Radik

So your not allows to use ccbill but you can drive traffic and everything else required to a verotel account, and get away with it?..

EDIT: I DON"T CARE IF IT"S NON NUDE...SICK FUCKERS LOOK ELSEWHERE!

I'm confused, ccbill called me once to complain about a domain with young and teen in it..

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a1ka1ine

wow that came out of nowhere :-o

Dirty F

I'd hit it!

s0laris2

hmmm using ccbill for main processor , and then verotel for underage...


This bs has to stop

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tiramos

wtf pedopoon

Shoehorn!

Man, that girl has a hell of a chest on her for being 15.

Kel

This stuff simply hurts all of us legitimates in the end and will ultimately persuade the 'Big V' to say 'we want out of this industry - go use Mastercard'.

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they should just wait three more yrs

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Hmm it says she is 19. ? where did you get the 15 from ?

laura99

On stephanies site it says 15.

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pamphage

i was confused by his post at first too. kirsten is over 18 and processed by ccbill, but she is sending traffic to the other girl who is underage and processed by verotel.

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SBJ

yup.. I can't believe people actually promote Kirsten though cause she only pays fucking 25%

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s0laris2

it looks like kirstens-room Owns the 15 year old girls site

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cluck

I'd hit the shit out of that 15 year old if noone would find out about it.

And verotel processes 8year old model sites. Last time I pointed that out noone seemed pissed but me.

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Radik

Well since ccbill reps read this board.. i guess we shall see what position they take.

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wyldblyss

I didn't like the way some guy was asking if the girl was going to show more skin and was told "no she is only 15' but then in the next post she goes on to say that there will be sheer photo's....baiting them....that is sick!

thekebie

kirsten sounds like a smart cookie.

pamphage

lol. they aren't going to take a position on this.

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looky_lou

I make most of my money from my lowest % paying sponsor.

If this program converts 1:250 and you have another sponsor that pays 60% and converts your traffic 1:900, which one did you make more money with.

I would rather have 25% of $5,000.00 than 60% $2,000.00

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rowan

Wasn't it kirstens-room that had the ccbill rebills set to 0?

25% of the initial signup fee... whoopey doo. I bet they also charge the processing fee to you too.

JSA Matt

I guess the ASACP is getting lazy

austinth

That little slut lives here in Victoria. I think MakingCoin, Rip and myself should sign here to movie deal.

ONS

Maybe its time to boycott CCBill until they clean up the filth and it wont be the first time.

The frontpage of that other site at the bottom of the page its clearly aiming to pull in those seeking underage sex. I wont even post the terms on here for fear i might get banned on the spot.

xgirls

15...interesting...where's ACK when you need him? doesn't that violate their AUP? and if so, maybe we should all just email ccbill and complain about kirsten so that she loses her ccbill...then again...i'm mean

FireFoz

Yeah on top it says she's 15...

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foolio

thats just wrong - she is saying a 15 year old is going to do sheer stuff.... how is that different than nude?

fucking pedos - i bet sexed has 5 memberships to that site

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Vitasoy

that is pretty sad

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V_RocKs

Verotel makes CP big business... I guess they have different laws in Europe. What is really scarey also is the quality of the website and crispness of the pictures at cathymodel.de, it is as though someone spent some serious money on these websites, that means they are making serious money too.

I'm mildly retarded.

pamphage

all you do by posting those urls here is drive traffic to their site.

and I am too.

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natkejs

Our laws for CP here in Europe are pretty much the same as yours. Well there are some countries that goes down to the age 17, I'm sure you know about it.

But 15 ... seems pretty fUkked to me.

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V_RocKs

Well most of those websites were kicked out of CCBILL, but Kirsten still has her archived picks of when she was 15,16,17 so shouldn't CCBILL be cancelling her acount right about now?

Dawgy

so Verotel processes CP... how many sponsors use Verotel?
lots i think?

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V_RocKs

No, verotel does its own sponsor programs... I have promoted their gay sites before. They converted well because they were new with their own content. Then they went to shit...

cluck

I did underage nonnude sites when I was an underage nonnude teen. It seemed like the right thing to do when I was 16.

Back then CCBill was THE processor to use. Nowadays it's verotel. Back then though the only nonnude paysites with minors I remember promoting though had like 16-17year old girls in bikinis. That's not so bad when you think about it, because they're legal to fuck, just not to have naked pics of.

These 8yo "fashion model" paysites on verotel are just ridiculous though. And the fact that it's obviously adults making them makes it worse. Back then it was high school kids making and posting galleries of hot high school girls their own age and getting money off the traffic to boot. Now it's just... sick.

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VeriSexy

I don't dare to look

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Verotel

Would you please be so kind to provide the URL for the 8 year old model site?

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natkejs

I wanna move to Amsterdam right now, gimme work!

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cluck

There's your girls age 3-14. Just keep clicking links and you'll see one 8year old camel toe after the other. Act like verotel doesn't process for kids.

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Dirty F

The sites mentioned earlier, i can live with those...who are Americans to talk about 16/17 yr olds posting non nude on the web while they send out 18 yr olds to war to get killed.

But these sites are simply wrong.
1 Would the fuck wants to look at not even fully grown girls?
2 Who are the parent allowing this (prolly some fucked up Russians)
3 Verotel should be shot for processing this shit.

Fucking scum on the earth.

TheSenator

I am pretty much liberal....but this shit does bother me...I don't think government should get involved. I rather see us webmaster do something instead of government.
1. Sent an email to Verotel
2. Sent an email to the ISP
3. DOS attack
4. Hijack Domain names

Verotel

Thanks...got our Risk Management on it. Just for the record this is what our Content Guidelines state:

1. Underage Content ? Verotel DOES NOT process transactions for websites displaying "underage" or related content. Verotel defines underage content as any content with at least one person under sixteen (16) years of age male or female displaying naked upper body including chest or breast or naked lower body including genetalia or pubic area, where at least one of these persons is engaged in sexually explicit conduct.

PLEASE NOTE: Personal information regarding all customers showing this kind of content or affiliated with this kind of content will be forwarded to the police, Interpol and nine worldwide anti-Child Pornographic alliances.

2. Child / Teen Modeling ? Verotel DOES NOT process transactions for websites displaying any PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 12 years of age, in any form, fully dressed, semi dressed or naked, in any type of environment or position(s).

PLEASE NOTE: Verotel may require proof of age of any person(s) or model(s) appearing on Client?s webiste.

9. Definition:

Sexually explicit conduct is a sexual act involving penetration, masturbation or sadomasochistic abuse for the purpose of sexual stimulation, lewd exhibition of the genitals, anus or pubic area and/or any combinations thereof.

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CDSmith

1. Pedos
2. People who are driven by money only. I keep telling everyone money isn't everything, yet so many here seem to think it is. It Isn't.
3. Agreed.



8 year olds doing upskirt any panty shots and being featured in paysites...... prison isn't good enough for the sick adults that do this to kids. Death penalty isn't enough either. We need to bring back medieval torture in this case. Long slow torture.

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Dirty F

3: We are hypocrites: We know damn well were are scum and process for anything that moves, even if its just a baby. We accept those sites and make money from it. However when it is mentioned on a public board we will act like this is a mistake and "investigate"it.

Dirty F

Wheres your office address in Amsterdam?
Im gonna take a shit in your mailbox.

Hey, i have an idea. How about your party in Amsterdam next week i'll distribute some pics to the guests of what you guys process.

petepete

From what I understand here: http://www.c.html they wrote that they had the parents' consent for the photosession and the pictures were taken in the parents' presence...

Can someone translate this correctly???

It's getting just hillarious...

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Kirsten

HOLY CRAPPP

first of all we didn't mean to link stephanie to our over 18 sites.
You will notice she is not on ANY of our sites links page and wont ever be, and neither will any other underage stuff, ever.

But thanks for pointing it out to the whole world!
Ccbill let me know very quickly that i was sending hits to my stephanie site from my kirstens-room.com site and i of course got rid of it just about as fast as i
could..

We know the rules very very well, and don't link our 18+ sites to anything under 18!

Stephanie's my friend i am no pervert. I am a 19 yo girl. :P

And I start at 25% with my affiliates which works well for me, and my best ones are at 60%.
If you are an affiliate, just email me to work something out.. i am not cheap.

And most importantly, i am not a SLUT.

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Dawgy

theres a pic of some little kid on preteenangel.com in the tub, wearing nothing but suds. its obviously posed, not a candid 'i caught my kid in the tub' pic like most parents have.

so, that means the photographers have the kids naked.

posing in a tub is not anything a child model would ever do, or need to do, in order to "get a job in modeling" like these sites claim is their purpose.

but i guess since verotel says its not sexual, it's ok.

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Trax

impressive how many CP sites you guys know
really
good job posting them here

Kirsten

here is another site for ccbill to look at:



links to 16 yo site right there as plain as anything.

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