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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 08-07-2010, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit.

that made my day.

Doug E · 08-07-2010, 02:09 AM

Good excuse for more military spending and filling the pockets of the defense industry. Just scare the paranoid retards into supporting it.

Flip the coin, is China scared the US will invade them? US has a major military presence patrolling outside Chinas waters, do they run around thinking their world is going to end at the hand of 300 million round eyes? What planet are people from where they think a full out war between China and US is possible? Don't want your carriers sunk don't float them so close, wouldn't happen anyway, it's a face thing. US would be fucking pissed if China propped up Cuba and had military bases in the Carribean with full carrier groups off the gulf coast. That's what China has, China isn't worried about it because they live in reality. Their missiles are a simple counterbalance saying 'hey, we're tired of you floating so smug in our traditional sphere of influence, back off a bit.'

This world is so intermingled through our economies the only countries that are targtets of war are the havenots where there's nothing to lose in bombing the shit out of them to fill the pockets of the industrialists and keep the generals blood lust met.

dyna mo · 08-07-2010, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Overload

its not about you - but from what i heard the US owes china 300 BILLION $ ... that IS living on debts, no?

of course it's about me. i make up part of the credit system. if more people lived debt free, then less debt is owed to the creditor.

SallyRand · 08-07-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

welcome to the watch list

Good!

My Dad was on the FBI's watch list during the latter years of the Viet Nam War, so it is just a case of daughter like Father!

I think he would be proud of me!

Sally.

SallyRand · 08-09-2010, 08:44 PM

Oh, Hell!

Thanks for looking.

Sally.

stillsexy · 10-09-2010, 12:53 PM

im not sure if u guys know the US has the largest gold reserve in the world... if the US defaults on all its debt, every US bond holders will suffer big time financially.... no one wants this to happen...

If the US does default, all the debt will be written off, not too bad. With that massive gold reserve, the US can have 2 options:
(1) trade gold for cheap craps from China
(2) launch the WW3, all countries freeze on their FX trade, everyone will trade gold for goods and weapons... the US could potentially emerge as the super nation once again...

PenisFace · 10-09-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit.

An elaborate, well thought out counter argument.

You dumbass.

buyandsell · 10-09-2010, 02:42 PM

can they not use those patriot missile things to shoot this piece of crap down?

alessergod · 10-09-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand

So, keep the carriers 901 miles out.

Red China will not risk the kind of shit that could come down should it attack a US carrier force, especially if that carrier force is operating in the defense of or in copperation with South Korea's forces.

Commies they maybe; they are not stupid.

Sally.

Yep you are right they ain't stupid. But if they really wanted to fuck us all they have to do is dump alll the securities they hold and the economy would really tank.

alessergod · 10-09-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand

Barack Hussein Obama hates the USA and will do anything to undermine its postion as a World power.

Sally.

The republicans are the ones who made the economic policies that made it cheaper to send jobs to china instead of keepong them here. Just look at all the corporations that have juge presences in China. So in essense we gave them the bucks to build their missles.

HeadPimp · 10-09-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

40 years ago China was on the brink of a precipice. With famine, disease and an industry that could hardly function. In less than 40 years selling the West everything it can, we now have the Chinese leaders in a position to dictate to us. We need their money and they do as they please.

Which is exactly the reason they will not attack us. If we stopped importing Chinese products their economy would plummet like and old school lawn dart.

alessergod · 10-09-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HeadPimp

Which is exactly the reason they will not attack us. If we stopped importing Chinese products their economy would plummet like and old school lawn dart.

Maxi · 10-09-2010, 04:41 PM

Chinese can't do shit. The U.S is fighting 2 wars and they could still kick Chinas ass.

The U.S spends more money on its military then the rest of the world combined, they have the most powerful military in the world BY FAR. China will never be a superpower like the U.S.

I was actually neutral towards china until the recent drama they had with Japan, they showed how petty and butthurt they are over the ass kicking they got from Japan 70 years ago.

Japan really needs to drop the pacifist bullshit and remilitarize, because if china is a threat to anyone it's Japan.

A remilitarized Japan will put China in it's place, which is the T shirt factory of the world. No super power there, also people need to stop mentioning India among potential superpowers, what the fuck, they can't even put together a couple of buildings. Everybody's a fucking superpower these days.

directfiesta · 10-09-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Wow, some of the posts here are just ignorant. First, we don't owe china anything.

lol ....

So I chose to take a mortgage at Premium Bank, but I do not owe them anything ..... ????

... lol ....

directfiesta · 10-09-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxi

Chinese can't do shit. The U.S is fighting 2 wars and they could still kick Chinas ass.

The U.S spends more money on its military then the rest of the world combined, they have the most powerful military in the world BY FAR. China will never be a superpower like the U.S.

I was actually neutral towards china until the recent drama they had with Japan, they showed how petty and butthurt they are over the ass kicking they got from Japan 70 years ago.

Japan really needs to drop the pacifist bullshit and remilitarize, because if china is a threat to anyone it's Japan.

A remilitarized Japan will put China in it's place, which is the T shirt factory of the world. No super power there, also people need to stop mentioning India among potential superpowers, what the fuck, they can't even put together a couple of buildings. Everybody's a fucking superpower these days.

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alessergod · 10-09-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

........... do you know how to read?.... Did we go to China and ask them to buy our TB? ...retard.

As I understand it nobody said they did. But irregardless, the owner of TBill is holder of a debt guaranteed by the government of the US.

alessergod · 10-09-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Dept?............more like an investment. They get paid on the interest or penalized if they cash out early. Meaning, if you bought stock in a company would you tell your friends and family that this company owes you money?.........

Second, if the US is such a shitty market why would they invest/risk 28% of their countries profit in another market besides their own?...would you?

I didn't say it was a shitty market. But it is still a debt the treasury owes someone. Sure if the owner holds til maturity they get the valuer of the bill plus the interest. If the holder cashes out early yes they may take a hit depending on how it is traded. But in either case who owes the money to them. That's right, the US Treasury.

alessergod · 10-09-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

well here is where the confusion is and let me explain it in simple terms. If you "invest" in a country or company you have an option to cash out at anytime regardless. That's called an investment. Now, if the country or company goes broke and your investment is gone, then they "owe" you money. In Short, China still has an option.

I have a few hundred Canadian dollars laying around from my last fishing trip..in your thinking, I could say the country of Canada owes me money.

Fuck, ok as i said, china has an investment yes but the US Treasury sold the bonds and must pay on demand, That is one reason the Fuckin Teabagger are complaining the deficit is so high. And what makes up the deficit? Debt owed by the Treasury. And who does the Treasury owe this debt to? The Fucking Bill Holder, whether they collect now or later the Treasury is in hock for the amount of said Bill. Only way they wouldn't owe the orignal holder is if that holder sells to someone else. Then they are in hock to the new owner. I am not disagreeing that China sees it as an investment but the only reason the TBills are sold are to raise funds for the government to operate and are sold with the promise the holder to be paid back.

directfiesta · 10-09-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Dept?............more like an investment. They get paid on the interest or penalized if they cash out early. Meaning, if you bought stock in a company would you tell your friends and family that this company owes you money?.........

Second, if the US is such a shitty market why would they invest/risk 28% of their countries profit in another market besides their own?...would you?

The US did not sell party of the treasury... they borrowed money and gave TB ... I will abstain from calling you names ... no point ....

" We did not force them ... " ... lol .....

Note to myself : call visa tomorrow as they sent me pre-approved cards ..I did not ask for them .. so I owe them nothing ...

Jesus Christ !!!!

theking · 10-09-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

have another drink..

With him you don't know if it is drinking or just some of his ignorance that he frequently displays.

SallyRand · 10-09-2010, 09:44 PM

My 1000th post on GFY is to thank to HELL AND GONE for whoever left me positive rep for my postings in this thread! I cannot see who left it but I know you are out there!

Thanks again!

Sally.

ThunderBalls · 10-10-2010, 12:02 AM

And in the 80's Japan owned half the country, look how that turned out.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 10-10-2010, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand

Good!

My Dad was on the FBI's watch list during the latter years of the Viet Nam War, so it is just a case of daughter like Father!

I think he would be proud of me!

Sally.

Was your daddy also your granddaddy? Maybe brother?

charlie g · 10-10-2010, 01:25 AM

This sounds like pig shit to me too. China owns 800bil in us treasuries.... Japan almost as much ~link~. You do realize that we have spent 3 trillion in bailout/stimulus and pledged a total of 11 trillion ~link~?

The Chinese cant do shit with their lousy 800billion...we can print that for them in a few days.

10-09-2010, 12:53 PM	#56
stillsexy Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,913	im not sure if u guys know the US has the largest gold reserve in the world... if the US defaults on all its debt, every US bond holders will suffer big time financially.... no one wants this to happen... If the US does default, all the debt will be written off, not too bad. With that massive gold reserve, the US can have 2 options: (1) trade gold for cheap craps from China (2) launch the WW3, all countries freeze on their FX trade, everyone will trade gold for goods and weapons... the US could potentially emerge as the super nation once again... __________________

10-09-2010, 04:41 PM	#63
Maxi Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 233	Chinese can't do shit. The U.S is fighting 2 wars and they could still kick Chinas ass. The U.S spends more money on its military then the rest of the world combined, they have the most powerful military in the world BY FAR. China will never be a superpower like the U.S. I was actually neutral towards china until the recent drama they had with Japan, they showed how petty and butthurt they are over the ass kicking they got from Japan 70 years ago. Japan really needs to drop the pacifist bullshit and remilitarize, because if china is a threat to anyone it's Japan. A remilitarized Japan will put China in it's place, which is the T shirt factory of the world. No super power there, also people need to stop mentioning India among potential superpowers, what the fuck, they can't even put together a couple of buildings. Everybody's a fucking superpower these days. Last edited by Maxi; 10-09-2010 at 04:44 PM..

10-09-2010, 09:44 PM	#71
SallyRand So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away! Posts: 3,487	My 1000th post on GFY is to thank to HELL AND GONE for whoever left me positive rep for my postings in this thread! I cannot see who left it but I know you are out there! Thanks again! Sally. Last edited by SallyRand; 10-09-2010 at 09:46 PM..

10-10-2010, 01:25 AM	#74
charlie g Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Center of the Universe Posts: 2,759	This sounds like pig shit to me too. China owns 800bil in us treasuries.... Japan almost as much ~link~. You do realize that we have spent 3 trillion in bailout/stimulus and pledged a total of 11 trillion ~link~? The Chinese cant do shit with their lousy 800billion...we can print that for them in a few days. __________________ AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com -------------------------------

08-07-2010, 02:09 AM	#52
Doug E Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 511	Good excuse for more military spending and filling the pockets of the defense industry. Just scare the paranoid retards into supporting it. Flip the coin, is China scared the US will invade them? US has a major military presence patrolling outside Chinas waters, do they run around thinking their world is going to end at the hand of 300 million round eyes? What planet are people from where they think a full out war between China and US is possible? Don't want your carriers sunk don't float them so close, wouldn't happen anyway, it's a face thing. US would be fucking pissed if China propped up Cuba and had military bases in the Carribean with full carrier groups off the gulf coast. That's what China has, China isn't worried about it because they live in reality. Their missiles are a simple counterbalance saying 'hey, we're tired of you floating so smug in our traditional sphere of influence, back off a bit.' This world is so intermingled through our economies the only countries that are targtets of war are the havenots where there's nothing to lose in bombing the shit out of them to fill the pockets of the industrialists and keep the generals blood lust met.

08-09-2010, 08:44 PM	#55
SallyRand So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away! Posts: 3,487	Oh, Hell! Thanks for looking. Sally.

10-09-2010, 02:42 PM	#58
buyandsell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 692	can they not use those patriot missile things to shoot this piece of crap down?

10-10-2010, 12:02 AM	#72
ThunderBalls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mesosphere Posts: 2,926	And in the 80's Japan owned half the country, look how that turned out.