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erotictrance · 02-03-2002, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BV
Also another note:
CCBill sites get hit harder that Ibills from what I have seen. I think this has to do with the fact that the surfer can pick his own username and password.

I also heard that CCBill had a problem with eliminating expired passwords ...

But I also heard from other people that the problem was resolved ...

I dunno what the current situation is on that issue ...

Phil21 · 02-03-2002, 09:51 PM

Actually, I think you have a point..

A couple of my customers refused the "protect your paysite from password traders" service for the whopping $10/mo we offer it at, so a posting usually lasts and hour or two before I notice a 20mbit/sec spike and go and kill the fucker.

While it costs them like 50GB in bandwidth (for 2 hours usage. yeesh.), I've noticed in the proceeding week or so memberships for their sites jump considerably.

Go figure.

I think if I owned a paysite, I'd prolly "leak" a couple l/p's around and let them go a little while, and kill 'em. Also prolly make a "fake" membership area that requires a login, but only have it be a bunch of galleries. ;) (I'm sure people have done this shit, I know I'm going to.. fuck it.)

-Phil

BV · 02-03-2002, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by erotictrance

I also heard that CCBill had a problem with eliminating expired passwords ...

But I also heard from other people that the problem was resolved ...

I dunno what the current situation is on that issue ...

Yah I had the expired password problem as well. These were always the passwords being shared too! After several atempts at ccbill fixing my password script it finally expires the old ones now. Otherwise you would have to run the cleenup script yourself. The problem with mine was at the start of each new day after the first signup of that day the cleanup script or whatever its called is supoed to remove the expired users. This was not happening.

erotictrance · 02-03-2002, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BV

Yah I had the expired password problem as well. These were always the passwords being shared too! After several atempts at ccbill fixing my password script it finally expires the old ones now. Otherwise you would have to run the cleenup script yourself. The problem with mine was at the start of each new day after the first signup of that day the cleanup script or whatever its called is supoed to remove the expired users. This was not happening.

Yep. That's what I heard ... good to hear it's fixed now ... hopefully .... LOL

Matt · 02-03-2002, 10:39 PM

you guys just now found my forum? bet you cant find the other ones

erotictrance · 02-03-2002, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phil21

A couple of my customers refused the "protect your paysite from password traders" service for the whopping $10/mo we offer it at, so a posting usually lasts and hour or two before I notice a 20mbit/sec spike and go and kill the fucker.

-Phil

Hey Phil. I'm not trying to solicit spam or anything like that ... god forbid .... LOL

But how would one take a look at your password protection service?

Got a link? ... Just curious ...

Barry Porn · 02-04-2002, 02:12 AM

But it's so much fun to watch you cry like a little schoolgirl.

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
Hey FUCKNUT BARRY!!

You have no fucking right posting my personal information on a public forum you asshole!!!!

Barry Porn · 02-04-2002, 02:14 AM

Exactly.

Hey the site you run rocks!

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

hmm...

Sleepy · 02-04-2002, 07:45 AM

#1 ccbill cleanup script.
The problem with that script is due to a call it makes while half way through the cleanup. They can fix that and have indentified the problem.

#2. ccbill does offer a script which will stop members from choosing their own password - you have to ask for it. It selects upper and lower case letters with random numerals.

Trax · 02-04-2002, 08:12 AM

somebody give me his login and pass please....
im not going to pay to see if they stole shit from me
contact me pls on icq

$laCeEr · 02-04-2002, 12:21 PM

Lensman,

I read your post and find it interesting. I found this posted on another forum (netpond)

-------------------- (Start of Quote) -----------------------

So lensman whats this scam about?? (AMATEURPAGES.COM)

This lensman makes me sick. He will post on other forums about password sites and how they fuck with other peoples sites
etc BUT hes in the the password site guys.. I have emailed him many times about this and does nothing!

http://falcon:[email protected]/members/index.html

http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=freshmanclass.com&SearchType=do&STRIN G2.x=20&STRING2.y=16

Registrant:
Full Moon Internet
Moon Full
P.O. Box 990
St John's, Antigua W. Indies
AG
268-843-9282
[email protected]

Administrative Contact:
Full Moon Internet
Moon Full
P.O. Box 990
St John's, Antigua W. Indies
AG
268-843-9282
[email protected]

Technical Contact:
Full Moon Internet
Moon Full
P.O. Box 990
St John's, Antigua W. Indies
AG
268-843-9282
[email protected]

Billing Contact
Full Moon Internet
Moon Full
P.O. Box 990
St John's, Antigua W. Indies
AG
268-843-9282
[email protected]

Registrar..: gkg.net (http://register.gkg.net/)
Domain Name: FRESHMANCLASS.COM

http://www.banditspasswords.com/passwords.html

http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=banditspasswords.com&SearchType=do&ST RING2.x=20&STRING2.y=16

Registrant:
Full Moon Internet
Moon Full
P.O. Box 990
St John's, Antigua W. Indies
AG
268-843-9282
[email protected]

Administrative Contact:
Full Moon Internet
Moon Full
P.O. Box 990
St John's, Antigua W. Indies
AG
268-843-9282
[email protected]

Technical Contact:
Full Moon Internet
Moon Full
P.O. Box 990
St John's, Antigua W. Indies
AG
268-843-9282
[email protected]

Billing Contact
Full Moon Internet
Moon Full
P.O. Box 990
St John's, Antigua W. Indies
AG
268-843-9282
[email protected]

Registrar..: gkg.net (http://register.gkg.net/)
Domain Name: BANDITSPASSWORDS.COM

OK SAME owner but the guy cant post amateurpages on his password site so he makes a
scam site and then sends the traffic there...

-------------------- (End of Quote) -----------------------

Please could you reply about this. I am one of your advertiser and want to know WHY you are supporting the sites that DESTORY other sites. Does not seen right?

Chazzy1 · 02-04-2002, 12:26 PM

02-04-2002, 12:27 PM

Dude, it's pretty damn common that people create fake password sites which lead to fake paysites.

Go get a life and fuck yourself while you're at it.

$laCeEr · 02-04-2002, 12:35 PM

Equinox, True True!

But that was not what I was asking here.

http://falcon:[email protected]/index.html
http://www.banditspasswords.com/passwords.html

Both urls are ownered and operated by the same owner. Which then allows a password site owner to dodge the rules on password sites and then allows him to send traffic to a fake site and then to make signups.

redshift · 02-04-2002, 12:36 PM

shit man people's been doin this shit for years..

spacedog · 02-04-2002, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $laCeEr
Equinox, True True!

But that was not what I was asking here.

http://falcon:falcon@<a href="http:/...index.html</a>
http://www.banditspasswords.com/passwords.html

Both urls are ownered and operated by the same owner. Which then allows a password site owner to dodge the rules on password sites and then allows him to send traffic to a fake site and then to make signups.

Those are FAKE passwords to FAKE sites..
there are no real passwords..
fuck...those are fake urls too..lol

see, here's a password to get into my site;

http://dipshit:[email protected]

$laCeEr · 02-04-2002, 12:48 PM

Spacedog the only DIP shit here is you. and trust me no one likes you. I wonder why you got so personal about them sites? Yeah I wonder!

Here is another forum I found today.
http://www.xxxhq.com/vb/

$laCeEr · 02-04-2002, 12:55 PM

Have you taking a look at your sites? These are very amateurish sites. who is the designer? I would be sacking them right away!

Half of the stuff on your sites dont work, Broken images the lot. I would fell stupid showing other webmasters my sites if they looked like that.

Spacedog's Webmaster Resources (looks like shit)
Porn-O-Round
Celeb-Pussy (what a load of crap that is)
TGP Scripts Hosting

Before you start abusing people I WOULD not show people your sites, Maybe ill take my anger out on your sites? and totally make them go away for good?

Watch out.

spacedog · 02-04-2002, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $laCeEr
Spacedog the only DIP shit here is you. and trust me no one likes you. I wonder why you got so personal about them sites? Yeah I wonder!

Here is another forum I found today.
http://www.xxxhq.com/vb/

You don't read too well, do you?
I was stating the obvious.. You try to make lensman look bad, & there are no passwords on those sites..
All the sites listed at bandit passwords ARE FAKE PAYSITES,
& the passwords ARE FAKE using trick urls....

LOL...
http://[email protected]

I got personal because I respect Lensman & you try to make him look bad with some bullshit post..

spacedog · 02-04-2002, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $laCeEr
Have you taking a look at your sites? These are very amateurish sites. who is the designer? I would be sacking them right away!

Half of the stuff on your sites dont work, Broken images the lot. I would fell stupid showing other webmasters my sites if they looked like that.

Spacedog's Webmaster Resources (looks like shit)
Porn-O-Round
Celeb-Pussy (what a load of crap that is)
TGP Scripts Hosting

Before you start abusing people I WOULD not show people your sites, Maybe ill take my anger out on your sites? and totally make them go away for good?

Watch out.

Are you fuckinhg illiterate? Who did I fucking abuse you insolent prick? Did I fucking abuse you? No I did not..
I was explaining to you what was going on & showed you an example of how it was done..
Go Fuck Yourself..

Oh, and there are no broken images on my sites..that's your browser..lol

And don't fucking threaten me you punk!!

I work real hard & it's fucking malice from little mischeivous pricks like you that cause problems..

$laCeEr · 02-04-2002, 01:19 PM

I work real hard & it's fucking malice from little mischeivous pricks like you that cause problems..

-

Im killing myself laughin "I work real hard" Who are you kidding? You are a lowlife scum..

Barry Porn · 02-04-2002, 01:23 PM

spacedog · 02-04-2002, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $laCeEr
I work real hard & it's fucking malice from little mischeivous pricks like you that cause problems..

-

Im killing myself laughin "I work real hard" Who are you kidding? You are a lowlife scum..

NO, who are you kidding with your bullshit...
you havent even been a member here for an hour yet & you're already starting shit..

$laCeEr · 02-04-2002, 01:37 PM

Hmm.. Didnt i write that I copied it off another forum and was asking about it? Because of this you give me a abuse.

Ok whatever. Seems that you are either blind or just a twat with a keyboard. I would go for twat with a keyboard.

CUNTEYES · 02-04-2002, 01:48 PM

[email protected]

195.92.168.164

they admin at passwordforums name is phil.there is his email and ip.he is a real motherefucka so give him whats coming to him!!!

spacedog · 02-04-2002, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $laCeEr
Hmm.. Didnt i write that I copied it off another forum and was asking about it? Because of this you give me a abuse.

Ok whatever. Seems that you are either blind or just a twat with a keyboard. I would go for twat with a keyboard.

I understand that you copied it off another forum & I pointed it out to you that the passes were fake as well as the sites & I gave you an example of how the urls were made to look like password urls..
I didnt abuse you in anyway..
What did I say to you that was abusive???

Not a thing pal..

BradShaw · 02-04-2002, 02:28 PM

How about Lensman who has been paying Leo from ultrapsswords.com for over 2 years? Blatent link right there on the front page.

Lensman · 02-04-2002, 03:30 PM

The post above doesn't look deleted to me.

Moron.

BradShaw · 02-04-2002, 03:56 PM

Lens, I have witnesses;-)

No need to be so defensive, and nice how you change my posts and my thread topics.

BV · 02-04-2002, 04:03 PM

Leo's http://www.ultrapasswords.com/
is the one that nailed me a few times.

it's real for sure!

heres how it works
Leo post real hacked password to real paysites
surfers bookmark and come back again and again
Leo gets huge traffic
Leo sells links and makes bling bling
Webmasters buying links makes the bling bling
webmasters with no protection whos passwords were posted to build all the traffic get big bandwidth bill only.
end of story

Phil21 · 02-04-2002, 06:05 PM

Chazzy1,

yeah, I understand 99.9% of the password sites are simply "fronts" so to speak for getting traffic.

But, there are definitely more than a few that post real working passwords. These ARE hacked passwords, as I have the logs to prove it. The point is, I'd not "submit" stuff to people, I'd simply dangle a few carrots here and there and see what bites.

case in point:

I host a small paysite for a guy in the UK. Decent design, etc. just not much promotion and it's fairly nichy hardcore stuff, not exactly the "huge" paysite type.

for a longass time, he had under 30 total members in his password file. Did maybe 10-25GB/mo depending. Then he had a traded password. Yeah, he pulled 120GB that month, and then another 150GB the next month when another couple were leaked (and all ran for no more than 4 hours each, most like 1.5 hours).

So.. before he was listed he had around 30 paying members.

guess how many now?

Think 60? 100% gain in membership? Sounds good..

Naw, think higher. ;)

207 listed accounts, you can figure at least 200 of those are actual paying customers.

that's freaking insane.. for a cost of less than 250GB, he gained about 150 users. Without any work from him whatsoever, other than collecting the checks and cutting me a check for bandwidth.

I know that a hell of a lot of sites "promote" through password sites, but I never thought a *real* hacked password listing of about 4 or 5 times over 2 months would net more than a handful of new signups.

All I can say, is holy shit. ;)

-Phil

p.s. To the guy who asked about the password area protection we offer.. It's only to those that host with us, it essentially works like a pennywize or something, only we maintain everything and guarantee it's effectiveness.

spacedog · 02-05-2002, 08:11 AM

Looks like password forum's gonna be in some hot water real soon.....

Playboy , perfect10 , mac&bumble , suze randall , & jeff from Karups PC will all be speaking with cavecreek & ccbill this morning...

Thanks to yours truly...lol HHHAAHAHHAAAHHAA

Theo · 02-05-2002, 08:16 AM

i really doubt for the results

spacedog · 02-05-2002, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
i really doubt for the results

same here , but at least those sites will now install better protection , & maybe it'll make it harder for password sites to survive if sites better protect themselves..

Jakke PNG · 02-05-2002, 08:33 AM

I'm afraid.

spacedog · 02-05-2002, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
I'm afraid.

LOL..why?

$laCeEr · 02-05-2002, 09:07 AM

Hey SpaceDog...

I dont see what you will gain from this. The site will just move to a new hosting company and then it starts again and again.

Lets hope the webmaster didnt see you trying to stabtage his/her sites.

spacedog · 02-05-2002, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by $laCeEr
Hey SpaceDog...

I dont see what you will gain from this. The site will just move to a new hosting company and then it starts again and again.

Lets hope the webmaster didnt see you trying to stabtage his/her sites.

Me, I don't gain anything...
Just helping out a few sites that need better password protection..

Sleepy · 02-05-2002, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
Looks like password forum's gonna be in some hot water real soon.....

Playboy , perfect10 , mac&bumble , suze randall , & jeff from Karups PC will all be speaking with cavecreek & ccbill this morning...

Thanks to yours truly...lol HHHAAHAHHAAAHHAA

You may want to stop posting with your URLs in your tag.
That doesnt mean I agree or disagree - I just see grief in your future.

spacedog · 02-05-2002, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepy

You may want to stop posting with your URLs in your tag.
That doesnt mean I agree or disagree - I just see grief in your future.

Why you say that?

danevans · 02-05-2002, 10:11 AM

Hey, does passwordforum.com have an affiliate program?

@ 60% recurring it would be asskicking

Sleepy · 02-05-2002, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
Why you say that?

I had these guys trying to crack my server for a long time. The large companies that secretly pull the strings on these sites use them like attack dogs for fucking their competition. Sometimes they just use them for revenge...

NETbilling · 02-05-2002, 10:55 AM

Hi,

We changed our password requirements for our webmaster over a year ago to not allow usernames and passwords to be the same nor can the passwords be a dictionary word. We allow customers to chosse their own access information for ease of rememberance but the rules above apply.
This has decreased password hacking over 95%. I suggest everone does this.

Mitch

Rip · 02-05-2002, 01:00 PM

I found for me that the password monitoring software I am using works pretty good, and I have it set up in two stages

first stage works on a separate cgi which monitors the system as the users get into the first "splash" welcome to bal bla bla site members area

the second stage works on the main content area and checks the user again as they login to the content area

the other thing that you can do in this case is set the thresholds at different levels

so far so good

I have had some password traders, but the script is triggered at a pretty low threshold, and I usually keep the suspended users on file so even if they pay again ... their username is locked out

it's a bit of a headache for aol users with multiple ips but nothing too bad

There is a thing with ccbill not deleting old users sometimes, but this seems to be looked after with cleanup in most of the cases

Their tech support is pretty good as well, so I would suggest calling them, if you are getting expired users clinging on too much

another thing you can do is "ban" the password traders by emailing ccbill

or whatever ccprocessor you are using

I used to get tons of trial sign up password traders, they sign up for a trial and then post the username on their site... as if they hacked it

oh well lifes a bitch, back to the grind, have a nice day everyone ;)

Theo · 02-05-2002, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by danevans
Hey, does passwordforum.com have an affiliate program?
@ 60% recurring it would be asskicking

hehe,very true

MADD MaxXxiavelli · 02-14-2002, 08:05 AM

Am I the only one who sees any kind of discrepancy here? Let's examine the following 2 quotes, first of spacedog, & then of the required TOS agreement between the posters of this site, and this site itself...

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog :
Hey FUCKNUT BARRY!!

You have no fucking right posting my personal information on a public forum you asshole!!!!

and then...

Quote:

TOS Agreement of GFY.com :
By clicking the Agree button, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

If you will kindly excuse me for saying so, for someone that acts SO concerned with obeying rules & treating others fairly, spacedog has acted extremely childish in this thread, and also seems to be breaking his agreement with GFY.com, as I found his post to be totally obscene, extremely vulgar, & very hateful.

How many times per day, just on the average, mind you-

How many times a day does this person maintain his composure long enough to present a logical, mature, & intelligent argument to persuade others to his point of view? I am guessing ZERO times a DAY, at this point. He seems to prefer kicking, screaming, & throwing a hissy-fit like a little schoolgirl, just as Barry pointed out.

Apparently, when this spacedog was in school, he was taught that using flagrant vitriolic uncontrolled profanity was a sign of a well-developed mature adult.

I realize that Barry posted some of spacedog's personal information, but I disagree with spacedog on the opinion that Barry had no right to do so. All of spacedog's personal information was obviously gotten from easily-obtained public records, which by definition, are NOT "private" at all.

This is the year 2001. If you want complete & total "anonymity", I suggest that you find yourself a cave in the mountains, shun all human contact, & STAY OFF the internet for the rest of your life.

You CAN protect your privacy, with a little bit of cranial matter.

There are several free anonymous proxy surfing services available for anyone that has any intelligence whatsoever, which I have to assume leaves spacedog out in the cold.

Instead of using a search engine to find a free anonymity provider, as he should, & most intelligent adults would, he'll most likely curse me out, just like he did to Barry.

Here is a little free advice for you, spacedog...

Whenever you are having an intelligent debate with people that are trying to make a complete & utter fool out of you in public, try to not make it so ridiculously easy for them to do.

fullmoon · 04-10-2002, 09:18 PM

rotflmao

that is exactly what about half who have commented on this topic make me do.

I rarely waiste my time on the message boards. I spend my time creating sites and cashing checks.

I was getting message from people saying my site freshmanclass.com was all over some message board so I thought I would check it out.

Yeah... I own freshmanclass.com and I own banditspasswords.com . I think the only one close to the concept here is spacedog. Anyone else here taken the time to research all the other sites listed on banditspasswords ? Here, I'll save you a bunch of fucking time... I own 70% of them. the other 30% are normally friends sites who are in the same field as mine.

For the most part. there are no real passwords. I know I damn sure don't want any listed on my passwords sites. If I find a real password on my site, the first thing I do is ban it so it never gets listed again. Lets use our fucking brains here !!! Why the fuck would I want to send my surfer into a real paysite when I can send them into a fake site I made and own that will make money ?

It is all one great big scam..... My password sites have been for 2 years. Why....cause it fucking works.... I get 2-3K per day in search traffic per password site....why..... because surfers are attracted to the term free.... This year I have feed companies asking to get their feeds listed on my fake members sections casue they want the traffic and upsells. It is all a big scam, it has been for a long time.

Here is another similar scam that:
http://bow2:[email protected]/members

Hell, half the free hosts right now have in their header or footer:

FREE XXX PASSWORDS...

Why....because it works....because it gets more clicks than any other advertising they have tried.

Also...I want to say a quick thanks for all the publicity. I wondered about 2 days ago why suddenly I have tons of adult webmasters e-mailing me, asking me to advertise for them. Now I know why

Joe Blow · 04-10-2002, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Barry Porn
On their side?

You concern yourself with everyone's business, how does that site affect you?

There are thousands of them out there, you think your words will get across to anyone?

You are a nobody boy.

First get a life, and then get http://www.monster-submit.com/sentry/
and shut the fuck up already.

Barry, you are an absolute fuckwit. I doubt you're capable of a job at Burger King shit for brains.

Alky · 04-10-2002, 10:45 PM

actually password sites do make decent money. its just another entity in the adult biz. the government has never interfered in any way with a password site.. why? because they view it as a business to business problem. that was something along the lines of what i read in one of the first few issues if Klixxx.

MikeyBoy · 05-01-2002, 07:36 PM

I love this post

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02-05-2002, 08:33 AM	#85
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NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,574	Hi, We changed our password requirements for our webmaster over a year ago to not allow usernames and passwords to be the same nor can the passwords be a dictionary word. We allow customers to chosse their own access information for ease of rememberance but the rules above apply. This has decreased password hacking over 95%. I suggest everone does this. Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

02-05-2002, 01:00 PM	#94
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	I found for me that the password monitoring software I am using works pretty good, and I have it set up in two stages first stage works on a separate cgi which monitors the system as the users get into the first "splash" welcome to bal bla bla site members area the second stage works on the main content area and checks the user again as they login to the content area the other thing that you can do in this case is set the thresholds at different levels so far so good I have had some password traders, but the script is triggered at a pretty low threshold, and I usually keep the suspended users on file so even if they pay again ... their username is locked out it's a bit of a headache for aol users with multiple ips but nothing too bad There is a thing with ccbill not deleting old users sometimes, but this seems to be looked after with cleanup in most of the cases Their tech support is pretty good as well, so I would suggest calling them, if you are getting expired users clinging on too much another thing you can do is "ban" the password traders by emailing ccbill or whatever ccprocessor you are using I used to get tons of trial sign up password traders, they sign up for a trial and then post the username on their site... as if they hacked it oh well lifes a bitch, back to the grind, have a nice day everyone ;) __________________ ...

02-03-2002, 09:51 PM	#52
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	Actually, I think you have a point.. A couple of my customers refused the "protect your paysite from password traders" service for the whopping $10/mo we offer it at, so a posting usually lasts and hour or two before I notice a 20mbit/sec spike and go and kill the fucker. While it costs them like 50GB in bandwidth (for 2 hours usage. yeesh.), I've noticed in the proceeding week or so memberships for their sites jump considerably. Go figure. I think if I owned a paysite, I'd prolly "leak" a couple l/p's around and let them go a little while, and kill 'em. Also prolly make a "fake" membership area that requires a login, but only have it be a bunch of galleries. ;) (I'm sure people have done this shit, I know I'm going to.. fuck it.) -Phil

02-03-2002, 10:39 PM	#55
Matt Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 173	you guys just now found my forum? bet you cant find the other ones

02-04-2002, 07:45 AM	#59
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	#1 ccbill cleanup script. The problem with that script is due to a call it makes while half way through the cleanup. They can fix that and have indentified the problem. #2. ccbill does offer a script which will stop members from choosing their own password - you have to ask for it. It selects upper and lower case letters with random numerals.

02-04-2002, 08:12 AM	#60
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	somebody give me his login and pass please.... im not going to pay to see if they stole shit from me contact me pls on icq

02-04-2002, 12:21 PM	#61
$laCeEr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Aussie Posts: 23	Lensman, I read your post and find it interesting. I found this posted on another forum (netpond) -------------------- (Start of Quote) ----------------------- So lensman whats this scam about?? (AMATEURPAGES.COM) This lensman makes me sick. He will post on other forums about password sites and how they fuck with other peoples sites etc BUT hes in the the password site guys.. I have emailed him many times about this and does nothing! http://falcon:[email protected]/members/index.html http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=freshmanclass.com&SearchType=do&STRIN G2.x=20&STRING2.y=16 Registrant: Full Moon Internet Moon Full P.O. Box 990 St John's, Antigua W. Indies AG 268-843-9282 [email protected] Administrative Contact: Full Moon Internet Moon Full P.O. Box 990 St John's, Antigua W. Indies AG 268-843-9282 [email protected] Technical Contact: Full Moon Internet Moon Full P.O. Box 990 St John's, Antigua W. Indies AG 268-843-9282 [email protected] Billing Contact Full Moon Internet Moon Full P.O. Box 990 St John's, Antigua W. Indies AG 268-843-9282 [email protected] Registrar..: gkg.net (http://register.gkg.net/) Domain Name: FRESHMANCLASS.COM http://www.banditspasswords.com/passwords.html http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=banditspasswords.com&SearchType=do&ST RING2.x=20&STRING2.y=16 Registrant: Full Moon Internet Moon Full P.O. Box 990 St John's, Antigua W. Indies AG 268-843-9282 [email protected] Administrative Contact: Full Moon Internet Moon Full P.O. Box 990 St John's, Antigua W. Indies AG 268-843-9282 [email protected] Technical Contact: Full Moon Internet Moon Full P.O. Box 990 St John's, Antigua W. Indies AG 268-843-9282 [email protected] Billing Contact Full Moon Internet Moon Full P.O. Box 990 St John's, Antigua W. Indies AG 268-843-9282 [email protected] Registrar..: gkg.net (http://register.gkg.net/) Domain Name: BANDITSPASSWORDS.COM OK SAME owner but the guy cant post amateurpages on his password site so he makes a scam site and then sends the traffic there... -------------------- (End of Quote) ----------------------- Please could you reply about this. I am one of your advertiser and want to know WHY you are supporting the sites that DESTORY other sites. Does not seen right?

02-04-2002, 12:27 PM	#63
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Dude, it's pretty damn common that people create fake password sites which lead to fake paysites. Go get a life and fuck yourself while you're at it.

02-04-2002, 12:35 PM	#64
$laCeEr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Aussie Posts: 23	Equinox, True True! But that was not what I was asking here. http://falcon:[email protected]/index.html http://www.banditspasswords.com/passwords.html Both urls are ownered and operated by the same owner. Which then allows a password site owner to dodge the rules on password sites and then allows him to send traffic to a fake site and then to make signups.

02-04-2002, 12:36 PM	#65
redshift Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: anus fuckin' yo mama Posts: 1,044	shit man people's been doin this shit for years..

02-04-2002, 12:48 PM	#67
$laCeEr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Aussie Posts: 23	Spacedog the only DIP shit here is you. and trust me no one likes you. I wonder why you got so personal about them sites? Yeah I wonder! Here is another forum I found today. http://www.xxxhq.com/vb/

02-04-2002, 12:55 PM	#68
$laCeEr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Aussie Posts: 23	Have you taking a look at your sites? These are very amateurish sites. who is the designer? I would be sacking them right away! Half of the stuff on your sites dont work, Broken images the lot. I would fell stupid showing other webmasters my sites if they looked like that. Spacedog's Webmaster Resources (looks like shit) Porn-O-Round Celeb-Pussy (what a load of crap that is) TGP Scripts Hosting Before you start abusing people I WOULD not show people your sites, Maybe ill take my anger out on your sites? and totally make them go away for good? Watch out.

02-04-2002, 01:19 PM	#71
$laCeEr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Aussie Posts: 23	I work real hard & it's fucking malice from little mischeivous pricks like you that cause problems.. - Im killing myself laughin "I work real hard" Who are you kidding? You are a lowlife scum..

02-04-2002, 01:23 PM	#72
Barry Porn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 257	*

02-04-2002, 01:37 PM	#74
$laCeEr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Aussie Posts: 23	Hmm.. Didnt i write that I copied it off another forum and was asking about it? Because of this you give me a abuse. Ok whatever. Seems that you are either blind or just a twat with a keyboard. I would go for twat with a keyboard.

02-04-2002, 01:48 PM	#75
CUNTEYES Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2	[email protected] 195.92.168.164 they admin at passwordforums name is phil.there is his email and ip.he is a real motherefucka so give him whats coming to him!!!

02-04-2002, 02:28 PM	#77
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	How about Lensman who has been paying Leo from ultrapsswords.com for over 2 years? Blatent link right there on the front page.

02-04-2002, 03:30 PM	#78
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	The post above doesn't look deleted to me. Moron.

02-04-2002, 03:56 PM	#79
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Lens, I have witnesses;-) No need to be so defensive, and nice how you change my posts and my thread topics.

02-04-2002, 04:03 PM	#80
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Leo's http://www.ultrapasswords.com/ is the one that nailed me a few times. it's real for sure! heres how it works Leo post real hacked password to real paysites surfers bookmark and come back again and again Leo gets huge traffic Leo sells links and makes bling bling Webmasters buying links makes the bling bling webmasters with no protection whos passwords were posted to build all the traffic get big bandwidth bill only. end of story

02-04-2002, 06:05 PM	#81
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	Chazzy1, yeah, I understand 99.9% of the password sites are simply "fronts" so to speak for getting traffic. But, there are definitely more than a few that post real working passwords. These ARE hacked passwords, as I have the logs to prove it. The point is, I'd not "submit" stuff to people, I'd simply dangle a few carrots here and there and see what bites. case in point: I host a small paysite for a guy in the UK. Decent design, etc. just not much promotion and it's fairly nichy hardcore stuff, not exactly the "huge" paysite type. for a longass time, he had under 30 total members in his password file. Did maybe 10-25GB/mo depending. Then he had a traded password. Yeah, he pulled 120GB that month, and then another 150GB the next month when another couple were leaked (and all ran for no more than 4 hours each, most like 1.5 hours). So.. before he was listed he had around 30 paying members. guess how many now? Think 60? 100% gain in membership? Sounds good.. Naw, think higher. ;) 207 listed accounts, you can figure at least 200 of those are actual paying customers. that's freaking insane.. for a cost of less than 250GB, he gained about 150 users. Without any work from him whatsoever, other than collecting the checks and cutting me a check for bandwidth. I know that a hell of a lot of sites "promote" through password sites, but I never thought a real hacked password listing of about 4 or 5 times over 2 months would net more than a handful of new signups. All I can say, is holy shit. ;) -Phil p.s. To the guy who asked about the password area protection we offer.. It's only to those that host with us, it essentially works like a pennywize or something, only we maintain everything and guarantee it's effectiveness.

02-05-2002, 08:11 AM	#82
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Looks like password forum's gonna be in some hot water real soon..... Playboy , perfect10 , mac&bumble , suze randall , & jeff from Karups PC will all be speaking with cavecreek & ccbill this morning... Thanks to yours truly...lol HHHAAHAHHAAAHHAA

02-05-2002, 08:16 AM	#83
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i really doubt for the results

02-05-2002, 09:07 AM	#87
$laCeEr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Aussie Posts: 23	Hey SpaceDog... I dont see what you will gain from this. The site will just move to a new hosting company and then it starts again and again. Lets hope the webmaster didnt see you trying to stabtage his/her sites.

04-10-2002, 09:18 PM	#97
fullmoon Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5	rotflmao that is exactly what about half who have commented on this topic make me do. I rarely waiste my time on the message boards. I spend my time creating sites and cashing checks. I was getting message from people saying my site freshmanclass.com was all over some message board so I thought I would check it out. Yeah... I own freshmanclass.com and I own banditspasswords.com . I think the only one close to the concept here is spacedog. Anyone else here taken the time to research all the other sites listed on banditspasswords ? Here, I'll save you a bunch of fucking time... I own 70% of them. the other 30% are normally friends sites who are in the same field as mine. For the most part. there are no real passwords. I know I damn sure don't want any listed on my passwords sites. If I find a real password on my site, the first thing I do is ban it so it never gets listed again. Lets use our fucking brains here !!! Why the fuck would I want to send my surfer into a real paysite when I can send them into a fake site I made and own that will make money ? It is all one great big scam..... My password sites have been for 2 years. Why....cause it fucking works.... I get 2-3K per day in search traffic per password site....why..... because surfers are attracted to the term free.... This year I have feed companies asking to get their feeds listed on my fake members sections casue they want the traffic and upsells. It is all a big scam, it has been for a long time. Here is another similar scam that: http://bow2:[email protected]/members Hell, half the free hosts right now have in their header or footer: FREE XXX PASSWORDS... Why....because it works....because it gets more clicks than any other advertising they have tried. Also...I want to say a quick thanks for all the publicity. I wondered about 2 days ago why suddenly I have tons of adult webmasters e-mailing me, asking me to advertise for them. Now I know why

04-10-2002, 10:45 PM	#99
Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	actually password sites do make decent money. its just another entity in the adult biz. the government has never interfered in any way with a password site.. why? because they view it as a business to business problem. that was something along the lines of what i read in one of the first few issues if Klixxx.

05-01-2002, 07:36 PM	#100
MikeyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 537	I love this post