klinton

congrats on trying to win IDEOLOGICAL war with bombs and more bombs that will lead to more and more fanatism.

Sarn

shiraz9944

Cute little graphic but no I'm afraid you're mistaken, without all those neat little things we build we'd be as pathetic and helpless as the rest of the world. After all wasn't it the US that had to basically start from scratch BOTH times in WW1 and WW2 after the wonderful League of Nations (UN) outlawed war forever both times LOL. We had no military with much offensive capability until 1941, then we had to clean up the world's mess again, twice in 40 years so we just decided to keep our toys and not let that happen again. You should be thankful. We don't want to play the world's police, if you live here you know that sentiment is not for being all over the place refereeing everybody. Nobody else will do it, has the ability or will power and if we don't someone bigger and badder will come and really fuck your world up. Imagine what Putin would do if he didn't have the US to worry about every night. He'd probably have gobbled up half of Eastern Europe already aiming for Western soon. There would be no South Korea or Japan for that matter. Taiwan would be part of the PRRC as well as Hong Kong and most of the South China sea area. Pakistan would tear into India and reverse all the time. Israel would have destroyed all it's Arab enemies by now if we didn't have to restrain them and beg to let the diplomatic course work.

Bladewire

Have you read your political posts since 2002? You are 100% anti America everything I read in your history, no deviation. Post here 5 pro American posts you've made over the last 15 years, just 5, other than pro Trump.

shiraz9944

As for not being Free, and having Democracy. I'm pretty fucking free here in the USA, not really worried about going down to the market to grab groceries and being blown to bits by a land mine or stray mortar. Then I'll stop by the bank and not have to cross my fingers I'm allowed to get some currency today, and then worry that IF I have a home when I get back we still have power cause you know half the world doesn't even have power or running water. Then I'll get on the net and work, which wouldn't exist also if we didn't ya know invent the thing then build the infrastructure for it all to work, ah capitalism and democracy, it's just so damn bad!

Before you say so why not spend the money to fix that? We do, we spend hundred of billions a year to help others but first and foremost they need to want to actually help themselves and do some work and always we are going to protect ourselves from the savage world that is half the globe, sad to say. If we just packed up all our expensive war mongering toys as you call them and went home and only used them when our direct border was threatened the globe would be on fire or nearly destroyed already. You just don't like it and I'm sorry for that. There must a reason everyone is coming here legally or illegally. There are really nasty people out there that would love nothing more than to cut your head off for looking at them wrong or rape a woman for wearing a skirt that shows any skin, or are just plain fucking nuts like North Korea. Who's gonna protect us from all these baddies? Because they WILL come knocking sooner or later. Europe? Canada? The UK is only nation in Europe that would take the same stance as we do which is why we're closer to them than anyone else. Putin would roll over poland right thru Germany and France within three weeks just like Hilter did and those before him.

klinton

"pathetic as the rest of the world" - heheh ok, let it be that way :-)

I think that you somehow misunderstood my point. I think that - sadly - there is no possibility to win a war WITH BOMBS AND ARMS with fanatic ideology that believe in better life after death...and doesnt value life at all.
The only way to win such "war" is to eradicate that type of thinking that leads to such type of fanatism. Which in my opinion would be - educate people, have them love material things and current life more than life after death (that they are supposed to get only if they will blow up themselves because some fat sheikh that fucks 15 years old virgins IN THIS LIFE just told these naive and stupid people to do...)
yeah I know, I know...it all sounds like hippie bullshit but IMO it is like it is...
the realism is that - sadly - there will be always bad and good people, and I agree that good people should have means to stand for their values..that I share and understand.
so just

also, if you would think more about it - Im pretty sure that you would start to wonder if actually SOME terrorist groups have SOME connections with intelligence agencies of SOME & VARIOUS countries....at least the guys that I name "fat sheikhs". not the usual typical useful idiots that will blow themselves up. sadly it is like that.

klinton

cool, but what point he would have in doing that ? better to trade and maintain status quo than make enemies everywhere...its not XIV century anymore...these days you win wars on the west with information, diversion, disinformation, trade influence etc. and little small infrastructure sabotage here and there..in worst case
this is what I would do at least, maybe because I'm not crazy as some politicans and world leaders are ;-)

klinton

1,2,3, GOOOOO !

VRPdommy

If the US would quit helping everyone, there would be less war.
Israel would probably settle their differences but not when it looks like they can get more.

And if that were settled, there would be less excuses made in other conflicts. But I am sure they would come up with some new ones.

War is often easy to sell till we see body bags or it's not your kids getting killed to make you ask if this is worth it.

What exactly would we be fighting for in Syria & Iraq

If there was no oil over there, we could care less. Just look at Africa.
And who will gain the most benefit from our actions to stabilize the region.... China.
Everyone is willing to send BLOOD & TREASURE over there but not spend the same here to make ourselves more independent.

I have been a supporter of Alt Energy as a matter of national security for 20 years. I don't hug trees but I don't destroy them for the sake of it either.

So how about a war for Independence of foreign needs at home.
It might even lower your taxes and create jobs 'here'.