Legal advice how would you address this email (legal)

[AllAboutCams]

I run an escort site and I received an email to say that an ad on my site had the wrong phone number this is the email

I have been made aware tonight by my 15 year old daughter that her mobile phone number is published on your website and in newspapers for "xxxxxxx xxxx xxxxxx".
She has received numerous phone calls and texts from your prospective clients requesting services.

Given her age, this is, of course, completely inappropriate.

I request that you immediately remove her mobile phone number from your website and ensure all publications are reviewed and amended as required.

In addition to this, I request that you forward written apology to my daughter via my email address for this trespass on her privacy, dignity and innocence.

Please confirm via email once the required action is completed.

Failure to comply with the above request within 24 hours will leave me with no option but to contact my legal representation in regards to fair damages and compensation.

Regards,
xxxx xxxx

so i responded with i have deleted the add but know she has just emailed me this email

Thank you for removing the ad.
However, it seems your mobile number validation process did not work in this case as I'm sure my daughter would not have agreed if someone had rung her to ask about it. What would they have said to her? I beleive it was a typo error in the set up of the ad. What is being done to address this within your organisation?
Also, you have not apologised. I expect this to be done in professional and respectful manner.
Please also arrange compensation for this inconvenience.

Regards,
xxxx

so how would you reply ?

[moeloubani]

tell them to fuck off, if it was a mistake it was a mistake

[BIGTYMER]

I wouldn't. You removed the ad. End of story.

[BIGTYMER]

Could be a scam. She might be trying to get hush money out of you.

I've had it happen to me in the past.

[porno jew]

stop correspondence.

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Could be a scam. She might be trying to get hush money out of you.

I've had it happen to me in the past.

i was thinking the same the add was only for a massage with no sex involved
so you reckon i just don't reply

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

i was thinking the same the add was only for a massage with no sex involved
so you reckon i just don't reply

Yup. I would personally just ignore it. Stinks of a scam.

[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by porno jew

stop correspondence.

[epitome]

Don't do anything unless a cop knocks on your door or you get a certified letter from a law firm. Of course, no good news ever comes by certified mail, so don't answer the door.

[JimmyStephans]

Ignore, or reply that you believe it was a boyfriend of her daughter's that created the ad and replied to the confirmation (if you have such a thing as she mentioned in her 2nd email).

[Evil1]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

Thank you for removing the ad.

No problem cockface

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

However, it seems your mobile number validation process did not work in this case as I'm sure my daughter would not have agreed if someone had rung her to ask about it.

That's good to know, I've penciled in July 7th 2012 from 9:13-9:14 am to give a fuck.

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

What would they have said to her?

My best guess is I don't give a shit.

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

I beleive it was a typo error in the set up of the ad. What is being done to address this within your organisation?

Absolutely nothing. Just as you have done with your spelling disability.

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

Also, you have not apologised.

Have you considered a career in law enforcement? Your knack for the blatantly obvious is impressive.

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

I expect this to be done in professional and respectful manner.

I outsource these things, the company i use charges $100/hr with a one hour minimum, plus my broker fee of 30% for a grand total of $130, how do you intend to pay?

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

Please also arrange compensation for this inconvenience.

If anyone needs to be compensated it's your husband for putting up with your cuntly attitude.

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

Regards,
xxxx

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[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by Evil1

No problem cockface
That's good to know, I've penciled in July 7th 2012 from 9:13-9:14 am to give a fuck.
My best guess is I don't give a shit.
Absolutely nothing. Just as you have done with your spelling disability.
Have you considered a career in law enforcement? Your knack for the blatantly obvious is impressive.

I outsource these things, the company i use charges $100/hr with a one hour minimum, plus my broker fee of 30% for a grand total of $130, how do you intend to pay?
If anyone needs to be compensated it's your husband for putting up with your cuntly attitude.


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[jigg]

stop fucking talking!
just like in altercation you don't open your mouth, when you get in court everything you say will be used against you

it would be what you said vs what she said. An apology is an admission of guilt

did you yourself post the ad or someone else?

consult a real attorney not armchair attorneys

[raymor]

If I replied it all, it would only say that just like a paper newspaper isn't responsible for the accuracy of classified ads you cannot guarantee the activity of every ad placed.

The request for compensation is fishy, but on the other hand I see no need to be rude and stir the pot. If it really is an angry mom, getting her more angry can do no good.

Legally, I think it's questionable. Newspapers do exercise some editorial control, but more importantly some escort ad sites have had legal trouble so there's no need to encourage someone to call the cops or DA. Even in the cases where the escort site "won" a legal battle it wasn't a pleasant experience.

PS - The to get an appropriate attorney is six months BEFORE you open an escort site. Pandering carries real jail time.

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by raymor

If I replied it all, it would only say that just like a paper newspaper isn't responsible for the accuracy of classified ads you cannot guarantee the activity of every ad placed.

The request for compensation is fishy, but on the other hand I see no need to be rude and stir the pot. If it really is an angry mom, getting her more angry can do no good.

Legally, I think it's questionable. Newspapers do exercise some editorial control, but more importantly some escort ad sites have had legal trouble so there's no need to encourage someone to call the cops or DA. Even in the cases where the escort site "won" a legal battle it wasn't a pleasant experience.

PS - The to get an appropriate attorney is six months BEFORE you open an escort site. Pandering carries real jail time.

the ad was for massage only it even says on the add that no sex is involved
im fairly sure it is a real mom as her email address is for a local 10-15 yo soccer club

[AllAboutCams]

also how long does google take to delete the pages from results

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

also how long does google take to delete the pages from results

Could be a day or weeks.

Don't stress over this dude. It's nothing.

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Could be a day or weeks.

Don't stress over this dude. It's nothing.

cheers

[jimmycooper]

I agree with Jimmy. Also be sure to properly punctuate all correspondence.

[papill0n]

where are you from ?

im going to say mumbai but you tell me

[AdultKing]

I have been made aware tonight by my 15 year old daughter that her mobile phone number is published on your website and in newspapers for "xxxxxxx xxxx xxxxxx".

How did her number get in a newspaper ?

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

How did her number get in a newspaper ?

No idea it was not me. The newspaper here has a very strict policy (in wa) you pay for the ad then someone from the paper calls you to confirm the number.

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by papill0n

where are you from ?

im going to say mumbai but you tell me

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

No idea it was not me. The newspaper here has a very strict policy (in wa) you pay for the ad then someone from the paper calls you to confirm the number.

Did you source the number from the newspaper or did they ring you to place the ad on your website, or was it an electronic submission on your site ?

[k0nr4d]

Don't even reply to emails like that. They can be used against you in court later - don't even think about it unless you get a certified letter...

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Did you source the number from the newspaper or did they ring you to place the ad on your website, or was it an electronic submission on your site ?

The ad on my site is from the news paper they confirm they want there ad on my website. All electronic submission are called back by me personally to confirm the number.

[alextokyo]

Well, it's either a scam, a malicious sibling, or a horny 15 year old looking for dick who spat her dummy when she got rained under with calls from 45 year old IT workers rather than Justin Beiber and Ryan Gosling.

Take your pick, but some of these wannabe scammers can be very convincing, not like that Lawrence Connor idiot pretending to be a priest.

Hindsight is a bitch, but you should've kept your mouth shut from the start.

Either way it sounds like someone is just desperate for a fight... there's nothing you can say or do to convince idiots like that. Sounds like you have measures in place to prevent mistakes/malicious users, and as for being personally responsible...

So just ignore it.


P.S. This is hilarious:

Failure to comply with the above request within 24 hours will leave me with no option but to contact my legal representation in regards to fair damages and compensation.

Setting a fucking deadline? I would've left it up out of spite.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

The ad on my site is from the news paper. All electronic submission are called back by me personally to confirm the number.

If I were you I wouldn't be placing ANY prostitution related ad on your site that wasn't directly submitted by someone to your site. Copying ads from the newspaper is just asking for trouble. Given the current climate regarding this kind of thing in Western Australia, I'd be particularly careful about this stuff.

[kane]

To me this seems like an innocent mistake and a mom who sees it as a way to make a few quick dollars. She is likely one of those people who demands free food if her order gets mixed up at a restaurant.

Is she going to sue you? Likely no. That would cost money and really, what kind of damages could she hope to get? She would have to put her kid on the stand and prove that getting these calls damaged her and, as you said, it was a mistake. You didn't do it on purpose.

People who are going to sue normally just do it, they don't threaten you with it.

I would be tempted to ask her how much she thinks is fair compensation. When she sends you a number you get a lawyer to send her a letter via certified mail basically telling her to stop trying to blackmail you and explain that you have fixed the mistake, but you aren't paying her. Tell her if she if she continues to attempt to extort you that you will turn her into the authorities. She will shit her pants.

[AdultKing]

The problem for the OP is that the ad wasn't submitted to his website, he's copied it out of the newspaper. Effectively publishing the phone number of a 15 year old girl in relation to "massage" services due to the mistake of another publisher.

Notwithstanding the fact that the original ad is plagiarized, the risk of copying ads from third parties in relation to sexual services has just been amply demonstrated to the OP.

I wouldn't be putting ANYTHING on the website that wasn't directly submitted because you lose the ability to say it was user submitted and you took reasonable steps to confirm the ad.

[papill0n]

youre in australia ?

edit:

wa hey - i used to live in kew :p

[AdultKing]

http://xxxaus.com was his first attempt at an escort site.

[kane]

BTW, my post is terrible legal advice. I would just love to see the look on her face when she got the letter

[papill0n]

what is the connection between your site and the newspaper ?

[kane]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

http://xxxaus.com was his first attempt at an escort site.

That just redirects to chaturbate

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by papill0n

youre in australia ?

edit:

wa hey - i used to live in kew :p

yep im in rivervale now ive lived in wanneroo, mandurah, yokine, tuart hill, como
but i would like to move back to mandurah soon

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

http://xxxaus.com was his first attempt at an escort site.

That was my first adult website not a bad site in the end i had people from langtrees submitting. What would you suggest for verification for people subbmiting to my site?

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

That was my first adult website not a bad site in the end i had people from langtrees submitting. What would you suggest for verification for people subbmiting to my site?

If you're going to accept ads for adult services I would suggest email verification at the minimum with captcha.

www.cracker.com.au have most of this market and they'd have better legal advice than you have at your disposal, what do they do to verify ads ?

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

If you're going to accept ads for adult services I would suggest email verification at the minimum with captcha.

www.cracker.com.au have most of this market and they'd have better legal advice than you have at your disposal, what do they do to verify ads ?

Most of the ads are for friends that i have put on there but for the user submitted i normally call them or send an sms. With cracker,beautifulcompanions i have advertised on there before with only email conformation were as the news paper calls me to confirm. So do you think i should dump that site and start again with only user submitted on a new domain?

[V_RocKs]

I'd tell him/her about the Reality Kings all access pass!

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

Most of the ads are for friends that i have put on there but for the user submitted i normally call them or send an sms. With cracker,beautifulcompanions i have advertised on there before with only email conformation were as the news paper calls me to confirm. So do you think i should dump that site and start again with only user submitted on a new domain?

What you do is up to you, however I'd be getting legal advice on structure/dos and don'ts before running any kind of prostitution promotion service.

I don't think it's prudent to be copying ads from other sources, newspapers or websites. I'd also have email confirmation as a bare minimum.

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

What you do is up to you, however I'd be getting legal advice on structure/dos and don'ts before running any kind of prostitution promotion service.

I don't think it's prudent to be copying ads from other sources, newspapers or websites. I'd also have email confirmation as a bare minimum.

Ok thanks

[Ron Bennett]

You say the person wrote, in part, the following:

Also, you have not apologised. I expect this to be done in professional and respectful manner.
Please also arrange compensation for this inconvenience.

That part in bold - big red flag right there! Wow, they're looking for money...

As many others have already said, likely best to, NOT reply back. Ignore any further correspondence.

In the future, consider verifying all phone numbers - lots of ways of doing that, including various automated services (legally, likely the safer route verses manually doing it; maintains consistency and to avoid any conversation that could be used against one later) that calls the phone number and provides a verification code to enter in on a website, etc.

[EddyTheDog]

If you call the number do you get a 15 year old girl?

That has to affect how you handle it.....

[AllAboutCams]

The funny thing is the ad has been on the site since September last year with only 4 page views which she claims numerous phone calls and texts

[DaLord]

Remove the phone number.Stop conversations with him. End of story. Ignore threads.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

The funny thing is the ad has been on the site since September last year with only 4 page views which she claims numerous phone calls and texts

How much money does this site make for you ?

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

How much money does this site make for you ?

Depends around $5-$50 per month for ads but i get a few calls from the site. Which is better than paying the paper or another website.

[u-Bob]

ignore him/her.
block his/her ip from accessing your sites/servers.

[Mrwww]

Start by calling the number yourself to confirm...

ICQ me, ill call it.