Hilarious hypocrisy: Janet Napolitano unveils body scanner but doesn't volounteer to use it... - GoFuckYourself.com

MaDalton · 10-25-2010, 11:34 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...litano_do.html

that's why I love politicians - someone should have pushed her and then put the picture on the internet

u-Bob · 10-25-2010, 11:35 AM

the details those scanners show: http://www.prlog.org/10891401-airlin...a-tyranny.html

baddog · 10-25-2010, 11:39 AM

Aren't politicians normally elected?

u-Bob · 10-25-2010, 11:40 AM

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Aren't politicians normally elected?

and that gives them the right to do whatever they want?

MaDalton · 10-25-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Aren't politicians normally elected?

i'm blonde, i don't get your point...

Hitler was elected too, still i'm sure many disapprove of what he did later on

IllTestYourGirls · 10-25-2010, 11:49 AM

I think he is getting at that Janet Napolitano was appointed

Sly · 10-25-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Aren't politicians normally elected?

Elected officials are elected. A politician can simply be anyone involved with party politics.

School superintendents are often elected... not often one considers them a politician. The whole voting thing is not a key element.

baddog · 10-25-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i'm blonde, i don't get your point...

She is not a politician.

baddog · 10-25-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Elected officials are elected. A politician can simply be anyone involved with party politics.

School superintendents are often elected... not often one considers them a politician. The whole voting thing is not a key element.

Being appointed the secretary of HLS does not make you a politician, IMHO.

Sly · 10-25-2010, 11:54 AM

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She is not a politician.

Yes she is.

One could even argue that she is an elected official even though she was appointed. She was elected by default from no argument against her. Plenty of potential Cabinet members were voted out.

u-Bob · 10-25-2010, 11:55 AM

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=politician

Noun
* S: (n) politician (a leader engaged in civil administration)
* S: (n) politician, politico, pol, political leader (a person active in party politics)
* S: (n) politician (a schemer who tries to gain advantage in an organization in sly or underhanded ways)

IllTestYourGirls · 10-25-2010, 11:55 AM

So, how is that Obama thing working out? The left should be OUTRAGED that this is happening.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Sly · 10-25-2010, 11:55 AM

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Being appointed the secretary of HLS does not make you a politician, IMHO.

The Director of Homeland Security helps shape public policy. Hell she can even create legislation and help shepherd it into law. First Ladies even do this.

That isn't a politician?

MaDalton · 10-25-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

She is not a politician.

semantics - you get my point

IllTestYourGirls · 10-25-2010, 11:58 AM

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The Director of Homeland Security helps shape public policy. Hell she can even create legislation and help shepherd it into law. First Ladies even do this.

That isn't a politician?

The problem is she does not need to create legislation to become law, she can just create laws and call them "policies".

Sly · 10-25-2010, 11:58 AM

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the details those scanners show: http://www.prlog.org/10891401-airlin...a-tyranny.html

Holy shit you can see penis. Where are the women's groups on this? I just can't imagine a woman walking through this x-ray machine knowing that some dude behind the monitor is checking out her tits.

kane · 10-25-2010, 12:10 PM

When I first read the title of this thread I thought you were talking about the singer from Concrete Blonde

seeandsee · 10-25-2010, 12:34 PM

ask doctors to use some of med they make, hell no!

Ethersync · 10-25-2010, 12:39 PM

Be sure to vote in the poll...

http://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do?pollCmsUniqueId=20101022_a_closer_look_at_ body_scanners&pollTitle=A+closer+look+at+body+scan ners&pollQuestion=Do+you+approve+of+the+introducti on+of+body+scanners+at+the+nation's+airports%3F&vo teExpirationDate=&option_labels=Yes!+They+will+imp rove+security.;No!+They're+an+invasion+of+privacy! ;I'm+not+sure.&20101022_a_closer_look_at_body_scan ners=2&vote=vote

IllTestYourGirls · 10-25-2010, 12:48 PM

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Be sure to vote in the poll...

http://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do?pollCmsUniqueId=20101022_a_closer_look_at_ body_scanners&pollTitle=A+closer+look+at+body+scan ners&pollQuestion=Do+you+approve+of+the+introducti on+of+body+scanners+at+the+nation's+airports%3F&vo teExpirationDate=&option_labels=Yes!+They+will+imp rove+security.;No!+They're+an+invasion+of+privacy! ;I'm+not+sure.&20101022_a_closer_look_at_body_scan ners=2&vote=vote

Bad link.

The poll questions are bullshit. It does not matter if it improves security, it is clearly against the 4th amendment.

Ethersync · 10-25-2010, 12:59 PM

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Bad link.

The poll questions are bullshit. It does not matter if it improves security, it is clearly against the 4th amendment.

79% of the people who took the poll agree...

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79% No! They're an invasion of privacy!

DaddyHalbucks · 10-25-2010, 01:54 PM

tiger · 10-25-2010, 04:37 PM

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So, how is that Obama thing working out? The left should be OUTRAGED that this is happening.

Most people on the left are outraged from what I have seen. The Obama comment is pretty funny though are you saying that the Maverick would have done anything different?

That scan pic is crazy you can actually see the dude's penis. I can't fucking believe they are going to be allowed to use these machines. How long until you have to step in to the machine and spread your cheeks?

IllTestYourGirls · 10-25-2010, 04:41 PM

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Most people on the left are outraged from what I have seen. The Obama comment is pretty funny though are you saying that the Maverick would have done anything different?

That scan pic is crazy you can actually see the dude's penis. I can't fucking believe they are going to be allowed to use these machines. How long until you have to step in to the machine and spread your cheeks?

Funny you assume that I would want McCain in there rather than Obama.

Bush=McCain=Obama. it really is not rocket science.

So I should see the left marching on Washington and demanding impeachment?

kane · 10-25-2010, 04:44 PM

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So I should see the left marching on Washington and demanding impeachment?

Nope, but you will see them stay home on election day in a few weeks and hand the house and maybe senate back to the republicans.

SZNY · 10-25-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...litano_do.html

that's why I love politicians - someone should have pushed her and then put the picture on the internet

Dont want to see her skeleton, we want boobs and pussy :P

sortie · 10-25-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

someone should have pushed her and then put the picture on the internet

That would have been the biggest viral photoChop session in net hostory.

The Demon · 10-25-2010, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i'm blonde, i don't get your point...

Hitler was elected too, still i'm sure many disapprove of what he did later on

Really? You mean the hundreds of thousands of masses that came to his rallies before and during the War?

spanky · 10-25-2010, 08:36 PM

the question that I keep coming back to is why on earth aren't these body scanner pics a new niche yet?

MaDalton · 10-26-2010, 04:51 AM

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Really? You mean the hundreds of thousands of masses that came to his rallies before and during the War?

sigh....

u-Bob · 10-26-2010, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Bush=McCain=Obama. it really is not rocket science.

q f t

tiger · 10-26-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Funny you assume that I would want McCain in there rather than Obama.

Bush=McCain=Obama. it really is not rocket science.

So I should see the left marching on Washington and demanding impeachment?

I'm not assuming anything, I asked you a question do you think McCain would have done anything different? The people had 2 choices. McCain or Obama. If you are saying that Obama was the wrong choice than you are also saying McCain would have been the better choice. It's really not complicated, you have to pick one or the other thats the way the system works. You can't sit there and tell people that voted for Obama they made the wrong choice and at the same time say you wouldn't have voted for McCain either. I'm not happy with Obama but as bad as things might be I'm fairly sure McCain/Palin would have been even worse.

mrgica · 10-26-2010, 02:07 PM

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the question that I keep coming back to is why on earth aren't these body scanner pics a new niche yet?

hehehe lol

u-Bob · 10-26-2010, 02:16 PM

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I'm not assuming anything, I asked you a question do you think McCain would have done anything different? The people had 2 choices. McCain or Obama.

There's always another option.

2MuchMark · 10-26-2010, 02:38 PM

So they spend all this money but users can opt-out if they don't want to walk thru. I'm pretty sure that you can patted-down anyway regardless of whether or not you use the machine anyway so whats the point?

Also I wonder if they're required to state how much radiation you get from these things?

According to the manufacturer, this particular device exposes you to the same amount of X-rays as flying in an airplane does is therefore safer then actually flying in an airplane as far as radiation exposure goes.

I'm skeptical though because while you are technically exposed to more X-ray radiation (from the sun) when flying, the amount varies depending on the position of the sun, cloud cover, solar flares, etc. There's also the earth's own atmosphere and Magnetosphere that protects us.

I'm pretty sure that these machines are safe for occasional travellers, but what about frequent flyers who have to be exposed to this thing more often?

To me, these machines are yet another useless knee-jerk reaction driven only by fear. I don't think they will do anything to stop air terrorism, and instead only drive up the price of flying and increase the tension of flyers everywhere.

u-Bob · 10-26-2010, 02:40 PM

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So they spend all this money....

Good point.

rowan · 10-26-2010, 04:15 PM

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i'm blonde, i don't get your point...

Hitler was elected too, still i'm sure many disapprove of what he did later on

Speaking of Hitler (every internet argument eventually does), here's an interesting ballot paper... the selection areas for the two choices are vastly different sizes.

Voting ballot from 10 April 1938. The ballot text reads "Do you agree with the reunification of Austria with the German Empire that was enacted on 13 March 1938, and do you vote for the party of our leader Adolf Hitler?," the large circle is labelled "Yes"

gloryholeprincess · 10-26-2010, 07:53 PM

A member of the Democratic Party, she was the 21st Governor of Arizona from 2003 to 2009. She was Arizona's third female governor, and the first woman to win re-election.

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She is not a politician.

fatfoo · 10-26-2010, 09:22 PM

It's like they don't want to use their own supply. Perhaps the xrays are harmful to the body, or something.

DaddyHalbucks · 10-26-2010, 10:11 PM

A good test of whether a politician is a tyrant: their rules and laws only apply to the people --not to them.

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