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Old 11-21-2010, 07:06 PM   #51
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Its funny seeing morons like directfiesta and slutboat type. It definitely reaffirms my belief that I've made the right life decisions.
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Old 11-21-2010, 07:10 PM   #52
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Provide proof he doesn't moron!
You satated that he has .. in post # 10 ...

I understand that you americans have it upside down, like with Iraq :
prove you do not have WMD ....

So if I say I have an elephant in my living room, it is to you to prove that I don't ...

You are so stupid.
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Old 11-21-2010, 07:11 PM   #53
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Its funny seeing morons like directfiesta and slutboat type. It definitely reaffirms my belief that I've made the right life decisions.
Too bad your mother didn't ...
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Old 11-21-2010, 07:19 PM   #54
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You satated that he has .. in post # 10 ...

I understand that you americans have it upside down, like with Iraq :
prove you do not have WMD ....

So if I say I have an elephant in my living room, it is to you to prove that I don't ...

You are so stupid.
Read on SHIT HEAD, I stated that anytime the EX President leaves the country it can and would be considered diplomatic, just like going to Haiti, you're a Bush hating shit head, your favorite president has fucked up everything so all you have is blaming Bush, get over it Moron.

Everyone cries foul how we treat terrorist, fuck them, if I were in charge, I would have buried them in pig shit
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Old 11-21-2010, 07:27 PM   #55
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Read on SHIT HEAD, I stated that anytime the EX President leaves the country it can and would be considered diplomatic, just like going to Haiti, you're a Bush hating shit head, your favorite president has fucked up everything so all you have is blaming Bush, get over it Moron.

Everyone cries foul how we treat terrorist, fuck them, if I were in charge, I would have buried them in pig shit
wow !!!! anger problem ....

But if you stated it , it must then be the truth ...


.. just wonder why he had, in 2006, to change the laws to not be prosecuted on US soil ...

Please state something else ....


Note: seems you would have been a Saddam or Hitler supporter ... I betcha you agree...
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Old 11-21-2010, 07:35 PM   #56
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sure thing...

if he hasn't been taken down yet, he won't be. are you kidding me? englad going to arrest dubya on war crimes? my ass...
exactly.
IF a war criminal EVER sees the inside of a courtroom over it, he's old enough that he probably doesn't even understand whats going on.
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Old 11-21-2010, 07:36 PM   #57
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wow !!!! anger problem ....

But if you stated it , it must then be the truth ...


.. just wonder why he had, in 2006, to change the laws to not be prosecuted on US soil ...

Please state something else ....


Note: seems you would have been a Saddam or Hitler supporter ... I betcha you agree...
Sorry that the common sense eludes you

Change the laws in 2006, WTF are you talking about now, you know the president can't be arrested don't you?

Saddam murdered people
Hitler murdered people
Bush had people water boarded, big fucking difference shit for brains
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Old 11-21-2010, 07:51 PM   #58
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Change the laws in 2006, WTF are you talking about now, you know the president can't be arrested don't you?


here, educated yourself :

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Published on Saturday, September 23, 2006 by the Chicago Sun-Times
Bush Seeks Immunity for Violating War Crimes Act
by Elizabeth Holtzman


Thirty-two years ago, President Gerald Ford created a political firestorm by pardoning former President Richard Nixon of all crimes he may have committed in Watergate -- and lost his election as a result. Now, President Bush, to avoid a similar public outcry, is quietly trying to pardon himself of any crimes connected with the torture and mistreatment of U.S. detainees.

The ''pardon'' is buried in Bush's proposed legislation to create a new kind of military tribunal for cases involving top al-Qaida operatives. The ''pardon'' provision has nothing to do with the tribunals. Instead, it guts the War Crimes Act of 1996, a federal law that makes it a crime, in some cases punishable by death, to mistreat detainees in violation of the Geneva Conventions and makes the new, weaker terms of the War Crimes Act retroactive to 9/11.

Press accounts of the provision have described it as providing immunity for CIA interrogators. But its terms cover the president and other top officials because the act applies to any U.S. national.

Avoiding prosecution under the War Crimes Act has been an obsession of this administration since shortly after 9/11. In a January 2002 memorandum to the president, then-White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales pointed out the problem of prosecution for detainee mistreatment under the War Crimes Act. He notes that given the vague language of the statute, no one could predict what future ''prosecutors and independent counsels'' might do if they decided to bring charges under the act. As an author of the 1978 special prosecutor statute, I know that independent counsels (who used to be called ''special prosecutors'' prior to the statute's reauthorization in 1994) aren't for low-level government officials such as CIA interrogators, but for the president and his Cabinet. It is clear that Gonzales was concerned about top administration officials.

Gonzales also understood that the specter of prosecution could hang over top administration officials involved in detainee mistreatment throughout their lives. Because there is no statute of limitations in cases where death resulted from the mistreatment, prosecutors far into the future, not appointed by Bush or beholden to him, would be making the decisions whether to prosecute.

To ''reduce the threat of domestic criminal prosecution under the War Crimes Act,'' Gonzales recommended that Bush not apply the Geneva Conventions to al-Qaida and the Taliban. Since the War Crimes Act carried out the Geneva Conventions, Gonzales reasoned that if the Conventions didn't apply, neither did the War Crimes Act. Bush implemented the recommendation on Feb. 7, 2002.

A hell of a lot of tip-toe dancing for someone that cannot be prosecuted...

When the Supreme Court recently decided that the Conventions did apply to al-Qaida and Taliban detainees, the possibility of criminal liability for high-level administration officials reared its ugly head again.

What to do? The administration has apparently decided to secure immunity from prosecution through legislation. Under cover of the controversy involving the military tribunals and whether they could use hearsay or coerced evidence, the administration is trying to pardon itself, hoping that no one will notice. The urgent timetable has to do more than anything with the possibility that the next Congress may be controlled by Democrats, who will not permit such a provision to be adopted.

Creating immunity retroactively for violating the law sets a terrible precedent. The president takes an oath of office to uphold the Constitution; that document requires him to obey the laws, not violate them. A president who knowingly and deliberately violates U.S. criminal laws should not be able to use stealth tactics to immunize himself from liability, and Congress should not go along.

Elizabeth Holtzman, a former New York congresswoman, is co-author with Cynthia L. Cooper of The Impeachment of George W. Bush: A Practical Guide for Concerned Citizens.

OK, lets go now ( please check one or all ) :

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-- Idiot
-- Luberil
-- muslim cock sucker
-- american hater
-- terrorist
-- mom's basement

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Old 11-21-2010, 07:52 PM   #59
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Saddam murdered people
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Bush had people water boarded, big fucking difference shit for brains
.. and who got the 4000 US troops and 100K civilians in Iraq killed ....
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Sorry that the common sense eludes you

Change the laws in 2006, WTF are you talking about now, you know the president can't be arrested don't you?

Saddam murdered people
Hitler murdered people
Bush had people water boarded, big fucking difference shit for brains
LOL

I gave you this link before that tells you why he wouldn't have diplomatic immunity any time he leaves the country: http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/ins...s/9_1_1961.pdf

He has to be going on a diplomatic mission, sight seeing isn't a diplomatic mission, neither is promoting a book. Instead of reading the link and learning you just kept going based on shit you made up - are you serious man?

Can't you at least read when given information or are you so thick skulled that even facts shown to you are ignored in favor of some false ideology of who you are and what you are defending. This guy is a war criminal. He is equal to Hitler. He started a war based on facts that were false leading to the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. What you are saying is you either support what people like Hitler did or believe that for some reason Arabs being killed aren't worth mentioning and deserve no rights. In that case you would be an anti-Semitic racist. Which one is it?
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So, does that " diplomatic immunity " only applies to US presidents ?

Or does it applies as well to the UK prime minister , the Italian PM .... and does it apply worldwide ?
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You satated that he has .. in post # 10 ...

I understand that you americans have it upside down, like with Iraq :
prove you do not have WMD ....

So if I say I have an elephant in my living room, it is to you to prove that I don't ...
You are so stupid.
Good God thanks for reminding me that I passed your level of intelligence at 13.
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Whether you believe that Bush deserves to be arrested as a "war criminal" or not........ you cannot seriously believe that it is going to happen. Try to imagine the diplomatic firestorm that would ensue if he was arrested by a NATO member state......... the unwinding of longstanding alliances and defense agreements, a total and sudden breakdown of Europe's defense arrangements, massive trade embargoes, a complete breakdown of the current global strategic order........ it is just not going to happen. You may wish that it would happen, but too many politicians (as well as the rest of us) have way too much to lose to allow something of that magnitude to take place.
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here, educated yourself :




OK, lets go now ( please check one or all ) :

-- Moron
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-- american hater
-- terrorist
-- mom's basement

I love guys pretending to be smart.
Son, if you understood the Geneva convention, you'd know Bush has nothing to worry about.
Now off to bed with you, you're real job is only hours away and you mom might not wake you up if you over sleep
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LOL

I gave you this link before that tells you why he wouldn't have diplomatic immunity any time he leaves the country: http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/ins...s/9_1_1961.pdf

He has to be going on a diplomatic mission, sight seeing isn't a diplomatic mission, neither is promoting a book. Instead of reading the link and learning you just kept going based on shit you made up - are you serious man?

Can't you at least read when given information or are you so thick skulled that even facts shown to you are ignored in favor of some false ideology of who you are and what you are defending. This guy is a war criminal. He is equal to Hitler. He started a war based on facts that were false leading to the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. What you are saying is you either support what people like Hitler did or believe that for some reason Arabs being killed aren't worth mentioning and deserve no rights. In that case you would be an anti-Semitic racist. Which one is it?
Your premises equals pigshit.
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Your premises equals pigshit.
Right because that means something exactly? Way to argue your point as usual, theking.
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Right because that means something exactly? Way to argue your point as usual, theking.
I do not have the inclination to argue with people that make ridiculous statements. Ridiculous statements equals pigshit...and I identify them as such.
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It's pretty obvious this Moe kid is on the same intellectual level as slutboat.
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Well... not for long mate, maybe you should keep up with the news. When I say news I mean real news unlike that entertainment driven propaganda crap news channels you guys get over there.

Im sure Bush won't get arrested but its good to see no one arguing that hes not a war criminal at least.
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I don't think waterboarding is torture. I think it's not much different than when water runs up your nose when your swimming underwater.

There's a book called Bravo Two Zero written by a SAS officer that details his torture in Iraq in 1991. If you want to know what torture is, you need to read this book. Over a two week period this guy had his teeth bashed out one at a time by a rifle butt. And that was the start of his worries.
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I don't think waterboarding is torture. I think it's not much different than when water runs up your nose when your swimming underwater.

There's a book called Bravo Two Zero written by a SAS officer that details his torture in Iraq in 1991. If you want to know what torture is, you need to read this book. Over a two week period this guy had his teeth bashed out one at a time by a rifle butt. And that was the start of his worries.
False. He said that is what happened. There was no evidence of that and the Red Cross examined him and said that it didn't happen.

"According to McNab, the four captured patrol members (McNab, Pring, MacGown and the wounded Coburn) were moved numerous times, enduring torture and interrogation at each successive location.[90] According to MacGown however, "incidents such as teeth extraction and burning with a heated spoon did not happen. It is inconceivable that any such incidents could have occurred without them being discussed or being physically obvious."[91] News footage of MacGown and Pring taken at the time of their release on March 5, showed no evidence of any facial injuries and the members were described as 'in good shape' by a Red Cross representative.[13]"

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Well... not for long mate, maybe you should keep up with the news. When I say news I mean real news unlike that entertainment driven propaganda crap news channels you guys get over there.

Im sure Bush won't get arrested but its good to see no one arguing that hes not a war criminal at least.
Sure mate, don't hold your breath.

Hey, watch out for those riots over college tuition.
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Political SUICIDE??? NOBODY in this country would give a flying fuck if Bush was jailed - Not the Congress, not the Republicans, Not the Tea Party, not even Dick Cheney would care - the whole world would cheer and there would be zero downside....

Worst President in history - most hated man in the world (by far) and the biggest embarrassment to this nation since slavery - and you think it would be political suicide.

Just when I think you can't possibly get any more monumentally wrong Vendzilla - you surprise me.
News flash..Republicans freed the slaves. BTW, George W. Bush's book is #1 on N.Y. Times Best Seller List. http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/overview.html
He certainly isn't THAT hated by MOST people.
As for worse President, that's VERY debatable.
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Vendzilla - you can't possibly know the satisfaction I received after coming home tonight from my night on the town - (sushi, patron margaritas, bj in the car) to find that you have wasted your entire day writing elaborate posts and yelling at my friends... FUCK did you just put a big smile on my face...I love you for that
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Bush was a shit awful corrupt fuck for a president, and I don't like him much for it. As a person I'm pretty sure I could rip lines and drink scotch with him all night, and he'd probably have me cracking up nonstop. Sometimes the shit he does/says just puts a smile on your face.


Sometimes I feel sorry for Obama, everybody hating on him when he isn't really responsible for much of the shit he's been handed. He just sort of inherited a shit situation.
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Vendzilla - you can't possibly know the satisfaction I received after coming home tonight from my night on the town - (sushi, patron margaritas, bj in the car) to find that you have wasted your entire day writing elaborate posts and yelling at my friends... FUCK did you just put a big smile on my face...I love you for that
its funny watching bottom rungers give away their position in life by what they brag about as a big night out.



I guess we shouldn't really hold our breath for the slutboat's next (lets pretend there was a first) voyage, eh?
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