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Old 04-04-2020, 09:05 PM   #51
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Old 04-04-2020, 09:07 PM   #52
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"To help stop coronavirus, everyone should be wearing face masks. The science is clear"

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Trump wont allow 3m to ship masks to Canadians.
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I lived in Malaysia 3 years, worked 2 months in Shanghai, several months in Bangkok. Asians tend to wear masks even in the good times, I think that the Avian Bird Flu of 2003 started that...
I always thought it began in China during the eighties/nineties due to terrible pollution from the factories. America out-sourced its' manufacturing to China, China built thousands of factories causing massive air pollution, millions began wearing masks.

That was my take on it anyway.
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Old 04-05-2020, 07:53 AM   #55
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Talk about a false sense of security . . .
Not quite ! It is a simple math My Dear Watson:

Cloth mask stops about 80% of exhaled virus, and stops about 60 % of inhaled one.

So, if an asymptomatic carrier ( about 20 % population) exhales 100 Units of the virus, only 20 Units becomes airborne, the rest is contained in his mask. A passing person wearing a mask stops about 60 % of the 20 Units, so he potentially inhales a maximum of 12 Units of the original amount. Such reduced load definitely reduces the risk of a full blown infection.

Argument against the mask is akin to refuse to use a condom since it is only 90 % effective.
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Old 04-05-2020, 08:24 AM   #56
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I always thought it began in China during the eighties/nineties due to terrible pollution from the factories. America out-sourced its' manufacturing to China, China built thousands of factories causing massive air pollution, millions began wearing masks.

That was my take on it anyway.
Makes sense about the pollution. Every year in Indonesia and Malaysia the palm oil plantations burn vegetation to clear the fields - a/k/a smog season. First, Indonesia blames Malaysia, then Malaysia blames Indonesia and Singapore blames everyone.

Then the masks come out. Some years are worse than others. Looks like last year's season was particularly bad...

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Old 04-05-2020, 09:50 AM   #57
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World Health Organisation reverses course, now supports wearing face masks in public

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...e-now-supports
Interesting. So the WHO didn't realize this before? Or is there an ulterior motive?

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I am waiting for the coming TRUMP masks. You know The Donald will brand them and sell them for $99.95, LOL
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I lived in Malaysia 3 years, worked 2 months in Shanghai, several months in Bangkok. Asians tend to wear masks even in the good times, I think that the Avian Bird Flu of 2003 started that...
i think it was SARS
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Old 04-07-2020, 02:42 AM   #60
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In Toyko & Soul they walk altime with mask to protect first themself from air conditions. Thats the reason why they have at moment so low cases after infects.

Aspecialy Europe is in thiscase to slow. But back to your question: Yes i feel safer when i see people with masks, but make this sense when they still smoke cigarettes before/after for the including death rate?
They tb vaccine everyone there. Proven to be why they are better off.
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When I see someone without a mask.
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Actually no ... it makes me feel how much the situation is bad .. but we must wear it .. it is Important.
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Actually no ... it makes me feel how much the situation is bad .. but we must wear it .. it is Important.
Agreed! And the shortage of masks can be overcome ... ...

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Agreed! And the shortage of masks can be overcome ... ...

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Of course there are a lot of other factors, like the size of the countries, their healthcare systems, their preparedness (excessive testing and contract tracing) and how disciplined people are

But as other people said, even if it only helps a certain percentage it still can have a huge impact.

Also you don't just wear it to protect yourself from not getting it, a big part of it is if you do have it (but are asymptomatic) you are far less likely to spread it to others. That's the biggest help of the masks which most people in the west don't think about, most think it's to protect them, but the main thing is to protect others.

In Asia it's very common to wear masks when you are sick, usually people mainly were masks to protect others.
The same countries have Tb vaccine.
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Yes we are not allowed to shop anywhere if we do not have mask. Its better and safer
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Well, technically is no need as it's closed space, but since you need to have it moment you step out, that is probably reason why people have it now inside cars as well.
The few times I have been out, I have had mine on in the car just so I don't have to mess with putting it on once I am where I need to be. Mine has to be positioned just right so I don't fog up my glasses.
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The few times I have been out, I have had mine on in the car just so I don't have to mess with putting it on once I am where I need to be. Mine has to be positioned just right so I don't fog up my glasses.
I'm always out in my big rig. I put on a mask when I get out now. Yeah it fogs up my glasses too, so I take them off. I need them to drive and read only.
They take my temp at the places I deliver before letting me off.one place has me wash my hands before entering!
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Yeah it fogs up my glasses too, so I take them off. I need them to drive and read only.
If you need glasses to drive (because you're nearsighted) as well as to read (farsighted) then wouldn't you need your glasses all the time?
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