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Tom_PM · 08-05-2010, 08:44 AM

"The people" also said that blacks should not be integrated into the armed forces. Didnt Fox report that news last week like everyone else? ~85% of soldiers said at the time that integrating blacks would destroy the US army. Truman did it anyway because he possessed enough simple common sense to see the handwriting on the wall. Will it be the GOP agenda to repeal that too?

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

"The people" also said that blacks should not be integrated into the armed forces. Didnt Fox report that news last week like everyone else? ~85% of soldiers said at the time that integrating blacks would destroy the US army. Truman did it anyway because he possessed enough simple common sense to see the handwriting on the wall. Will it be the GOP agenda to repeal that too?

The "people" also said blacks can't marry whites, and at one point blacks couldn't even marry other blacks.

The "people" aren't necessarily the wisest owls.

gumdrop · 08-05-2010, 08:47 AM

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I'm absolutely down for this. Get rid of that word altogether. It's attached to religion anyway. There needs to be a neutral legal process.

Why should we give "religists" that word? It doesn't belong to them. It belongs to humanity as it always has been throughout the ages. They've tried to take words make them there own.

I fed up with it.

Vendzilla · 08-05-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gumdrop

Sorry to burst your bubble but "marriage" has had many incarnations throughout history, culture and civilization.

It continues to be "rewritten" as man evolves.

So when has it been other than a husband and wife?

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I agree. Its so ironic that the majority of people that call for "smaller government" also push for more imposing government regulations. We live in a land of contradiction.

Not about more regulations, just don't want to change the meaning of Marriage

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Personally, I think the word marriage should be taken out of the arguement completely and everyone wanting to bond themselves to another individual should be documented as a "civil union"- hetero and same sex couples alike. So for instance you don't apply for a marriage license, you apply for a civil union license, etc. It's up to the couple if they want to call it marriage or not. Religion should be taken completely out of the equasion.

I could live with that, call it a civil union, then when they get a divorce, we can call that a UNcivil union

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1. Again, "the people" don't get to vote on basic rights provided by the constitution. It never should have been a vote in the first place.

2. That's why we have a judicial branch. Not just to put criminals in prison, but to challenge retarded laws that were voted on by the people (the majority voting on protected rights for a minority group) and laws that were poorly conceived by legislators. That's why it's called "checks & balances". The system worked exactly as it's supposed to.

But it did go to a vote and that was thrown out by a judge that should have removed himself from the decision because of being openly gay

Vendzilla · 08-05-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

"The people" also said that blacks should not be integrated into the armed forces. Didnt Fox report that news last week like everyone else? ~85% of soldiers said at the time that integrating blacks would destroy the US army. Truman did it anyway because he possessed enough simple common sense to see the handwriting on the wall. Will it be the GOP agenda to repeal that too?

Now you're calling GOP racist, do you have one fucking brain cell that's your own? Or are you just going to spout what the liberal press needs you to?

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 09:03 AM

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Now you're calling GOP racist,...

It's not true?

Tom_PM · 08-05-2010, 09:05 AM

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Now you're calling GOP racist, do you have one fucking brain cell that's your own? Or are you just going to spout what the liberal press needs you to?

What in the hell is wrong with you dude? I stated a historical fact, and wondered out loud if it will also be part of the GOP political agenda to repeal another instance of the government acting CONTRARY to the will of the people.

Save your race baiting for someone else, I dont appreciate it.

Vendzilla · 08-05-2010, 09:11 AM

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It's not true?

Apparently he thinks that all GOP are Racist

lesbodojo · 08-05-2010, 09:18 AM

I'm interested to see how the judge handles the stay application.

IllTestYourGirls · 08-05-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

"The people" also said that blacks should not be integrated into the armed forces. Didnt Fox report that news last week like everyone else? ~85% of soldiers said at the time that integrating blacks would destroy the US army. Truman did it anyway because he possessed enough simple common sense to see the handwriting on the wall. Will it be the GOP agenda to repeal that too?

Wasnt it a progressive that segregated the army and a Republican that desegregated?

The problem today is most republicans are progressives.

Vendzilla · 08-05-2010, 09:30 AM

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Wasnt it a progressive that segregated the army and a Republican that desegregated?

The problem today is most republicans are progressives.

He forgot that Abe Lincoln was the first GOP president

IllTestYourGirls · 08-05-2010, 09:31 AM

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He forgot that Abe Lincoln was the first GOP president

Then Teddy came and fucked all that up

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

lol .... bla bla bla ....

Variation in divorce rates by religion:

Jews 30%
Born-again Christians 27%
Other Christians 24%
Atheists, Agnostics 21%

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

must be a "liberal" source ...

http://www.jewishideas.org/articles/...x-jewish-famil

http://matzav.com/ou-survey-finds-th...ety-as-a-whole

http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/Interma...lancing_1.html

Blah blah you're an idiot as usual.

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 10:38 AM

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Ummm, it changed yesterday brainiac. Supreme Court will uphold because you don't vote on rights. That's why they're called 'rights'. Try read the 14th amendment sometime genius.

Good god, you're not only a moron, but a moron that doesn't understand how amendments work with federal statutes. Too easy.

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 10:39 AM

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Good god, you're not only a moron, but a moron that doesn't understand how amendments work with federal statutes. Too easy.

Why don't you enlighten us with your vast knowledge then slick.

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gumdrop

Sorry to burst your bubble but "marriage" has had many incarnations throughout history, culture and civilization.

It continues to be "rewritten" as man evolves.

Really? It's been between a man and a man or a woman and a woman? Who taught you ancient history?

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 10:42 AM

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Why don't you enlighten us with your vast knowledge then slick.

You do understand the difference between theory and practice right? You also understand that homosexuals aren't considered a legal minority too right? So you're telling me the Supreme Court must uphold is retarded, considering if they held your simplistic and literal views of the constitution, same sex rights would have been established long ago. But please, keep humoring us. There's been a shortage of moronic liberals lately.

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 10:46 AM

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You do understand the difference between theory and practice right? You also understand that homosexuals aren't considered a legal minority too right? So you're telling me the Supreme Court must uphold is retarded, considering if they held your simplistic and literal views of the constitution, same sex rights would have been established long ago. But please, keep humoring us. There's been a shortage of moronic liberals lately.

What part of "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." don't you grasp? Obviously I'm not privy to your wealth of Constitutional Law expertise or razor sharp powers of deductive reasoning. You are just too damn cool for school, and I want to be you.

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 10:48 AM

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What part of "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." don't you grasp? Obviously I'm not privy to your wealth of Constitutional Law expertise or razor sharp powers of deductive reasoning. You are just too damn cool for school, and I want to be you.

What part of "theory vs. practice" and "literal vs. interpretation" don't you understand? I realize you're trying too hard and it's frying the few brain cells you have left, but maybe you should step down from this one. Although you're definitely humorous with your "The Supreme Court will uphold because it's in the Constitution" logic.

Also, I understand you're too dumb to realize federal statutes supersede state courts, such as the Marriage Protection Amendment, DOMA, etc.

The only right the state has is to allow a civil union.

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

What part of "theory vs. practice" and "literal vs. interpretation" don't you understand? I realize you're trying too hard and it's frying the few brain cells you have left, but maybe you should step down from this one. Although you're definitely humorous with your "The Supreme Court will uphold because it's in the Constitution" logic.

Yes, I'm struggling to stay upright and breathing because I'm on my last neuron. Thanks for the assist Demon, I might not have made it to noon without your help.

Vendzilla · 08-05-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Also, I understand you're too dumb to realize federal statutes supersede state courts, such as the Marriage Protection Amendment, DOMA, etc.

The only right the state has is to allow a civil union.

where does it say that? I believe the state has full control over that, but I could be wrong, Utah lost the right to marriage as they saw fit

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 10:54 AM

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where does it say that? I believe the state as full control over that, but I could be wrong, Utah lost the right to marriage as they saw fit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Marriage_Amendment

Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-se...l_A mendments

Agent 488 · 08-05-2010, 10:57 AM

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 10:57 AM

Agent, I love your inability to properly post pictures.

directfiesta · 08-05-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

http://www.jewishideas.org/articles/...x-jewish-famil

http://matzav.com/ou-survey-finds-th...ety-as-a-whole

http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/Interma...lancing_1.html

Blah blah you're an idiot as usual.

lol ... still looking for 2% :

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Thus, on the one hand, the percentage of people who are divorced/separated among Jews (9 percent) is lower than that of Mainline Protestants (12 percent), Evangelical Protestants (13 percent), and Catholics (10 percent).

http://www.jewishideas.org/articles/...x-jewish-famil

No time to read all of those great links. Since YOU brought up that 2% shit , maybe YOU should quote your article and supply a link ... genius ...

.. and better non biased source..

BTW, how was the mopping ...

Vendzilla · 08-05-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Marriage_Amendment

Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-se...l_A mendments

Intersting read, thanks for the link

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

lol ... still looking for 2% :

No time to read all of those great links. Since YOU brought up that 2% shit , maybe YOU should quote your article and supply a link ... genius ...

.. and better non biased source..

BTW, how was the mopping ...

Translation: I don't like your sources so I'm going to discount them, and then I'll accuse you of trying to discount mine!

THe mopping? I wouldn't know. I am however trying to figure out how much of my taxes will go to underprivileged individuals such as yourself.

epitome · 08-05-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HeatWaveShawna

the idea of marriage wont be as appealing once you stand in divorce court for the first time...

To have the right to even go into divorce court is what is important.

Many divorce courts are stamped "straights only," which is no different than a bathroom being stamped "whites only."

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

To have the right to even go into divorce court is what is important.

Many divorce courts are stamped "straights only," which is no different than a bathroom being stamped "whites only."

One of the dumbest comparisons ever made. But what do you expect from a moronic liberal who compares slavery and/or oppression of Blacks with same sex civil unions not recognized as marriages.

Edit: Just to dumb it down for you, you're comparing an era where a people weren't recognized as such, to a couple recognized as people AND a civil union, but not a married couple.

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 11:17 AM

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One of the dumbest comparisons ever made. But what do you expect from a moronic liberal who compares slavery and/or oppression of Blacks with same sex civil unions not recognized as marriages.

jesus Demon, get some new fucking material already. It was effective & a little funny at first, but now, every reply you make has the same basic theme: "One of the dumbest comparisons ever made. But what do you expect from a moronic liberal who ____ (fill in the blank)."

it's tired already dude.

Sausage · 08-05-2010, 11:20 AM

So much for the majority vote then

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 11:22 AM

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So much for the majority vote then

What if the majority voted that gays are not legally considered "people"? That be okay too?

cwd · 08-05-2010, 11:24 AM

congrats! I wonder if this is going to be bad for business for this movie...

I think it just came out (see that!) earlier in the summer.

notime · 08-05-2010, 11:29 AM

Holly, you go girl !!

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

jesus Demon, get some new fucking material already. It was effective & a little funny at first, but now, every reply you make has the same basic theme: "One of the dumbest comparisons ever made. But what do you expect from a moronic liberal who ____ (fill in the blank)."

it's tired already dude.

Not as tiresome as "racist, bigot, religious fanatic, murderer", the key words liberals use to evoke emotion because they(you) are incapable of logical thought.

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

What if the majority voted that gays are not legally considered "people"? That be okay too?

Ah yes, when the liberal is confronted with a logical thought, he MUST go to an extreme to prove his point.

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 11:35 AM

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Not as tiresome as "racist, bigot, religious fanatic, murderer", the key words liberals use to evoke emotion because they(you) are incapable of logical thought.

Ok, fuck it. I'm going to just adopt your method.

That's the type of response I would expect from a moronic conservative who can't come up with a single original thought but instead regurgitates the same tired rhetoric over & over.

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 11:37 AM

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Ah yes, when the liberal is confronted with a logical thought, he MUST go to an extreme to prove his point.

Oh, I apologize if I dented your delicate sensibilities.... should I choose a less extreme?

Here we go.... how about if the majority voted that straight people can marry, but can't ever get divorced. No matter what.

Vendzilla · 08-05-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

What if the majority voted that gays are not legally considered "people"? That be okay too?

But they didn't, what they voted on was the discription of what a marriage was, it wasn't taking away any rights, it was preventing new ones

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 11:39 AM

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But they didn't, what they voted on was the discription of what a marriage was, it wasn't taking away any rights, it was preventing new ones

Prop 8 didn't take away their rights? Because I was sure gay marriage WAS legal here before Prop 8.

cwd · 08-05-2010, 11:47 AM

I guess the Libertarians will be happy with this ruling.

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Ok, fuck it. I'm going to just adopt your method.

That's the type of response I would expect from a moronic conservative who can't come up with a single original thought but instead regurgitates the same tired rhetoric over & over.

You've adopted this stance a long time ago, which is why you constantly embarrass yourself. If it's fox news, you don't look at the source. If it's conservative, you ignore it or bash it. The hypocrisy is amusing. I definitely enjoy arguing with intellectual inferiors though. Stick to making galleries.

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

You've adopted this stance a long time ago, which is why you constantly embarrass yourself. If it's fox news, you don't look at the source. If it's conservative, you ignore it or bash it. The hypocrisy is amusing. I definitely enjoy arguing with intellectual inferiors though. Stick to making galleries.

Okay then!

Vendzilla · 08-05-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Prop 8 didn't take away their rights? Because I was sure gay marriage WAS legal here before Prop 8.

Prop 8 was the second time it was voted on, both times voters said no to same sex marriage

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 11:58 AM

Demon, you are my new personal Jesus. I'm going to conjure an image of you every time I pull my pud.

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 11:59 AM

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Prop 8 was the second time it was voted on, both times voters said no to same sex marriage

Interesting, because there were all kinds of gay folks getting married here a while back. Guess they did it all illegally.

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 12:01 PM

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Demon, you are my new personal Jesus. I'm going to conjure an image of you every time I pull my pud.

That's ok, when I'm feeling down I can always look at your posts and realize someone is a lot worse off than myself in every aspect of life.

Amputate Your Head · 08-05-2010, 12:12 PM

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That's ok, when I'm feeling down I can always look at your posts and realize someone is a lot worse off than myself in every aspect of life.

That's true. Sometimes I feel like a newborn tadpole when confronted with your superior intellect, razor sharp wit and iron fisted determination. Would it be okay if I got a tattoo honoring your worship, Princess?

cambaby · 08-05-2010, 12:15 PM

When federal judges and our government ignore the MAJORITY of the people, eventually something is going to break. You guys really dont think you can get away with this shit without repercussions do you? Are you willing to DIE for your fag marriage? Consequences will never be the same.

The Demon · 08-05-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

When federal judges and our government ignore the MAJORITY of the people, eventually something is going to break. You guys really dont think you can get away with this shit without repercussions do you? Are you willing to DIE for your fag marriage? Consequences will never be the same.

Only the ignorant and naive actually believe the Supreme Court will uphold this decision.

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