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Old 01-30-2004, 04:52 AM   #51
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Old 01-30-2004, 05:19 AM   #52
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here is another site for ccbill to look at:



links to 16 yo site right there as plain as anything.

Wow that low what did you setup an account and change the banner..

nice.. it's gone now.

Edit: nice since you just sent me an email with exactly..

THANKS ASSHOLE

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showthread.php?threadid=227594

Your ip matches the person who created that account.

new low for you..
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Old 01-30-2004, 05:23 AM   #53
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bomb the motherfuckers

Kirsten, why does your underage friend needs a pay-site? What kind of people/audience does it target?
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Old 01-30-2004, 05:27 AM   #54
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Pedo man it gets worse like a 12 year old is coming named maggie..
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:02 AM   #55
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I doubt they are really that young.
Look @ Teen Kelly, half of the fact shes so popular is that she looks young.
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:13 AM   #56
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We know the rules very very well, and don't link our 18+ sites to anything under 18!

Stephanie's my friend i am no pervert. I am a 19 yo girl. :P
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And most importantly, i am not a SLUT.
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interesting that you point that out Kirsten... you don't link your 18+ plus sites to anything under 18.


so what your saying is you have two traffic circles
one for your over 18 stuff
and one for your pedo buddys?

gotta keep'um sperated (damn offspring in my head now)

Stephanie is your friend... so what your saying is your contributing to the deliquancy of a minor?

your pushing pedo's and stalkers down on her, you pushing the low end of our society (right behind the christain right) oh I am sure she can handle herself.. espcaily with a friend like you helping her along. Why would ANYONE want to allow there daughter at 15 to be doing this type of work, if she's 18 SHE has the choice. I don't care if you work in porn if your 18 you have (or should have) the maturity to make that call. But 15? don't you think she looks up to you? see's what you do? see's how much money you make?

I've met cam whores that were underage hitting up for work on cam boards/cam chats? why? cause they have friends like you that encourge them and help them.

if your over 18 have a fucking blast! if you can sign a contract to die for your country you can go work in porn be my guest!

just fucked up... its sites like this that make our lives as legit webmasters trying to actually make it fucked up, your the extreme and the christain right is the other and its those of us in the middle that are getting beat the fuck cause of the assholes on either side of us. Have you no level of morality....

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PS: to the parents of said children, me and some of my buddy's wanna meet ya in a dark alley........

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Old 01-30-2004, 02:49 PM   #57
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anyone realize that her site is not porn and non nude for the most part?
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I heard thru the grape vine about this one and it was deleted earlier today, probably hacked and deleted from a post from kirsten so i just thought i would post it again for ccbill to check it out.


Here is another site for ccbill to look at http://www.josiemodel.ca/auto/


Just in case here it is again http://www.josiemodel.ca/auto/

Clearly linked to under 18 kiddie porn sites.

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Old 01-30-2004, 05:42 PM   #59
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Radik like i could care what your stupid sites have on them or waste my time planting fake links

you are such a loser!
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Old 01-30-2004, 05:44 PM   #60
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Our models are NON NUDE esp. if PROTRAYED to be under 18.
Maggie is not 12, she is now 19 as well.

We treat them awesome and their privacy is 100% protected.
I who am just a few years older works with them and there is no weird shit going on behind the scenes.

We are NOT LIKE THE PEDO SITES OUT THERE NOR WILL BE LINK TO ANY
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:17 PM   #61
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These guys are not stupid members. you really should stop bumping this..
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:22 PM   #62
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Our models are NON NUDE esp. if PROTRAYED to be under 18.
Maggie is not 12, she is now 19 as well.

We treat them awesome and their privacy is 100% protected.
I who am just a few years older works with them and there is no weird shit going on behind the scenes.

We are NOT LIKE THE PEDO SITES OUT THERE NOR WILL BE LINK TO ANY
Girl, use your head for 5 damn minutes before you post. How old does one have to be to join your underage sites? 14, 15? Oh wait, you take credit cards so that's 18 and up. Who in the hell do you think is signing up for your "innocent" sites? You are catoring to perverts, child molesters, and pedo's. Is that how you want to make your money?

You are either really ignorant, or you know what's going on and you're just sorry. Which one is it?
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Wow!! i got my first group of official haters for avenublue..

Even got a death threat, lensman i must get a prize now!!..
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Old 01-30-2004, 07:15 PM   #64
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Our models are NON NUDE esp. if PROTRAYED to be under 18.
Maggie is not 12, she is now 19 as well.

We treat them awesome and their privacy is 100% protected.
I who am just a few years older works with them and there is no weird shit going on behind the scenes.

We are NOT LIKE THE PEDO SITES OUT THERE NOR WILL BE LINK TO ANY
I happen to know for a fact, that Kirsten has an honest site. I can tell you all that her site was investigated a while ago, and the investigation found nothing illegal with her site or sites she was linking to. Leave Kirsten alone, she's an honest business person just looking to earn a buck.
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I happen to know for a fact, that Kirsten has an honest site. I can tell you all that her site was investigated a while ago, and the investigation found nothing illegal with her site or sites she was linking to. Leave Kirsten alone, she's an honest business person just looking to earn a buck.
Why do her models all have to be under 18 and posing in sexual ways? No matter how she spins it, her little non-nude underage pay sites cater to pedos. Sorry.


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I happen to know for a fact, that Kirsten has an honest site. I can tell you all that her site was investigated a while ago, and the investigation found nothing illegal with her site or sites she was linking to. Leave Kirsten alone, she's an honest business person just looking to earn a buck.
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Old 01-30-2004, 07:38 PM   #67
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Thanks...got our Risk Management on it. Just for the record this is what our Content Guidelines state:

1. Underage Content ? Verotel DOES NOT process transactions for websites displaying "underage" or related content. Verotel defines underage content as any content with at least one person under sixteen (16) years of age male or female displaying naked upper body including chest or breast or naked lower body including genetalia or pubic area, where at least one of these persons is engaged in sexually explicit conduct.

PLEASE NOTE: Personal information regarding all customers showing this kind of content or affiliated with this kind of content will be forwarded to the police, Interpol and nine worldwide anti-Child Pornographic alliances.

2. Child / Teen Modeling ? Verotel DOES NOT process transactions for websites displaying any PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 12 years of age, in any form, fully dressed, semi dressed or naked, in any type of environment or position(s).

PLEASE NOTE: Verotel may require proof of age of any person(s) or model(s) appearing on Client?s webiste.

9. Definition:

Sexually explicit conduct is a sexual act involving penetration, masturbation or sadomasochistic abuse for the purpose of sexual stimulation, lewd exhibition of the genitals, anus or pubic area and/or any combinations thereof.

so a 14 year old can have a site and have it proccessed.
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Old 01-30-2004, 07:55 PM   #69
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thats just wrong - she is saying a 15 year old is going to do sheer stuff.... how is that different than nude?

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there will be some sheer photos, tho.
so ya - saying a 15 year old is going to do sheer shit.

fuck you pedo bitch!
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so a 14 year old can have a site and have it proccessed.
This brings up another point. If a teen girl is interested in legitimate modelling, why does she need a *pay* site? Why not put up a portfolio of sample fashion and swimwear pics and some contact info for an agent and seek actual modelling work?


...rather than peddling their bodies to pedos. Some of the ages listed in Kirsten's little network say 12, 14, 15..... some of the girls are in thongs or in bubble baths seemingly nude. Fuck, I've said all I'm going to say here. The authorities are working on finding ways of shutting this shit down.
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I heard thru the grape vine about this one and it was deleted earlier today, probably hacked and deleted from a post from kirsten so i just thought i would post it again for ccbill to check it out.


Here is another site for ccbill to look at http://www.josiemodel.ca/auto/


Just in case here it is again http://www.josiemodel.ca/auto/

Clearly linked to under 18 kiddie porn sites.

Hey everyone meet Kirstens boss.. verify by going to her fanclub and seeing roxi's domain that is also in his profile.. I suspect this is the guy that has caused me to call the rcmp.

Oh, in the future dude?.. if a gfy mod deletes the post don't repost it..

Keep up the good work.. this is easy.
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everyone meet radik.. he ran my site when it was underage.
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Your 24, kirsten 23?.. you have never been underage you lie to gain favour in your pedo market.

Your just pissed because i exposed you.. now you have verotel as your main processor and have not told your affiliates.

Your a train wreck...

Thread is yours, anymore posts from me would now seem like kicking the dead body..

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Kirsten, why does your underage friend needs a pay-site? What kind of people/audience does it target?
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Thanks...got our Risk Management on it. Just for the record this is what our Content Guidelines state:

1. Underage Content ? Verotel DOES NOT process transactions for websites displaying "underage" or related content. Verotel defines underage content as any content with at least one person under sixteen (16) years of age male or female displaying naked upper body including chest or breast or naked lower body including genetalia or pubic area, where at least one of these persons is engaged in sexually explicit conduct.

PLEASE NOTE: Personal information regarding all customers showing this kind of content or affiliated with this kind of content will be forwarded to the police, Interpol and nine worldwide anti-Child Pornographic alliances.
This is a quite sneaky way to cover your ass.
I guess I will join Battus to go to your party and hand out some nice print-outs of a nude 13yo.

This statement, in short, means you CAN (and WILL AND DO) process for sites with underage content where the so-called 'models' are FULLY NAKED.

After all, posing naked is art, not a sexual explicit conduct, right? (YES, that's sarcasm people)
Even in the Netherlands that's not allowed....
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I think people here are rather naive to think that this "kirsten" character that someone is posting with, is actually the model on the site. This is more than likely her webmaster, or the photographer that shoots the content for her. Or her pimp, one or the other...
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I think people here are rather naive to think that this "kirsten" character that someone is posting with, is actually the model on the site. This is more than likely her webmaster, or the photographer that shoots the content for her. Or her pimp, one or the other...
bingo. the poster's wording is that of a male.

this is fucking disgusting.... get this thread deleted. these people don't need any more exposure.

there is no such thing as bad press...
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looks like they run a network of these sites and all use verotel.

just look at the toplist sites.

and are pissed now. that they may loose verotel.


seems more like a operation..

there is no kristian
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Hey, i have an idea. How about your party in Amsterdam next week i'll distribute some pics to the guests of what you guys process.
Sounds like a plan to me. Lets put these pedo pushing fucks out of business. If you send traffic to anyone under 18 you are no better then the pedo that signs up! Profiting from underage shit is just way fucked up!
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2. Child / Teen Modeling ? Verotel DOES NOT process transactions for websites displaying any PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 12 years of age, in any form, fully dressed, semi dressed or naked, in any type of environment or position(s).

PLEASE NOTE: Verotel may require proof of age of any person(s) or model(s) appearing on Client?s webiste.
Last time I set up a web site with Verotel it was done instantly via your web control panel. There was no review period or any delays at all. Do you review newly added sites or do you just load up random sites to check for compliance?

I know you guys process for at least one site that seems to be bending the rules. Firstly, personally I think this girl is below the age claimed on her site (13). Secondly, the entry page shows her in a mesh top and either tight fitting or see-through underpants. You can clearly see her nipples and the line of her labia. (I'm going red just typing this freaking sentence...)

I won't post the URL here for obvious reasons, contact me at rowan/at\picminer.com if you want it.
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kirsten sounds like a smart cookie.
Really, wonder how often her site gets rip?
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Proccessors like vertol is what gives the industry a bad name.

There is absolutly no reason why a 13 year old would need a members area, even if its a non nude "modeling site"

especially if there getting traffic from porn sites
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I happen to know for a fact, that Kirsten has an honest site. I can tell you all that her site was investigated a while ago, and the investigation found nothing illegal with her site or sites she was linking to. Leave Kirsten alone, she's an honest business person just looking to earn a buck.
Really? Wasnt kirstens room just outed in the ccbill changeover that showed who exactly was shaving like mofos?
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I think people here are rather naive to think that this "kirsten" character that someone is posting with, is actually the model on the site. This is more than likely her webmaster, or the photographer that shoots the content for her. Or her pimp, one or the other...
Actually the Pimp is Kirstens mother who got her doing internet non nude modeling at age 14 thru some other company who she claimed ripped her off. Now she has become part of a mother and daughter team who manages and pimps other girls and runs her site. We talked quite a bit back in the day i helped her get some exposure and once things took off for her that was the end of that.

Kirsten is a Canadian citizen but her company is registered in the US and in her own name to comply with Visa regs. All her content is shot by a paid photographer who is a also friend of Kirstens whom she went to school with. Her webmaster gets a cut of the sales as payment for their managing the site and scripts for her so im sure they too would defend her at all costs. The owners of her hosting company also hang on her message forum and are fully aware of what she is doing.

She now claims this 15yr old model is really 19 but this was all a marketing ploy they were testing. So i guess she needs to go get a copy of marketing underage sites for dummies. If this model was really 19 then i doubt CCBill would have yanked the processing and she would not be needing to use Verotel to hide. But i have all her info including a scan of her DL so there is no way she can hide behind her fake whois bullshit.
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Proccessors like vertol is what gives the industry a bad name.

There is absolutly no reason why a 13 year old would need a members area, even if its a non nude "modeling site"

especially if there getting traffic from porn sites
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by b-vault
[B]I heard thru the grape vine about this one and it was deleted earlier today, probably hacked and deleted from a post from kirsten so i just thought i would post it again for ccbill to check it out.


Here is another site for ccbill to look at http://www.josiemodel.ca/auto/


Just in case here it is again http://www.josiemodel.ca/auto/

Clearly linked to under 18 kiddie porn sites.
very bad feel bad for the girls
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:41 AM   #91
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this whole thread makes me sick.
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Old 02-02-2004, 08:59 AM   #92
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So your not allows to use ccbill but you can drive traffic and everything else required to a verotel account, and get away with it?..

EDIT: I DON"T CARE IF IT"S NON NUDE...SICK FUCKERS LOOK ELSEWHERE!

I'm confused, ccbill called me once to complain about a domain with young and teen in it..
She as to stop eating Junk food that little fat whore. She will need to change her niche to BBW in a few years
Kirstens-bbw-room.com maybe you guys just register it before she does....

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Old 02-02-2004, 09:01 AM   #93
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WTF is this thread about?
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:29 AM   #94
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Radik never had underage links on Josie's toplist, I would put some serious coin that he was setup. He's a top-notch businessman in my book.

I'm curious where all these Kirsten supporters are coming from, especially the guy in South Florida. What sites do you run man?
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Old 02-07-2004, 08:37 PM   #95
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Yeah i was also curious of the people who showed support?.. lol pedo producers unite.
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Old 03-13-2004, 11:25 AM   #96
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ccbill dealt with it yesterday it seems..

Good for ccbill..

The whole story is kinda funny that original '-18 site' that started this topic, was bounced from verotel yesterday

They quickly added three years to her age, and sent it off for approval to ccbill..

I guess they got caught.
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Old 03-13-2004, 11:28 AM   #97
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I'm confused...is it a site you're talking about...or a 15 year old chick?

If it is the second....man, you're getting on thin ice...
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HOLY CRAPPP

first of all we didn't mean to link stephanie to our over 18 sites.
You will notice she is not on ANY of our sites links page and wont ever be, and neither will any other underage stuff, ever.

But thanks for pointing it out to the whole world!
Ccbill let me know very quickly that i was sending hits to my stephanie site from my kirstens-room.com site and i of course got rid of it just about as fast as i
could..

We know the rules very very well, and don't link our 18+ sites to anything under 18!

Stephanie's my friend i am no pervert. I am a 19 yo girl. :P

And I start at 25% with my affiliates which works well for me, and my best ones are at 60%.
If you are an affiliate, just email me to work something out.. i am not cheap.

And most importantly, i am not a SLUT.
No, you're just a piece of shit scum who profits from pedophilia. Way to go
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is it wrong of me to wanna jwek off now?
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is it wrong of me to wanna jwek off now?


watch out or the morality police will GET YOU!!!!
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