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experienced adult PHP programmer available $1800 p/ month
Hello , we have an experienced programmer ready to work full time ( 8 hours per day ) on a monthly basis for $1800 per month.
He has 8 years of experience in PHP and 2 in the adult industry. Anybody interested let me know !
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long time no see Jey P. u will have some competition from the Philippines tho lol.
all seriousness, Jey P you do some great design work. not sure i've seen your programming tho?
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Hi Man !!!! Thanks for the compliments
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Oh hey, it's that seriously good looking dude from South America again!
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he looks like johnny depps colombian business partner in Blow lol
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Where do you pulling all those programmers
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We are a company based in Buenos Aires , Argentina . We are online since 2004 constantly providing programmers and designers to our beloved adult industry
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I want a pic !!!!!!!!!!
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Does this guy have java skills as well ? Any experience in games ?
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what sites has he worked on? lets see some of his work.
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I know, right? How hot is that guy?
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bump for ya
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We can talk about that by skype or email since some of the work he did had some NDA signed
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Good luck selling programming.
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I do not understand how people can scream about "theft" and such, but $1800 for a full time programmer with 8 years experience seems to be ok. If you hire a full time programmer for that money then you deserve it to be stollen from!
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On the other hand, if the same people build this page http://www.idsadult.com/adult-programmers.html (and linked) then it's probably overpaid!
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And btw do you have anyone available for project basis ?
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huh??????????
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I think he means you had a problem on that page earlier today, with the page all fucked up, now it seems fixed
anyway, I might be needing something extended in time (ie every day) but not 8 hours, just maybe 1 hour a day at most, probably not even that (eg some days he may need to answer one request and some days nothing). Basically a tech savvy guy who can provide some support on our scripts in a forum. Could you do that? If so, please send me a quote to webmaster + fdsign + com
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I do not understand why you guys keep supporting the "tube sites" of my profession. There is no way an honest programmer, who would like to have a normal meal at least once a day also, can compete with this (not even mentioning the $5 or less an hour from India you see these days). A fucking power coder for just about $10, and that does not ring any bells??? PS, maybe the mods should move this to the theft forum or whats its name.
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In that case, hire the dude. Ignorance is bliss?
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Have any tube updaters?
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1) Most coders I know BEG to make $1800 a month. I know many coders that charge high rates per hour but they're always trying to get a client, because they get no work 2) $1800 isn't top money, but it's pretty decent in many countries. Even in Europe. 3) $1800 in Argentina is a decent income, but once the outsourcing company gets their slice, it isn't a good salary, so I know I won't get the super coder with the super service. But, for what I need him/her, it's enough. On the other hand, Argentina's coders are rated between the best in the world and because of that, there was a lot of work and high salaries for them. Thus, everybody tried to become a coder and now there are way too many coders. Now I can get a computer engineer for $1800, as simple as that, so their price isn't out of this world nor too low Anyway, like I said last week in a similar thread: just provide a good service trying to keep your prices competitive and clients will come alone... after paying the magic outsourcing company that charges 1/5 of your rate (or less) and then get empty handed as usual.
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That makes a lot of sense and thanks also for your post. IMHO the programmer gets cheated, even if he lives in Argentina. I was checking for the salaries here in Europe (where I'm based) and I can assure you, for that money it's even hard to find a junior developer, let alone an experienced one. The biggest issue with all these companies is that you and me have to prove ourselves over and over again because they fuck up the market. Not only in terms of rates, but just giving coders/designers and the likes a bad reputation because they cant deliver what has been agreed on. AFAIK there is even a lot of caution mentioned in one of the GFY educational posts. I'm in the process of moving from being an in-house developer with a decent fixed salary to a freelancer. I practically have to work for free to even get noticed. So for now I stopped that (I probably try again soon) because I really had to get some food on the table. But listen, I understand that you have to start "low", even if you are already experienced. I would not mind to work for $10 to $15 per hour on a small project (one to two weeks) just to give the client confidence in my experience and such. But it has to come from both sides. But I do not get the impression that the OP had that in mind. Anyway, "you get what you pay for" … sometimes
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Listen buddy, whatever you come up with, if you pay an experienced programmer $1800 p/m then you are a cheap and cheating bastard. Or you lie about his experience of you fuck the dude over. But you are so confident about yourself, tell your guys about this thread. Or even better, send them over here, they can make 4 to 5 times what you pay them to start with, you cheating dickhead.
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Our guys love their job and the environment is awesome. Guys at McDonalds are earning around $800 so I don't think they would like to go to work there ![]() Argentina is now a great place to live ![]()
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Oh and yeah, before I forget
- started programming on my 13th (I'm 41 now) - been working fulltime as a software and web developer for the biggest scientific agency here in Europe for 16 years now - Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL, PL/SQL, SQL, PHP, HTML, XML, CSS, JSP, Java, JS, VB, VBS, etc, etc, etc So yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about? Last but not least ![]()
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your comments here are bordering on bannable. you cannot slander someone's business without proof, and you slandered his business here calling him a cheating bastard. show a little respect ass clown. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Why do I have to know him to recognize a cheap bastard? Do you know all tube site owners that steal your content and rip you off?
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And about proof, read his first post. An experience programmer for $1800 a month is proof enough that this stinks. So ban me? please do. It's probably better for my health. Thats exactly what I want fuck face. Get a clue!
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The facts are the facts. Western coders simply will not work for 2nd and 3rd tier country rates, and are endlessly being undercut by these guys. This causes a source of frustration, and western coders equate more money for them with a better product. I have hired coders from all over the world, including U.S. and Canada. I can tell you from 10+ years of experience, while there are 'some' quality coders who meet all of their commitments (project, cost projections, delivery times), rarely is one any better than the other overall. Those in the U.S. blow deadlines just like those in UK, Poland, India and use the same excuses. While I do not fault you for trying to get more money, and thinking that quality always comes with a higher price tag. That is not always the case. It comes down to the cost of living of that coder, and more often times than not, being undercut by Russians, or Paki's who do comparable work for a lower price. |
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![]() to give you some examples of our cost of living : - a nice apt with 1 room in a OK neighborhood : $300-400 - meal at macdonalds : $4-6 - ok restaurant dinner for 2 people : $25 salaries : - doorman's building : $700-1300 - government employee: $1000-1500 - bus driver: $900 - macdonalds employee: $800 ( these are approx numbers of course ) THE Cost of living is still cheap compared to 1st world countries now this thread became on a thread about Argentina LOL ![]()
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the only thing that matters is i have worked with Jey P and you haven't. so there's only one of us who knows whether he is a "cheating bastard" as you keep saying. the other one is slandering his business.
you were pissed that he didnt praise your almighty work at finding an HTML bug and then you went on and on about how you are overqualified and programmers should be paid top dollar. the longer this goes on, the more clueless you look. you've never heard of outsourcing? i've paid much less than 1800US a month for a programmer and he did work that would make your bosses question why they overpay you.
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The fact that you keep hiring these guys even though you know that good, honest and qualified people get extremely underpaid makes you are real hero. And in the mean time you want me to work for free.
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So what is your cut from $1800? Let's say you take a third, that leaves him $1200 before tax. I have no idea what the tax is at your country but let's assume it another third. That leaves him with about $800. $300-$400 for his apartment so he still has $400-500 left. - 2 kids going to school - health insurance for his wive, 2 kids and himself - dental cost for the 2 kids - water, electricity, gas - shoes, clothes for the family - his own educational cost like, books, internet, etc, just to keep up - travel expenses, etc - he tries to save a little for vacations with his kids - pension, so he and his wife do not have to work till they die - etc Is it still a fair salary? Even in Argentina?
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Are you serious here or are you just try to be as ignorant as possible?
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This thread only confirms what I intuited long time ago: most programmers grow bitterly ...
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