb.

If they have detailed stats setup, you can go to /stats_detailed.php and choose your program. It's not standardly setup, so it's probably not there.

Note that this may show CB+Credits, but that can also be removed from detailed stats pretty easily.

...or basically what Kristin said above.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by bossku69

I honestly have no idea who you are, sorry.

I will even pay you DOUBLE for the problems it has cause, but my is your full of shit.

Double? O really? Do you want proof here? in another thread? You dont know who i am but you have me on ignore?

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by tonyparra

Double? O really? Do you want proof here? in another thread? You dont know who i am but you have me on ignore?

like I said, if i owe you money and its been a year, then I will gladly pay you $25 more. i am not in the business to steal money from people or walk away and not pay bills.

if you want to email me the proof of what it is then fine go ahead.

yes, I have you on block because you say retarded shit in my threads or even toll behind me on posts with comments. i don't know the other 40 some people i have on block, but they are as well.

keep the childish shit on 4chan, i dont have time for games and im already annoyed that you wont come forth with what it is i owe you money for, so i'm still calling bs.

ACTUALLY, lets do this. provide proof that I owe you $25 or you have to pay me $25 for being a pain in the dick? deal?

[maxxtro]

They don`t call themselves "FuckYouCash" for nothing..

[arock10]

usually just a refund

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by maxxtro

They don`t call themselves "FuckYouCash" for nothing..

Ive never had any problems, but these days I'm not going to let anything slide.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by bossku69

like I said, if i owe you money and its been a year, then I will gladly pay you $25 more. i am not in the business to steal money from people or walk away and not pay bills.

if you want to email me the proof of what it is then fine go ahead.

yes, I have you on block because you say retarded shit in my threads or even toll behind me on posts with comments. i don't know the other 40 some people i have on block, but they are as well.

keep the childish shit on 4chan, i dont have time for games and im already annoyed that you wont come forth with what it is i owe you money for, so i'm still calling bs.

ACTUALLY, lets do this. provide proof that I owe you $25 or you have to pay me $25 for being a pain in the dick? deal?

LOL man ive never been to 4chan but to be honest i started fucking with you in your threads after asking you a few times in email and icq for some money. Fine ill provide proof here that way you cant say i didnt come forth. I did several times after i a while i was like fuck it, But then again i dont let people do that to me offline, and the fact you were ignoring me this long...so i wont jack your thread anymore https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=980026

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by bossku69

Ive never had any problems, but these days I'm not going to let anything slide.

good me either

[gleem]

me: ok, I am showing a sale today to one of my PIC account "xxxxx " for $0, what's that?

FU: hey, this is whats happening. If somebody is trying to sign up for a membership and it got declined by the first biller. We send them directly to the secondary biller. The problem is, the fees are way higher for the secondary billers so we are forced to pay rev share on these sales

me: seriously? so the revshare on this sale is $0?

fu: good thing is that you dont loose the sale, well its a free membership so you will get the rebills for life time for the members, at the end of the day its making you more money

me: it's a $1 trial, I should get at least 50 cents no?

FU: i can also cancel it and dont send it to the second biller for you if you want that. But then you lose the sale


--- as long as it's honestly a decline and they are simply automatically sending surfers with mastercard or ones that uncheck the pre-check x-sells to the secondary it's all good... test it yourself and see folks.

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

PPS removing on refunds is a pretty shitty thing to do, though - although I have seen some programs with that turned on in the past.

Thats exactly what it is. They said it was a charge back and removed the $$... but why keep the sale there then??

Still, this all happened within two hours (this is through FUC's stats admin). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it takes a least a day for a chargeback to post back to the merchant right?

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by bossku69

Thats exactly what it is. They said it was a charge back and removed the $$... but why keep the sale there then??

Still, this all happened within two hours (this is through FUC's stats admin). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it takes a least a day for a chargeback to post back to the merchant right?

I would think about a week to call bank, fill out report, and go thru the process.

[kristin]

Originally Posted by bossku69

Thats exactly what it is. They said it was a charge back and removed the $$... but why keep the sale there then??

Still, this all happened within two hours (this is through FUC's stats admin). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it takes a least a day for a chargeback to post back to the merchant right?

It's a CB from a different surfer. You got a join that day and also had a CB that day, the $$ column is the net. So you had someone signup and a different member CB within two hours.

[BigDeanEvans]

Calling out some company on a public forum over 30 dollars? You couldn't have emailed them?

[seeandsee]

so did you got email what happened?