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Old 04-04-2012, 12:16 PM   #151
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Yeah, these people have no clue how insane this shit is. It's totally normal to them. Scary really. Something very wrong with that country.
To each his own I'm just glad I don't live in a society of fear ;)
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And conversely, I find it bizarre that people would submit to a situation where only the government had weapons, and that citizens had no means to stand up to possible oppression, and where you would simply have to wait around for however long the police took to show up, in order to then protect you from the person in your house or attaching you. The blind reliance on some outside government agency to protect and defend you, especially as history has shown over and over and over again, that governments tend to do the opposite after they reach a certain level of control, is just unfathomable to me.


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no offense but really i laugh thinking about all the business guys in ties having to turn over their weapons while being escorted out of the city in thier corvette or 250k RV LOL I see it every hurricane. LOL Got an arsenal of weapons at home but when hurricane comes they evacuate like its a vacation in a 200k RV LOL sure theese are rvolutionaries!!! hahah

people talk like they will form a militia and fight the government, but as we see constantly no, if shit really hit the fan youd be buying the first flight out of new york or wherever the war is starting and would not be in a revolution.

i am not trying to insult anyone, its just hilarious thinking about all this wehn instantly in a real life situation you wont even be allowed to be outside after 6 pm let alone patrol your streets with weapons LOl (they declare 6pm curfew during hurricane, you arrested if you out after 6 pm)

I can see everyone packing their gucci and versacci suits to get out of town quickly, that whole be rambo shit dies down quick when reality hits (soldiers with machine guns pointed at you) - when they approach you, they ask if you have weapons, you answer yes they already have weapons on you. You dont comply, what you think happens? lol need i spell it out?

as i said, in normal civilian times yeah you walk around supermarket feeling tough, but really, if shit broke out, none of you would be in any revolution, youd be evacuated and be sitting in a hotel in another state. hehehe
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When you've been involved in a home invasion where dudes came into your house with guns, you start to understand why people want to own weapons. This issue is the reason I can't get along with liberals any better than I can conservatives.

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no offense but really i laugh thinking about all the business guys in ties having to turn over their weapons while being escorted out of the city in thier corvette or 250k RV LOL I see it every hurricane. LOL Got an arsenal of weapons at home but when hurricane comes they evacuate like its a vacation in a 200k RV LOL sure theese are rvolutionaries!!! hahah

people talk like they will form a militia and fight the government, but as we see constantly no, if shit really hit the fan youd be buying the first flight out of new york or wherever the war is starting and would not be in a revolution.

i am not trying to insult anyone, its just hilarious thinking about all this wehn instantly in a real life situation you wont even be allowed to be outside after 6 pm let alone patrol your streets with weapons LOl (they declare 6pm curfew during hurricane, you arrested if you out after 6 pm)

I can see everyone packing their gucci and versacci suits to get out of town quickly, that whole be rambo shit dies down quick when reality hits (soldiers with machine guns pointed at you) - when they approach you, they ask if you have weapons, you answer yes they already have weapons on you. You dont comply, what you think happens? lol need i spell it out?

as i said, in normal civilian times yeah you walk around supermarket feeling tough, but really, if shit broke out, none of you would be in any revolution, youd be evacuated and be sitting in a hotel in another state. hehehe
When martial law is declared because of a natural disaster it is not the intent of the government to be "oppressive" per se. It is the intent of the government to "protect and serve"...thus it is not a revolutionary scenario. As for the actions of police...there are bad cops on virtually any force in the nation and New Orleans has a history of having a high number of bad cops on its force.
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When you've been involved in a home invasion where dudes came into your house with guns, you start to understand why people want to own weapons. This issue is the reason I can't get along with liberals any better than I can conservatives.

From my cold, dead hands, motherfucker.
See that's why I'm glad I live in a decent area where I don't have to worry about these things ;))))
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When you've been involved in a home invasion where dudes came into your house with guns, you start to understand why people want to own weapons. This issue is the reason I can't get along with liberals any better than I can conservatives.

From my cold, dead hands, motherfucker.
Right and in the meantime more accidents happen with guns than people needing them to protect their homes. You people are total retards.

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When you've been involved in a home invasion where dudes came into your house with guns, you start to understand why people want to own weapons. This issue is the reason I can't get along with liberals any better than I can conservatives.

From my cold, dead hands, motherfucker.
in a country where guns are prevalent i guess you gotta have one to keep up. in canada, despite many hunting guns break ins involving guns is pretty rare and when it does happen its usually people robbing drug houses or something similar.
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Walking with a gun in a supermarket. Seriously, i just cannot get over it. It's insane! Totally fucking insane! In case you wonder why the whole world thinks Americans are retards, you can thank people like Aaronm for that. White trash in its purest form.
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See that's why I'm glad I live in a decent area where I don't have to worry about these things ;))))
Oh please. This happened in a nice suburban area where everyone had 2.5 kids and walked their dog each morning. It was a case of mistaken identity, a fluke, and it could happen to anyone.
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Right and in the meantime more accidents happen with guns than people needing them to protect their homes. You people are total retards.
Go choke on the wrong end of a 12 gauge, monkey boy.
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Right and in the meantime more accidents happen with guns than people needing them to protect their homes. You people are total retards.

Not true.

Actually almost 2.5 MILLION crimes are averted by the presence of a lawful firearm in the hands of a citizen per year.


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Not true.

Actually almost 2.5 MILLION crimes are averted by the presence of a lawful firearm in the hands of a citizen per year.


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Fact is your retard country has a huge gun problem because off all the retards walking around with guns crying about self protection. But hey, know what, i don't care. Actually i like it. Your country cannot have enough guns and responsible gun owners with guns in supermarkets. I love it!

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I bet you are a real responsible gun owner!
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FWIW, I am 100% on ArronMs side...

If he has the legal right to carry a weapon, and chooses to legally do so... Why not?

I cant carry a weapon here in the UK, but if I had the choice to legally do so, I would...

PS: I would also approach the store for some recompense as well...
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considering your history of going ballistic and being kicked out of subway shops for your behavior it is a good thing you cannot carry there.

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FWIW, I am 100% on ArronMs side...

If he has the legal right to carry a weapon, and chooses to legally do so... Why not?

I cant carry a weapon here in the UK, but if I had the choice to legally do so, I would...

PS: I would also approach the store for some recompense as well...
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FWIW, I am 100% on ArronMs side...

If he has the legal right to carry a weapon, and chooses to legally do so... Why not?

I cant carry a weapon here in the UK, but if I had the choice to legally do so, I would...

PS: I would also approach the store for some recompense as well...
Sure, why not. What could be more safe than 10 people walking around with a gun in the supermarket.
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considering your history of going ballistic and being kicked out of subway shops for your behavior it is a good thing you cannot carry there.


Fair point, but even to this very day, I still feel that I was badly treated for simply daring to ask a member of staff, how much my sandwich was going to cost!

I mean... How very dare I ?
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Sure, why not. What could be more safe than 10 people walking around with a gun in the supermarket.
Well, in the UK guns are illegal. I'm not gonna state that NO ONE has a gun... Of course 'some' people do... However thats a 'Black Market' type thing, thats more than likely in London, or a bigger city, compared to were I live... (A sleepy seaside town)

My logic is just that if just 'ANYONE' could be carrying a gun, and quite easily be able to get one, (ie there were gunshops etc) then YES... I would follow suit...

In otherwords, if it were legal to carry a gun, then by default, more people WOULD have guns, and I would not wish to be at a disadvantage, should push come to shove...
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That would be an extremely safe bet.
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That would be an extremely safe bet.
Ofcourse. I never ever met a nonresposible gun owner.
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FWIW, I am 100% on ArronMs side...

If he has the legal right to carry a weapon, and chooses to legally do so... Why not?

I cant carry a weapon here in the UK, but if I had the choice to legally do so, I would...

PS: I would also approach the store for some recompense as well...
you do have a weapon throw some turds
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If he has the legal right to carry a weapon, and chooses to legally do so... Why not?

I cant carry a weapon here in the UK, but if I had the choice to legally do so, I would...

PS: I would also approach the store for some recompense as well...
aren't you drunk most of the time?

a perfect candidate for a gun?

gotta agree with Frank, just don't want to piss of the americans. its their choice, im just glad it is not in my reality.
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When you've been involved in a home invasion where dudes came into your house with guns, you start to understand why people want to own weapons. This issue is the reason I can't get along with liberals any better than I can conservatives.

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Crazy that everyone is concerned and doesn't give the guy who brings a pistol to go grocery shopping the benefit of the doubt right away. That just makes no sense at all.

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cops hate the armed in my experience, i am glad you made it out unharmed and is a statement to your discipline and control of ones self in tense situations where tempaers may flare.

good job, again glad you made it out as you did... those situations can ALWAYS turn very ugly.
In my experience, cops seem to like those with CCW permits. I've been pulled over for traffic violations and it most often goes like this:

I roll down my window and set both hands on the window sill or steering wheel in plain sight. The officer comes up and begins to speak. No matter what he has said, I say, "Officer, I have something to tell you" the moment I have a chance to speak. Almost always, he replies, "You're not going to tell me you have a firearm, are you?" I say, "Actually, that's exactly what I am going to tell you. But I also have a CCW permit."

He'll then usually ask to see the CCW permit, ask where the guns are in the car. Ask if I'll allow him to get them (if they are in his reach). He'll then compare the numbers and almost always tell me to have a nice day and be on my way, without even checking my driver's license.

My THEORY is this... either:

1. He sees a guy with a CCW as someone who must be okay, since I've had to go through a federal background check to get my permit

or

2. He doesn't like the idea of having to go back and forth between his cruiser and a vehicle that has a legally armed citizen waiting (impatiently) inside.

I dunno which one is the case, but I do know my CCW almost always gets me out of tickets.

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Old 04-11-2012, 08:54 AM   #187
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wait wait wait wait wait

something doesn't sound right here

a cop apologized???????????
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no offense but really i laugh thinking about all the business guys in ties having to turn over their weapons while being escorted out of the city in thier corvette or 250k RV LOL I see it every hurricane. LOL Got an arsenal of weapons at home but when hurricane comes they evacuate like its a vacation in a 200k RV LOL sure theese are rvolutionaries!!! hahah

people talk like they will form a militia and fight the government, but as we see constantly no, if shit really hit the fan youd be buying the first flight out of new york or wherever the war is starting and would not be in a revolution.

i am not trying to insult anyone, its just hilarious thinking about all this wehn instantly in a real life situation you wont even be allowed to be outside after 6 pm let alone patrol your streets with weapons LOl (they declare 6pm curfew during hurricane, you arrested if you out after 6 pm)

I can see everyone packing their gucci and versacci suits to get out of town quickly, that whole be rambo shit dies down quick when reality hits (soldiers with machine guns pointed at you) - when they approach you, they ask if you have weapons, you answer yes they already have weapons on you. You dont comply, what you think happens? lol need i spell it out?

as i said, in normal civilian times yeah you walk around supermarket feeling tough, but really, if shit broke out, none of you would be in any revolution, youd be evacuated and be sitting in a hotel in another state. hehehe

there is a LOT of truth to this... even if I don't WANT to agree with it.....
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:08 AM   #189
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Walking with a gun in a supermarket. Seriously, i just cannot get over it. It's insane! Totally fucking insane! In case you wonder why the whole world thinks Americans are retards, you can thank people like Aaronm for that. White trash in its purest form.
I walk into even my bank with my gun in my pocket.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:11 AM   #190
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it is fairly difficult to get a CCW permit in California.
difficult as in you have to write to the local sheriff and have a pretty good reason why you need to protect yourself in public. security guard or jewelry store owner etc..
i am guessing you are in NV or AZ?
It actually depends on the county, and who your Sheriff happens to be. If the Sheriff is a big fan of the second amendment it's not necessary to have a "reason."

The right to keep and arm bears is important.

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To each his own I'm just glad I don't live in a society of fear ;)
It's not a society of fear, it's became where the Police use to be about protect and serve to Control and Regulate. The LAPD just doesn't deal with anything anymore, they arrest you and drag you into jail. They keep you for a minimum of 24 hours now because everything goes thru the DOJ now. Even if you have bail arranged before you get to the jail.
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It's not a society of fear, it's became where the Police use to be about protect and serve to Control and Regulate. The LAPD just doesn't deal with anything anymore, they arrest you and drag you into jail. They keep you for a minimum of 24 hours now because everything goes thru the DOJ now. Even if you have bail arranged before you get to the jail.
Yeah man, it's way better if instead everybody and his brother carry a gun with them. Makes things soooo much safer
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It's funny and yet quite sad to see so many people who are so adamantly against guns...

I grew up as a white kid in the darkest parts of Baltimore City which was, during that time, the murder capital of the US. I've never once been shot, or shot at. I have had guns drawn on me, but every time was by a criminal.

I've been hit by a drunk driver once; a moron speeding through a school crossing once; an idiot who swerved up on to the sidewalk once; I had my first car totaled because some moron panicked and slammed on their brakes in ice; I have been rear ended by jack asses talking on their cellphones while stopped at traffic lights; my grandmother had her car t-boned while pulling out of her driveway by some retard ho was driving the wrong way down a one way street; I've seen too many pile ups to count which are usually caused by some asshat who shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car... I could go on all day if the point still eludes you.

Now, let's look at people with a legal right to carry a weapon (concealed or otherwise). how many of those people commit crimes? If I were a gambling man, I'd bet that the vast majority of crimes committed by persons permitted to carry weapons are committed by the police. And as has been stated before, more crimes are averted by people who are carrying legally than crimes committed.

Let's look at some statistics shall we:

Automobile related deaths: http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx
There were a total of 33,808 in 2009

Cigarette smoking related deaths: http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stat...ted_mortality/
An estimated 443,000 deaths annually (including deaths from secondhand smoke)

Homicide and legal intervention deaths by firearm (2009): 11,826
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html
Select "Homicide and Legal intervention" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2.

Legal Intervention related deaths (2009): 333
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html
Select "Legal intervention" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2.

Firearm related suicides (2009): 18,735
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html
Select "Suicide" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2.

Unintentional (accidental) firearm related deaths (2009): 554
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html
Select "Unintentional" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2.

So the facts are there for everyone to see... and the facts are, criminals and people who have given up on life are the leading cause of firearm related deaths in the US (2009). So while I can understand being against firearms, chastising and ridiculing legal gun owners is pretty ridiculous.

At the end of the day, you have a 98% higher chance of being killed by a car than you do of being killed by someone who is legally carrying a firearm.

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Yeah man, it's way better if instead everybody and his brother carry a gun with them. Makes things soooo much safer
A GOOD CCW permit holder carries their gun with them EVERYWHERE it is legal. In some cases they might choice to carry illegally in gun free zones.

Carrying a gun isn't about making the world a safer place. Killing someone is an absolute last resort.

You don't take a gun out to solve an argument. You don't pull out a gun to stop a robbery.

The only time you pull out that gun on someone is when you know you're going to fucking die if you don't.
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A GOOD CCW permit holder carries their gun with them EVERYWHERE it is legal. In some cases they might choice to carry illegally in gun free zones.

Carrying a gun isn't about making the world a safer place. Killing someone is an absolute last resort.

You don't take a gun out to solve an argument. You don't pull out a gun to stop a robbery.

The only time you pull out that gun on someone is when you know you're going to fucking die if you don't.
In some states it's a felony if your concealed weapon becomes unconcealed. Even if your a fat ass and are bending over to tie your shoes and it shows. Florida actually passed a ammendment to their carry law exepmting momentary accidental exposure. Still a felony to take it out or show it to someone as it should be. The sates make it way too easy to get these permits. In the class I was in some old hag had never shot a gun in her life. Instructer actually held the gun for her to shoot one round as that was all the instruction the class required. What a fucking joke. She is now carrying a gun in her purse. I feel so safe now.
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