Trump wants to "close up the Internet"

[crockett]

In before Robbke claims he didn't say it...


"We have kids that are watching the Internet, and they want to be masterminds. And then you wonder why we lose all these kids, they want to be masterminds; they're young, they're impressionable, they want to join ISIS.

And we have our anchors—I think I've got 'em mostly stopped, have you noticed that, they don't say it as much—but they say, the 'young mastermind', oh he's brilliant. I don't think he's got a high IQ. In Paris, I called him the guy with the dirty, filthy hat. 'K? Not a smart guy, a dummy. A mastermind? Bing bing bing, starts shooting everybody.

The press has to be responsible; they're not being responsible. We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet. We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people who really understand what's happening and maybe, in some ways, closing that Internet up in some ways.

Somebody will say, 'Oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people, we have a lot of foolish people. We've got to maybe do something with the Internet because they're recruiting by the thousands, they're leaving our country, and then when they come back, we take them back.

'Where were you?' 'I was fighting for ISIS.' 'Oh, come on back. Go home, enjoy yourself.' When they leave our country and they go to fight or go to ISIS, they never can come back.

Donald Trump wants to close up the Internet


Yea fuck all those cry babies who want freedom of speech, unless it's the 2nd amendment who cares.. Listening to Trump talk is like hearing a retard babble. He doesn't know what the fuck he's saying, he just says stupid shit and morons think it's great because he said it..

[dyna mo]

so if it's on the internet, everyone- every man, woman and child, gets access to it, because, you know, free speech.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

so if it's on the internet, everyone- every man, woman and child, gets access to it, because, you know, free speech.

How could I guess denial mo would be the first one here to defend stupid shit Trump says. It's ok folks as long as we aren't Banning guns there is nothing to worry about!

[dyna mo]

i'm not defending trump, i'm pointing out you think everything on the internet should be available to everyone, you know, freedom of speech.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Yea fuck all those cry babies who want freedom of speech,

your words. not Trump's.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm not defending trump, i'm pointing out you think everything on the internet should be available to everyone, you know, freedom of speech.

Denial mo.. just admit the guy is an idiot.. I bet this is the same way Hitler started killing Jews.. Morons in Germany were probably like.. Yeah that Hitler guy says some stupid and crazy shit but at least you could have a beer with him at the pub.. That other guy he's a liberal!

[dyna mo]

the guy is a successful developer and leading the polls to become POTUS, i'm not in a position to call him an idiot.

but the fact is he didn't say what you exclaimed and quoted in your inflammatory topic sentence- "close up the Internet"

what he said is in your OP-

"and maybe, in some ways, closing that Internet up in some ways."

you know, like has already been done with many different types of subject matter online and offline.


crockett science seems to think it's OK to yell fire in a theater, you know, on account of free speech and Trump's an idiot.

i don't subscribe to crockett science.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm not defending trump, i'm pointing out you think everything on the internet should be available to everyone, you know, freedom of speech.

It's the slippery slope. Today Trump wants to shield the kids from bomb making and isis and tomorrow he wants to shield them from porn so he shuts it down.

[Milfer]

"closing that Internet up..." LOL

It is not one of your business franchises, you idiot!

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the guy is a successful developer and leading the polls to become POTUS, i'm not in a position to call him an idiot.

Nope, not even close. Latest poll....

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton MSNBC/Telemundo/Marist
Clinton 52, Trump 41 Clinton +11

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election 2016 Presidential Polls

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SBJ

It's the slippery slope. Today Trump wants to shield the kids from bomb making and isis and tomorrow he wants to shield them from porn so he shuts it down.

i'm of the opinion any porners voting for a republican are not making a smart choice, and of those candidates could make porn an agenda item.

and i throw hillary into that group to some degree.

nevertheless, if you peel down Trump's comment to the core, like all his other outrageous statements, points to a problem and that problem here is isis is using the internet to recruit and inspire underage youth. and just like porn, access to that sort of material should be restricted.

[tony286]

I can see him having a very tough time if he is elected. As the owner of an empire, he can say do this and its done. President is a very different beast. lol.
I also find it funny, if Obama said the same thing Trump said, there would be calls for his head and how he thinks he is a dictator.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Nope, not even close. Latest poll....

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton MSNBC/Telemundo/Marist
Clinton 52, Trump 41 Clinton +11

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election 2016 Presidential Polls

i'm confident you know exactly what the fuck i was speaking to. he's leading the gop race for potus and you're trying to gotcha me is entirely beside the point i was making, which is Trump is a successful billionaire developer running a successful bid for the fucking potus, that makes him NOT an idiot.

[$money$]

Trump get's more Real Everyday!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by SBJ

It's the slippery slope. Today Trump wants to shield the kids from bomb making and isis and tomorrow he wants to shield them from porn so he shuts it down.

Don't forget he also wants to track Muslims and now says we should ban Muslims from coming into the country.. The guy is a fucking loon..


I bet you anything he's like I don't want to be the president.. I just did this to get some book sales and further my brand.. But these stupid fucking republicans belive everything I say and the more crazy shit I say the more they like me..

[tony286]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm confident you know exactly what the fuck i was speaking to. he's leading the gop race for potus and you're trying to gotcha me is entirely beside the point i was making, which is Trump is a successful billionaire developer running a successful bid for the fucking potus, that makes him NOT an idiot.

I agree and I would bet he doesnt believe half the shit he is saying. He is feeding the angry base. Out of all the gops I would rather have him than the others.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm of the opinion any porners voting for a republican are not making a smart choice, and of those candidates could make porn an agenda item.

and i throw hillary into that group to some degree.

nevertheless, if you peel down Trump's comment to the core, like all his other outrageous statements, points to a problem and that problem here is isis is using the internet to recruit and inspire underage youth. and just like porn, access to that sort of material should be restricted.

So we should also restrict all Relgious speech access because you know those domestic terrorist shooting up abortion clinics and bombing them.. We have to do it for the kids..

While we are at it, we should ban all gun sites and any adult related materials because kids might see it.. Think of the kids..we don't want to lose them...

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm of the opinion any porners voting for a republican are not making a smart choice, and of those candidates could make porn an agenda item.

and i throw hillary into that group to some degree.

nevertheless, if you peel down Trump's comment to the core, like all his other outrageous statements, points to a problem and that problem here is isis is using the internet to recruit and inspire underage youth. and just like porn, access to that sort of material should be restricted.

Parents should restrict kids from porn and other things! I don't want the gov to take over every aspect of our lives anymore than it already does. With every passing year USA home of the free gets less free.

[L-Pink]

So let me get this right, people have a problem with the government taking down sites recruiting isis? Sites glamorizing terrorists .....

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm confident you know exactly what the fuck i was speaking to. he's leading the gop race for potus and you're trying to gotcha me is entirely beside the point i was making, which is Trump is a successful billionaire developer running a successful bid for the fucking potus, that makes him NOT an idiot.

Yea but that's not what you said. You said he was leading the polls to become President and he clearly isnt. No 'gotcha' about it.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

So we should also restrict all Relgious speech access because you know those domestic terrorist shooting up abortion clinics and bombing them.. We have to do it for the kids..

While we are at it, we should ban all gun sites and any adult related materials because kids might see it.. Think of the kids..we don't want to lose them...

try and stay focused, this is your thread you know. you libtards get ancy and start pointing your finger at everything when someone actually has a cogent point.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Yea but that's not what you said. You said he was leading the polls to become President and he clearly isnt. No 'gotcha' about it.

you fail at adult conversation.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

So let me get this right, people have a problem with the government taking down sites recruiting isis? Sites glamorizing terrorists .....

They already have that right and I'm cool with that. What I'm not cool with is this guy to pass new laws that allows him to police anything he wants.

I mean read what he says and he says HE wants to close up the internet. Why would he say that when the gov already has rights to seize and take down sites.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SBJ

Parents should restrict kids from porn and other things! I don't want the gov to take over every aspect of our lives anymore than it already does. With every passing year USA home of the free gets less free.

my point was in general. i happen to think the frontlines for the fight against isis should be the military and our elected officials.

while parents should be responsible for their children, they shouldn't be responsible for killing isis.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by SBJ

They already have that right and I'm cool with that. What I'm not cool with is this guy to pass new laws that allows him to police anything he wants.

I mean read what he says and he says HE wants to close up the internet. Why would he say that when the gov already has rights to seize and take down sites.

Because he's a idiot and guys like dyna will make excuses for everything he says, no matter what it is.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Way to take things out of context ya fucking dolt

Perhaps you and the lizard people can tell us what he really said...

I mean heck we have had 2 years of investigations over Benghazi because Obama didn't say terrorist attack fast enough.. I thought you right wing retards liked stright to the point talk, not all this dilly dally no clear points BS...

It's amazing how you guys opinions change not by what is said but who said it..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Because he's a idiot and guys like dyna will make excuses for everything he says, no matter what it is.

i didn't make excuses for what he said. i clarified what he said (because you misquoted him) and pointed out you're an idiot that thinks an unregulated internet is a constitutional right.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i didn't make excuses for what he said. i clarified what he said (because you misquoted him) and pointed out you're an idiot that thinks an unregulated internet is a constitutional right.

I quoted exactly what he said. You can't read if you think there is a misquote.. Quit making excuses..

[dyna mo]

Trump wants to "close up the Internet"

Originally Posted by crockett

Trump: "in some ways, closing that Internet up in some ways."

Originally Posted by crockett

I quoted exactly what he said. You can't read well if you think there is a misquote.. Quit making excuses..

to which quote of your's are you referring?

[sandman!]

yes he does say some dumb shit

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you fail at adult conversation.

You fail at having the ability to articulate your thoughts correctly.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

You fail at having the ability to articulate your thoughts correctly.

lol. i'm the one actually engaging the other adults in thoughtful dialogue. you're the one getting distracted by trying zing me.


but hey sure thing, you got me, i stated he's winning the race for potus when i meant winning the gop race for potus. zing. oh noe.

i hope you feel better about yourself for making an issue out of something i was referring to that the adults (and crockett even) easily grasped.

[Barry-xlovecam]

All of the Internet "scheming" can be monitored.

"keep your friends close and your enemies closer"

It is illegal to conspire, and already against the law -- criminal speech has no constitutional protections
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

That is the Islamic Terrorist State's freely stated goal -- is to levy war (organized terrorism is a form of warfare -- by violence and not by passive speech).

It's unconstitutional to close the press (or media). Gag orders by a court are only legal under limited circumstance.

So, Trump wants to be able to revoke the law now?

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

lol. i'm the one actually engaging the other adults in thoughtful dialogue. you're the one getting distracted by trying zing me.


but hey sure thing, you got me, i stated he's winning the race for potus when i meant winning the gop race for potus. zing. oh noe.

i hope you feel better about yourself for making an issue out of something i was referring to that the adults (and crockett even) easily grasped.

Your logic....adults are mind readers and know what you meant to say.

Don't spread misinformation and you won't be corrected. Pretty simple.

[MaDalton]

IS in Syria uses mostly satellite equipment to connect to the internet. They buy the equipment in Turkey. To make it work, they need to provide GPS information to the internet provider. With this information you can either shut down their internet access or capture and log it.

No need to "shut down the internet" or spy on everyone else.

but for some reason...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Your logic....adults are mind readers and know what you meant to say.

Don't spread misinformation and you won't be corrected. Pretty simple.

spreading misinformation is what wehateporn does. i didn't make a specific enough post for you at 7am, 2 different things. if you think i'm trying to spread misinformation regarding polling data that is readily available, you should work on your trolling, because it's just as weak as your comprehension skills and ability to hold a conversation.

again, in an adult conversation, the participants strive to understand each other, not strive to misunderstand, dodge and deflect.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

spreading misinformation is what wehateporn does. i didn't make a specific enough post for you at 7am, 2 different things. if you think i'm trying to spread misinformation regarding polling data that is readily available, you should work on your trolling, because it's just as weak as your comprehension skills and ability to hold a conversation.

again, in an adult conversation, the participants strive to understand each other, not strive to misunderstand, dodge and deflect.

Now your excuse for saying Trump is leading the polls to become President is because its 7AM and yet you want to continue arguing your position?

Maybe you should stick with conversing with Johnnyclicks, you two seem to hold the same views.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Don't spread misinformation and you won't be corrected. Pretty simple.

you've got to be very insecure in your views and have a complete lack of grasping the english language to feel so strong a need to go off on a tangent *correcting* me on that post

mis·in·for·ma·tion
ˌmisinfərˈmāSH(ə)n/
noun
false or inaccurate information, especially that which is deliberately intended to deceive.


you to think i intentionally tried to misinform people in this thread, ALL of whom i've had direct convos with re: polling for POTus.

but hey, zing! right? i'm assuming you think you zing!ed me, i don't really feel zing!ed though. i it's clear what i was referring to.

so yeah zing! sure. why not, feel better about yourself.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Now your excuse for saying Trump is leading the polls to become President is because its 7AM and yet you want to continue arguing your position?

Maybe you should stick with conversing with Johnnyclicks, you two seem to hold the same views.

bro.

look at what you're doing here. i stated i can't call Trump an idiot on account he's successfully gunning for POTUS.

your spin on that is i am misinforming the group and blaming it because i haven't wiped the cobwebs out of my eyes yet.



whateve bro. merry christmas man. happy new year and all that too.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the guy is a successful developer and leading the polls to become POTUS, i'm not in a position to call him an idiot.

:::::::

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Nope, not even close. Latest poll....

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton MSNBC/Telemundo/Marist
Clinton 52, Trump 41 Clinton +11

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election 2016 Presidential Polls

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Yea but that's not what you said. You said he was leading the polls to become President and he clearly isnt. No 'gotcha' about it.

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

You fail at having the ability to articulate your thoughts correctly.

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Your logic....adults are mind readers and know what you meant to say.

Don't spread misinformation and you won't be corrected. Pretty simple.

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Now your excuse for saying Trump is leading the polls to become President is because its 7AM and yet you want to continue arguing your position?

Maybe you should stick with conversing with Johnnyclicks, you two seem to hold the same views.

[Sly]

Trump will be done in a week!

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

bro.

look at what you're doing here. i stated i can't call Trump an idiot on account he's successfully gunning for POTUS.

That's not what you said, you said he is leading the polls to become POTUS.

Don't spread misinformation and you won't be corrected. Pretty simple.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by tony286

I can see him having a very tough time if he is elected. As the owner of an empire, he can say do this and its done. President is a very different beast. lol.
I also find it funny, if Obama said the same thing Trump said, there would be calls for his head and how he thinks he is a dictator.

This is exactly what I think. He is a business man with his empire; He says "do" and it gets done. It doesn't work that way in politics. With politics it's six months of planning before you announce anything, six months of selling it to Congress etc, another six months of selling it to the public, then another six months to find the funding. The entire time you will have to fight off attacks from people who oppose your idea, and even after they've lost the battle they will keep on fighting you tooth and nail - a classic example is Obamacare. While all of this is going on, the President is distracted by ten thousand other things - Hurricanes, flooding, shootings, terrorist attacks - and then suddenly there is a huge scandal in a department you have little control over, be it the IRS, DEA, or the Pentagon.

And this is what Trump is not going to be able to handle. He's going to say one dumb thing - such as his comment about Transgendered people in the military - and it will set off a firestorm and debate that will suck up two weeks of news time.

As it stands right now, Trump has the largest percentage of the vote from the Republican party, but it won't be enough to carry the day. Currently as it stands, it doesn't matter who he goes up against - Hillary or Bernie - he losses. Trump will not carry the two demographics Republicans need the most, Hispanics and women, and in the mean time he is pissing off everyone else including the disabled, Muslims, and transgendered. He is most likely pissing of the Asians as well who haven't forgotten what America did to them during the 1940s.

Trump is good at marketing himself. He pushes the right buttons to get and keep our attention. After that he's got nothing.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

That's not what you said, you said he is leading the polls to become POTUS.

Don't spread misinformation and you won't be corrected. Pretty simple.

this is obviously a very important issue with you, you better clear your schedule today because i'm not letting you off the hook on it so you're going to be here a while correcting me, you're all in.

so again, my comment was made in part to support my view that i can't claim Trump is an idiot. that's not spreading misinformation, that's sayin I, me, not you, not them, I can't call Trump an idiot because he is leading the polls for potus.

at the most, that's my making a conclusion on an incorrect fact, that's not at all spreading misinformation. you like to over-dramatize, just like you're making a big issue of correcting the internet here.

[dyna mo]

oh and fyi, i'm fully caffeinated now mother fucker.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Trump will destroy Bernie or Hillary

jtfc.

you're in this thread making wild exclamations and get a free fucking pass.

i make a slight mistake making a supporting comment on why i can't call a billionaire developer running a successful campaign for potus an idiot and get a libtard on my ass.

[Sly]

Trunp is leading the Republican Party.

Hillary is leading the Democratic Party.

Comparing them against each other right now is silly because nobody can predict what everyone else will do after their pick is out of the race. They are both leading.

What an asinine argument.

[dyna mo]

what the fuck is going on in this fucking thread!!!!!

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

[t]hey need to provide GPS information to the internet provider. With this information you can either shut down their internet access or capture and log it.

No need to "shut down the internet" or spy on everyone else ...

1. The Islamic Terrorist State has operatives in many countries.
2. Even if a satellite gets an IP, and uses a VPN, then tor; there is no way to find the the exit IP.
3. The Islamic Terrorist State "cyber soldiers" would be idiots to use satellite phones as their signals could be triangulated by air and the drones zoom in on their GPS position -- BOOM!

So, it's a moot issue.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Sly

Trunp is leading the Republican Party.

Hillary is leading the Democratic Party.

Comparing them against each other right now is silly because nobody can predict what everyone else will do after their pick is out of the race. They are both leading.

What an asinine argument.

ftr, i wasn't arguing that.