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Old 12-19-2013, 11:51 PM   #101
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Dynasty



hmm a bachelor and a Masters? yup a uneducated redneck

and I sorta mentioned this before



I'll say it again I'm not religious at all and the last time I was in a church not for a wedding was probably 20 years ago but this is a decent show.

It pisses me off that people like Miley can do and say whatever the hell they want but you have a god loving guy say his belief based on the bible and he gets shit canned?
Miley takes responsibility for her provocativeness by proclaiming her sexuality proudly when she is interviewed.

What this guy did was make hateful comments about a group of people and then hide behind his preferred religious book
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The guy got his education from Louisiana Tech? Not exactly a bastion of higher learning since they aren't even listed among the top 1,000 U.S colleges. I doubt the are even in the top 2,000
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:18 AM   #103
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The guy got his education from Louisiana Tech? Not exactly a bastion of higher learning since they aren't even listed among the top 1,000 U.S colleges. I doubt the are even in the top 2,000
And I guess you have a master from Harvard?

I'm just saying he has more education than most people on "reality" shows.

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The duck dynasty guys grew out their beards for the show... just sayin'
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I'm surprised at the lack of conversation regarding his other comments.

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Phil Robertson's anti-gay comments aren't the only part of his interview with GQ causing controversy.

The 67-year-old "Duck Dynasty" star was suspended by A&E Wednesday for calling homosexuality sinful ? and putting gay people in same category as terrorists. While those quotes quickly went viral, it wasn't his only brow-raising statement in the interview; he also implied that African Americans were happier living under Jim Crow laws.

"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once," the reality star said of growing up in pre-Civil-Rights-era Louisiana. "Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field ... They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, 'I tell you what: These doggone white people' ? not a word!"

Robertson continued, "Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."
Perhaps he was just referring to a total of 3 black families living down the road.
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just read this and thought I'd add it here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Dynasty



hmm a bachelor and a Masters? yup a uneducated redneck

and I sorta mentioned this before



I'll say it again I'm not religious at all and the last time I was in a church not for a wedding was probably 20 years ago but this is a decent show.

It pisses me off that people like Miley can do and say whatever the hell they want but you have a god loving guy say his belief based on the bible and he gets shit canned?
Did Miley ever saying things attacking a group of people? Rubbing her ass on Robin Thicke and talking about getting high is very different.
Also I have a problem with these people that use the bible as an excuse to judge people and cherry pick what suits them. Leviticus were they all love to quote also says eating shell fish and pork are also abominations. The old testament, Exodus talks about it being ok to sell your daughter into slavery.
In reality Christians should be the followers of the teachings of Christ but that doesnt work when he said there is only one commandment love one another as I loved you. Cant do much judging on that one.
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The support for the family is awesome, found out they have beards because it says something about it in the bible. Basically, they live their complete life by the bible.

A&E will keep them going, they are the most popular show in reality right now, they are huge. The thing that most are drawn to them is because of their belief's.

I'm sorry that I can't fault people for having a different belief, but love that they are not afraid to speak their belief.

Anyone that hates them for that has a problem. I can understand the gay community having a problem with it, but if they jump too hard on this, it will backfire. People are getting tired of being threatened with political correctness by people demanding respect! Earn it!!

http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/ho...011810552.html
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if thats his view, thats his view. people can either watch the show or not, a&e can keep the show or they can cancel it. some old redneck dude having such views is not a shocker. most of these a&e reality show phoneys have done and say a lot of things that offend some but who really cares. i don't see why its such a big deal.
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The support for the family is awesome, found out they have beards because it says something about it in the bible. Basically, they live their complete life by the bible.

A&E will keep them going, they are the most popular show in reality right now, they are huge. The thing that most are drawn to them is because of their belief's.

I'm sorry that I can't fault people for having a different belief, but love that they are not afraid to speak their belief.

Anyone that hates them for that has a problem. I can understand the gay community having a problem with it, but if they jump too hard on this, it will backfire. People are getting tired of being threatened with political correctness by people demanding respect! Earn it!!

http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/ho...011810552.html
they grew the beards for the tv show...they didn't have them before that. supposedly their contract requires them to keep them as well.
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they grew the beards for the tv show...they didn't have them before that. supposedly their contract requires them to keep them as well.
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do a quick google search, there are lots of links.
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The support for the family is awesome, found out they have beards because it says something about it in the bible. Basically, they live their complete life by the bible.

A&E will keep them going, they are the most popular show in reality right now, they are huge. The thing that most are drawn to them is because of their belief's.

I'm sorry that I can't fault people for having a different belief, but love that they are not afraid to speak their belief.

Anyone that hates them for that has a problem. I can understand the gay community having a problem with it, but if they jump too hard on this, it will backfire. People are getting tired of being threatened with political correctness by people demanding respect! Earn it!!

http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/ho...011810552.html
they didn't suspend him due to political correctness, they did it to boost ratings via drawing attention to the show by manipulating the media through contrived controversy, much like the show is contrived reality.
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they grew the beards for the tv show...they didn't have them before that. supposedly their contract requires them to keep them as well.


very preppy its an act.
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they didn't suspend him due to political correctness, they did it to boost ratings via drawing attention to the show by manipulating the media through contrived controversy, much like the show is contrived reality.
All those shows do it, I'll bet their ratings increase over this.
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they grew the beards for the tv show...they didn't have them before that. supposedly their contract requires them to keep them as well.
Those beards are pretty damn long.
According to this, the last time Willie shaved was 1988
http://www.examiner.com/article/will...ir-long-beards

this picture is over a decade old, taken in 2001


As far as them growing them because of the show, I find nothing on that, also looking at photos from season one, I can say that those beards are years in the making. So I'm going to need some proof that they grew those for the shows
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they didn't suspend him due to political correctness, they did it to boost ratings via drawing attention to the show by manipulating the media through contrived controversy, much like the show is contrived reality.
I don't think so, I mean the risk is too great to add that kind of controversy to their number 1 show. Have you walked thru a Walmart lately? They even have chia pets now!! LOL
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I don't think so, I mean the risk is too great to add that kind of controversy to their number 1 show. Have you walked thru a Walmart lately? They even have chia pets now!! LOL
there is no risk here. it's a contrived reality show that plays up to christian stereotypes. this capitalizes on that.
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they didn't suspend him due to political correctness, they did it to boost ratings via drawing attention to the show by manipulating the media through contrived controversy, much like the show is contrived reality.
um I don't think they need to boost anything
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But on the other hand I read that they have already finished filming the new season that starts in Jan. So Phil will be in it and chances are if they can quiet the gay rights people and others.. maybe they will just let him return to filming for next falls season..

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um, you must be joking. either that or you don't understand how television works.

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um, you must be joking. either that or you don't understand how television works.

no I'm not.. if they are already "the most watched nonfiction series telecast in cable television history" why would you mess with it.. Every year the show is growing all by itself and Duck Dynasty is not like Jersey Shore where bad press is good for the show.

I know what you are saying that more is always better but it just seems like a risk to be doing it when you are already the most watched show.
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no I'm not.. if they are already "the most watched nonfiction series telecast in cable television history" why would you mess with it.. Every year the show is growing all by itself and Duck Dynasty is not like Jersey Shore where bad press is good for the show.

I know what you are saying that more is always better but it just seems like a risk to be doing it when you are already the most watched show.
i never said they NEEDED to boost ratings, you inferred that from my comment.

but the simple fact is the gq article was printed, it included the quote, a&e had to spin it, why not spin it to gain attention. fact is the show is entirely scripted, exposure sells ads, by scripting the controversy by adding to it, they increased attention, you don't need to look past this thread to see that.

increased attention = increased prices they can command for ads.
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What does this even mean? Was he arrested and thrown in jail for what he said?
You would be amazed the number of people that think this is a freedom of speech issue. Its scary it really is.
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A jail? Hmm... I didn't get it. What are you talking about?
Yes, you don't get it. It's not a free speech issue at all. He got yanked from a tv show, there is no government involved...
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Duck Dynasty is fake btw and America is eating it up
Skip to 3:00 where he shows what they looked like before they became manufactured fake "Bad asses" in order to make money

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Skip to 3:00 where he shows what they looked like before they became manufactured fake "Bad asses" in order to make money
I love this guy. lol
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Skip to 3:00 where he shows what they looked like before they became manufactured fake "Bad asses" in order to make money




that the aggro version of exactly what i've been saying in this thread!
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Skip to 3:00 where he shows what they looked like before they became manufactured fake "Bad asses" in order to make money
Wow, that was something else, loved it BTW

The thing about them showing the old pictures I think was off, I mean even ZZTop didn't always have beards.

It's just entertainment
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Skip to 3:00 where he shows what they looked like before they became manufactured fake "Bad asses" in order to make money
Never mind how they may have looked. You just need to watch the show to see it is fake. I have seen two episodes and both were so fake it was unreal. In one episode a freezer full of meat breaks and they have to clean it out then find a place to dump the meat. They spend half the episode driving around trying to figure out what to do with the rotten meat. The acting is so bad it is obvious. That same episode one of the guy's kids are getting their wisdom teeth pulled. They did a whole thing where the kids act goofy after being on the gas. Of course this was right after some viral videos on Youtube where people filmed their kids being goofy after the dentist. Again, it was so fake it was painful.

I can't see how anyone could watch the show and not think they are being manipulated and used.
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Why do people have to post "The show is fake"? It's a TV show, only a fucking dumb ass would think it's real. Does anyone think a film crew is going to follow a group of guys around all day hoping they do something they can put on TV?
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You would be amazed the number of people that think this is a freedom of speech issue. Its scary it really is.
It's because morons on the right are trying to grandstand for political gain because of a dumb TV show. Then all the little brain dead morons just follow along as if it's actually some freedom do speech issue.

Meanwhile sports stars say stupid things all the time and get suspended and no one bats an eye unless it's has to do with Tim Teabags
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:28 PM   #137
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You would be amazed the number of people that think this is a freedom of speech issue. Its scary it really is.
It's because morons on the right are trying to grandstand for political gain because of a dumb TV show. Then all the little brain dead morons just follow along as if it's actually some freedom of speech issue.

Meanwhile sports stars say stupid things all the time and get suspended and no one bats an eye unless it's has to do with Tim Teabags
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Old 12-21-2013, 07:16 PM   #138
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It's because morons on the right are trying to grandstand for political gain because of a dumb TV show. Then all the little brain dead morons just follow along as if it's actually some freedom of speech issue.

Meanwhile sports stars say stupid things all the time and get suspended and no one bats an eye unless it's has to do with Tim Teabags
This whole Duck Dynasty thing is a rare opportunity for both sides to fake outrage and get their names in the news. Meanwhile in a few weeks A&E will announce that everything is fine and he is back on the show and laugh all the way to the bank.
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:06 PM   #139
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This whole Duck Dynasty thing is a rare opportunity for both sides to fake outrage and get their names in the news. Meanwhile in a few weeks A&E will announce that everything is fine and he is back on the show and laugh all the way to the bank.
They may quit A&E...as I am sure that several other networks...will quickly pick them up...and are probably making offers to them at this point. Each of them are multimillionaires and may not not care a whole lot about the show anyhow.
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Duck Dynasty = Jersey Shore for the more religious minded idiot.

And it's also proof that the average American television viewer has an IQ of potato.
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It's because morons on the right are trying to grandstand for political gain because of a dumb TV show. Then all the little brain dead morons just follow along as if it's actually some freedom do speech issue.

Meanwhile sports stars say stupid things all the time and get suspended and no one bats an eye unless it's has to do with Tim Teabags
Why does everything have to boil down to blame on the right?

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It's because morons on the right are trying to grandstand for political gain because of a dumb TV show. Then all the little brain dead morons just follow along as if it's actually some freedom of speech issue.

Meanwhile sports stars say stupid things all the time and get suspended and no one bats an eye unless it's has to do with Tim Teabags
Why does everything have to boil down to blame on the right?
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Duck Dynasty = Jersey Shore for the more religious minded idiot.

And it's also proof that the average American television viewer has an IQ of potato.
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They may quit A&E...as I am sure that several other networks...will quickly pick them up...and are probably making offers to them at this point. Each of them are multimillionaires and may not not care a whole lot about the show anyhow.
the show isn't their's, it's a&e's.
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Why does everything have to boil down to blame on the right?



Why does everything have to boil down to blame on the right?
Hummm... because of Palin, Beck , Hannity, etc ..... The only one on the " right " that got it " right " was ... O'Reily ....

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Hummm... because of Palin, Beck , Hannity, etc ..... The only one on the " right " that got it " right " was ... O'Reily ....

O'Reily argued that the bible says something else, I think the bigger thing is that that's just the way he believe's and someone's belief should be there own.

The only real problem I have are those that will campaign against it to somehow gain respect, that's no better than being a bully.

"Either think this way or we will attack you!"

Fuck those people, if you don't like what he said, fine, but he has a lot more support than most


Here'es a great article that Crockett will never read or understand

The suspension of Phil Robertson from A&E’s Duck Dynasty is outrageous in a nation that values freedom, according to social critic and openly gay, dissident feminist Camille Paglia.

“I speak with authority here, because I was openly gay before the ‘Stonewall rebellion,’ when it cost you something to be so. And I personally feel as a libertarian that people have the right to free thought and free speech,” Paglia, a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, said on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Thursday.

“In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support homosexuality — as I one hundred percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again they have a right of religious freedom there,” she added.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/19/pa...#ixzz2oFZJazXN
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O'Reily argued that the bible says something else, I think the bigger thing is that that's just the way he believe's and someone's belief should be there own.

The only real problem I have are those that will campaign against it to somehow gain respect, that's no better than being a bully.

"Either think this way or we will attack you!"

Fuck those people, if you don't like what he said, fine, but he has a lot more support than most


Here'es a great article that Crockett will never read or understand

The suspension of Phil Robertson from A&E’s Duck Dynasty is outrageous in a nation that values freedom, according to social critic and openly gay, dissident feminist Camille Paglia.

“I speak with authority here, because I was openly gay before the ‘Stonewall rebellion,’ when it cost you something to be so. And I personally feel as a libertarian that people have the right to free thought and free speech,” Paglia, a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, said on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Thursday.

“In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support homosexuality — as I one hundred percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again they have a right of religious freedom there,” she added.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/19/pa...#ixzz2oFZJazXN
Absolutely, in a free society you can be anything, anti-gay, anti-military, anti-government , anti-life, anti-anti ....

But that is not the point ....This is an issue between an employer ( A&E) and an employee ( Phil ) ... end of story ...

As a very close example, I am under contract with a major federal " crown " corporation ... I signed a contract with many clauses ...

Now, I am allowed to express publically ( and published ) an opinion that would go against Federalism in Canada ( as I am under contract with a federal company) ?
Yes, I am .... but I will pay the consequences as per my contract ....
So, since I am poorer and smarter than Phil " the Duck " , I keep my mouth shut, whether for or against

So, get off the free speech argument, as it is not the case here.
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Here'es a great article that Crockett will never read or understand

The suspension of Phil Robertson from A&E?s Duck Dynasty is outrageous in a nation that values freedom, according to social critic and openly gay, dissident feminist Camille Paglia.

?I speak with authority here, because I was openly gay before the ?Stonewall rebellion,? when it cost you something to be so. And I personally feel as a libertarian that people have the right to free thought and free speech,? Paglia, a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, said on Laura Ingraham?s radio show Thursday.

?In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support homosexuality ? as I one hundred percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again they have a right of religious freedom there,? she added.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/19/pa...#ixzz2oFZJazXN
this is being made into an issue that it isn't. the country, president, justice system didn't do anything to phil. a private corporation did. a private entity that is free to do as it pleases with its shows and stars. it has nothing to do with freedom of speech. a&e is not a democracy. its a cable tv network.
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They may quit A&E...as I am sure that several other networks...will quickly pick them up...and are probably making offers to them at this point. Each of them are multimillionaires and may not not care a whole lot about the show anyhow.
I guess I am pretty cynical when it comes to things like this. I think A&E and the Duck Dynasty people are using this all as a way to get more publicity. When the article came out and started getting negative attention I think executives at A&E sat down with the Phil and the family and they decided they would "suspend" him and milk this for a few weeks then they would bring him back. It allows them to further whip their supporters into a frenzy and get more publicity for the show.

I think the Duck Dynasty family is far more savvy and media wise than they let on. They understand that by pretending to be rednecks they are cashing in. They are going to stick with that.

I do believe that they are all very religious, but I think most of the show is just an act and I think this entire suspension is just a publicity stunt.
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