Why didn't Blu-ray porn take off?

[Bruno Cunha]

People who buy dvd porn dont like hd quality? Tubes killed Blu-ray's?

[CPA37710T]

coz they're more concerned on 3D porn rather than blu ray... plus people knows real money its on onlind HD porn, not really on blu rays.. at least thats my point of view

[Nautilus]

Most porn sold as "blu-rays" isn't actually up to blu-ray standard because of lower then necessary equipment quality, and consumers quickly figured that out. Read surfers boards, they're all mocking porn "blu-rays" as sub par in terms of quality.

No wonder, since hi-end HD cameras that are necessary to shoot quality blu-ray video are still way out of price range for most porn studios.

[djroof]

people hasnt blue ray players!

[Quentin]

Perhaps, when it comes to things like wrinkles, cellulite, genital warts, scarring, etc... there is such a thing as too high-res? ;-)

Joking aside, I think it has less to do with porn being ill-suited for high resolution viewing, and more to do with the notion of "good enough technology." Wired ran a pretty solid piece on this consumer mindset a couple years back.

Here's one of the crucial points made in the article. (The person being quoted in this paragraph is Clay Shirky, a of new media studies professor at NYU.)

"There comes a point at which improving upon the thing that was important in the past is a bad move," Shirky said in a recent interview. "It's actually feeding competitive advantage to outsiders by not recognizing the value of other qualities." In other words, companies that focus on traditional measures of quality?fidelity, resolution, features?can become myopic and fail to address other, now essential attributes like convenience and shareability. And that means someone else can come along and drink their milk shake.

It's worth taking a few minutes to read the full article.

[Nautilus]

Originally Posted by Quentin

Perhaps, when it comes to things like wrinkles, cellulite, genital warts, scarring, etc... there is such a thing as too high-res? ;-)

Those who think like that, do not seek for blu-ray porn. But those who do want higher resolution are usually very dissappointed when they find out that blu-ray porn manufacturers decided to spare them from viewing too much wrinkles.

[djroof]

give free BR players!!!

[CaptainHowdy]

There so much great stuff on Blu-ray, why ruin it??

[scuba steve]

blu rays are too pricey in mainstream, i'm sure they would be much more in porn

[Xer0]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

Most porn sold as "blu-rays" isn't actually up to blu-ray standard because of lower then necessary equipment quality, and consumers quickly figured that out. Read surfers boards, they're all mocking porn "blu-rays" as sub par in terms of quality.

No wonder, since hi-end HD cameras that are necessary to shoot quality blu-ray video are still way out of price range for most porn studios.

What he said ^

Plus 3D is the only way to push blu-ray, because the difference between 480p and 1080p content isn't enough for consumers to go all blu-ray.

[videobunch]

All the studios I have talked all say price.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by djroof

people hasnt blue ray players!

want to try that again in english?

[notime]

Various reasons did in my opinion;

-The battle between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray took a long time and it made consumers wait (too) long.
-HD-DVD could have been produced by any DVD-plant with a small 50K adjustment to their existing machines, instead of buying new 2 Million dollar machines to replicate them. This drove the production and sales prices up by factor 10 or 20.
-Economy went down in that period and people chose normal dvds over the expensive blu-ray's.
-Less creditcards in the market, less credit and less spending by consumers.
-HD TV channels/broadcasting and HD VOD started around the same period on all cable providers, set-topbox providers and satellite providers, next to the internet offering HD now also.
-Numbers of stores are decreasing worldwide, in retail and rental both (adult and non-adult). Less outlets means less sales, therefore also less Blu-ray would be sold by distributors.
-Credit insurance companies and factoring companies don't insure the (offline) DVD business anymore (adult AND mainstream). No dvd plant, distributor, wholesaler or retailers will they accept as a client or insure them.
-For adult, the image quality might be TOO sharp and users see the emphasized zips and details, which is nice if you are watching BBC's documentairy "Earth", but not an xxx movie for many users.
-Internet, mobile and TV wiped out the DVD business, it's done. It's on life support currently. Maybe 1 year to go or 3 max for some bigger studios maybe, if they have good sales, high prices AND a good brand with a big fanbase. But after these 3 years, I think it's over and out like betamax, vhs etc. saw happen before also.

[Scott McD]

Has Blu-Ray taken off in general?

Other than people who own PS3's, i don't actually know anyone who has bought a Blu-Ray player...

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Has Blu-Ray taken off in general?

Other than people who own PS3's, i don't actually know anyone who has bought a Blu-Ray player...

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[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Has Blu-Ray taken off in general?

Other than people who own PS3's, i don't actually know anyone who has bought a Blu-Ray player...

you need to get out of trailer park more often then.

[Bruno Cunha]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

Most porn sold as "blu-rays" isn't actually up to blu-ray standard because of lower then necessary equipment quality, and consumers quickly figured that out. Read surfers boards, they're all mocking porn "blu-rays" as sub par in terms of quality.

No wonder, since hi-end HD cameras that are necessary to shoot quality blu-ray video are still way out of price range for most porn studios.

that's true!

[Mr Happy]

Originally Posted by Bruno Cunha

that's true!

Bullshit... Blu-ray is 15Mbps to 35Mbps

The SONY EX1 is full true HD 1920x1080P with three 1/2 inch chips. 35Mbps
Shoots well above Blu-ray quality.

I have encoded a Blu-ray from the SONY EX1 and it is just as clean, clear and sharp as any mainstream Blu-ray product
89% of porn shooters do NOT know how to use a camera like the EX1, http://www.dvinfo.com will educate you though.
Also the Sony EX1 records so much information, you must know how to grade in post, same as shooting with a 4k or higher video camera like the RED

[Cherry7]

Blu-ray looks great, it is cinema quality in the home.

Most porn is produced on non professional cameras and this does not show in on the internet where even "HD" is a poorer quality than proper standard TV. All to do with the bitrate, the amount of info and not the resolution.

We also find the Sony EX1 produces great HD pictures, but it has to be lit properly, focus becomes critical, need good assistant to pull focus, good sound person to place the mic in the right place, and get the sound level right. A good make up artist who can powder up spot on bums etc also important...

The blu ray look really good, not as good as mainstream Hollywood product - not by a long way... The color, contrast, lighting, etc as vastly better on a mainstream film. This is due to have in crew of a hundred instead of 3 !

Shooting on the highest quality possible also improves the quality of the wmv and DVD made from the film. We find that a DVD made from the HD master shown on a DVD player that upscales looks very good (The higher the bitrate for the DVD the better )

We would say that the best quality possible on the internet at the moment is to supply DVD images for punters to buy....http://erotiquedvd.com

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

No wonder, since hi-end HD cameras that are necessary to shoot quality blu-ray video are still way out of price range for most porn studios.

Good luck to them affording a decent 3D set up.

[vsex]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Good luck to them affording a decent 3D set up.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...sony-3d-camera

2nd camera in vid, $1500. Comes out in April. I checked it out while I was at the show. Amazing quality!

[HomerSimpson]

I blame the tubez

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by GatorB

you need to get out of trailer park more often then.

But i like it here ??

I suppose i haven't probably asked anyone else, as most my friends are on PS3 so that's why i know we all have one.

Just never really heard anyone else mention it, that's all...

[closer]

If a customer can buy the DVD version for $29.99 or the BR version for $49.99, what would he do? I don't think (poor) BR quality is all that important for porn, who wants to see skin details and imperfections...

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Mr Happy

Bullshit... Blu-ray is 15Mbps to 35Mbps

The SONY EX1 is full true HD 1920x1080P with three 1/2 inch chips. 35Mbps
Shoots well above Blu-ray quality.

I have encoded a Blu-ray from the SONY EX1 and it is just as clean, clear and sharp as any mainstream Blu-ray product
89% of porn shooters do NOT know how to use a camera like the EX1, http://www.dvinfo.com will educate you though.
Also the Sony EX1 records so much information, you must know how to grade in post, same as shooting with a 4k or higher video camera like the RED

Great camera. We have been using it for awhile now
ds

[V_RocKs]

Not worth the investment by the production house or the end user.

[Bruno Cunha]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

Most porn sold as "blu-rays" isn't actually up to blu-ray standard because of lower then necessary equipment quality, and consumers quickly figured that out. Read surfers boards, they're all mocking porn "blu-rays" as sub par in terms of quality.

No wonder, since hi-end HD cameras that are necessary to shoot quality blu-ray video are still way out of price range for most porn studios.

I sent you an email.

[bronco67]

Doesn't everyone want to just see truly hot porn? Well shot with hot girls and great sex...I'd rather see 32o by 240 crappy compression Jules Jordan or John Leslie video, as opposed to some mediocre scenes in HD or 3D.

As a surfer or porn watcher, all I care about is the quality of the smut itself, not what format its on. If its good porn, then the HD is a bonus.

Does anyone ever think of the root quality of a product, instead of what gimmicks will pump up their crappy run of the mill smut?

[2MuchMark]

Blu ray was too late. More users watch porn on their PC's instead of TV's. Instant access to anything you want is just much more interesting and convenient.

[BlackCrayon]

people don't need their porn to be such high quality. buying porn in general is down, especially phsyical discs...the way most porn is shot you probably wouldn't even see the difference between a dvd and blu ray anyways.

[Cherry7]

When I look at porn I feel very disappointed when there is a hot girl, but all I can see is a fuzzy wide shot, no close ups, no editing, so even a hot scene, is boring....Just cant see the action, never get a good close of the girls face, or pussy....

Of course the bitrate or the format, or the way it is put together is not as important as a really HOT scene, but when you have the hot scene how great it looks if it is shot well....

[Davy]

Who needs Blue Ray, anyway.

[JustDaveXxx]

Too expensive to produce the actual discs and as a result of the higher production costs, the consumer get charged that much more for the same adult content product.

Price is the killer.

[Cherry7]

The price will fall, baudrates will increase, and the higher quality product will last longer....

Thats why you can see films from the 1930s and very little TV before 1970.....

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Doesn't everyone want to just see truly hot porn? Well shot with hot girls and great sex...I'd rather see 32o by 240 crappy compression Jules Jordan or John Leslie video, as opposed to some mediocre scenes in HD or 3D.

As a surfer or porn watcher, all I care about is the quality of the smut itself, not what format its on. If its good porn, then the HD is a bonus.

Does anyone ever think of the root quality of a product, instead of what gimmicks will pump up their crappy run of the mill smut?

stole my words.
people get stuff taped with a camera phone, if it looks hot/authentic.

Think Woodman, who made multimillion-budget movies, great locations, best crew etc, BUT made most of its fame/money out of stuff done in a cheap hotel room with a hand-held camera.

[CamTraffic]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

The price will fall, baudrates will increase, and the higher quality product will last longer....

Thats why you can see films from the 1930s and very little TV before 1970.....

baudrates ?

[Inter-Sex]

Originally Posted by CamTraffic

baudrates ?

Not that i've heard from it before but have found this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baud

~ Renaldo,

[HardlinkSells]

My family owns a sex store. Last months figures were approximately 3000 dvds and around 125 blu rays lol

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by closer

If a customer can buy the DVD version for $29.99 or the BR version for $49.99, what would he do? I don't think (poor) BR quality is all that important for porn, who wants to see skin details and imperfections...

I have a chuckle when I see the trade show pictures pop up on GFY and you can see the cottage cheese and ingrown hairs on the models attending. People are used to seeing them airbrushed or in lowdef porn.

[inthecrack]

Why buy one BR video for $50 when you can buy an entire website of videos for $30?

[PromoterX]

Why would I want to see tit surgical scars and razer burn in blu-ray quality AND pay through the nose for the privilege?

Shudder.