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Donny · 08-09-2005, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

I don't usually take Donny's side on anything but donny's right on this one.

Christ Fletch, you didn't even bother working with him on resolving this. The second things didn't go exactly how you wanted them to go you ran right to the board.

Thanks for the impartial view. God knows I need more of them tonight.

I wanted to pay him. I did. Just not $500 bucks, all things considered.

TDF · 08-09-2005, 12:10 AM

five ohhh

Donny · 08-09-2005, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TDF

five ohhh

maybe not...

dirtydesignz · 08-09-2005, 12:39 AM

Do you have this original contract that says exactly what the $500 was for and what you would be getting for the 50/50 partnership? If you don't then it's just your word versus his, and to be honest, it's not looking too good for you. And the fact that you are using his banners for your other projects and not sending to the original tour you both agreed upon, shows that you breeched the original contract, if indeed there is a contract.

Fletch does good work and while alot of people don't understand the design business, it takes alot of time and creative ability to keep coming up with something that is unique and fresh. When he originally designed the site for you, it was uniqe and fresh and converted. Don't downplay the fact that he is a good designer, after all, you are still using the banners he designed.

Donny · 08-09-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtydesignz

Do you have this original contract that says exactly what the $500 was for and what you would be getting for the 50/50 partnership? If you don't then it's just your word versus his, and to be honest, it's not looking too good for you. And the fact that you are using his banners for your other projects and not sending to the original tour you both agreed upon, shows that you breeched the original contract, if indeed there is a contract.

Fletch does good work and while alot of people don't understand the design business, it takes alot of time and creative ability to keep coming up with something that is unique and fresh. When he originally designed the site for you, it was uniqe and fresh and converted. Don't downplay the fact that he is a good designer, after all, you are still using the banners he designed.

I have our email conversations, ICQ conversations, and cancelled checks. Neither of us have written contracts one way or another.

His banners were selected by someone else, not me. I liked the banners. But then again, I liked the tour, too. It just didn't convert very well. Regardless, who knows if the banners would work or not... they hadn't been tested. Affiliates were not using banners, as they used hosted galleries.

The new blog tour is this: http://tour1.donnysgirls.com/

The free sites that used these banners were released last week (I think - right now I'm transferring some video to the computer and don't want to take to time look up the exact date - it could have been the week before).

Fletch should have settled this privately. Read the emails: I was open to paying him. I didn't immediately respond after he replied with the price he wanted. I didn't like it. I thought it was too high.

I counter offered. He got mad. Then came board drama.

Everything else is emotional. The facts are this should have been taken care of off the boards.

Clicky_Bucks · 08-09-2005, 12:54 AM

Why did you say it was 0:22k?

Make another thread, Donny. This one is turning out just like the last one.

Donny · 08-09-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Clicky_Bucks

Why did you say it was 0:22k?

Make another thread, Donny. This one is turning out just like the last one.

Nothing changes this:

Fletch should have settled this privately. Read the emails: I was open to paying him. I didn't immediately respond after he replied with the price he wanted. I didn't like it. I thought it was too high.

I counter offered. He got mad. Then came board drama.

Everything else is emotional. The facts are this should have been taken care of off the boards.

Clicky_Bucks · 08-09-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Fletch should have settled this privately. Read the emails: I was open to paying him. I didn't immediately respond after he replied with the price he wanted. I didn't like it. I thought it was too high.

I counter offered. He got mad. Then came board drama.

You were caught stealing them and using them without his permission on other sites!! Why is that so hard to understand?

If you catch me stealing your car and tell me to give you 10k or you are calling the cops, I have the ability to start bargaining at this point?!?!

You are a complete moron.

Clicky_Bucks · 08-09-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Nothing changes this:

Fletch should have settled this privately. Read the emails: I was open to paying him. I didn't immediately respond after he replied with the price he wanted. I didn't like it. I thought it was too high.

I counter offered. He got mad. Then came board drama.

Everything else is emotional. The facts are this should have been taken care of off the boards.

Yeah, if nothing changes it, why did you feel the need to lie to all of us?

Donny · 08-09-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Clicky_Bucks

Yeah, if nothing changes it, why did you feel the need to lie to all of us?

Can you point me to the lie you mention so I can respond, please. Give me a direct link to it please.

Clicky_Bucks · 08-09-2005, 01:02 AM

Donovan, is it true that your conversion rate is 0:22k for the month of August on work you can directly attribute to Fletch?

Donny · 08-09-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Clicky_Bucks

Donovan, is it true that your conversion rate is 0:22k for the month of August on work you can directly attribute to Fletch?

Now... the facts remain:

Fletch should have settled this privately. Read the emails: I was open to paying him. I didn't immediately respond after he replied with the price he wanted. I didn't like it. I thought it was too high.

I counter offered. He got mad. Then came board drama.

Everything else is emotional. The facts are this should have been taken care of off the boards.

Do you agree with that, or are ya bein' stubborn and hard headed?

Donny · 08-09-2005, 01:40 AM

Where'd Clicky go?

Clicky_Bucks · 08-09-2005, 01:41 AM

You know 0:22k is bullshit. The fact you even try to pass it off is laughable.

Donny · 08-09-2005, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Clicky_Bucks

You know 0:22k is bullshit. The fact you even try to pass it off is laughable.

I'd like you to quote where I lied. You said I lied earlier. I'd like you to point it out so I can respond.

And STILL the facts remain:

Fletch should have settled this privately. Read the emails: I was open to paying him. I didn't immediately respond after he replied with the price he wanted. I didn't like it. I thought it was too high.

I counter offered. He got mad. Then came board drama.

Everything else is emotional. The facts are this should have been taken care of off the boards.

Do you agree with that, or are ya bein' stubborn and hard headed?

Donny · 08-09-2005, 01:49 AM

Clicky???

Clicky_Bucks · 08-09-2005, 01:51 AM

Donovan, I've expressed clearly how you are fucking full of shit. I like how you come up with four concise statements which shows your take on the situation. It has been hashed out a 6 page thread how and why you fucked up. You made a horrible decision.

No, I don't agree with you. You are a thief and a liar.

Donny · 08-09-2005, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clicky_Bucks

Donovan, I've expressed clearly how you are fucking full of shit. I like how you come up with four concise statements which shows your take on the situation. It has been hashed out a 6 page thread how and why you fucked up. You made a horrible decision.

No, I don't agree with you. You are a thief and a liar.

I'm still waiting for that link to these lies you mention. What's the problem?

Read the emails
Read the emails
Read the emails
Read the emails
Read the emails

And STILL the facts remain:

Fletch should have settled this privately. Read the emails: I was open to paying him. I didn't immediately respond after he replied with the price he wanted. I didn't like it. I thought it was too high.

I counter offered. He got mad. Then came board drama.

Everything else is emotional. The facts are this should have been taken care of off the boards.

So you think Fletch should take it to the boards when his initial offer is rejected, eh?

You're a dumb ass. Who are you, anyway? Nobody at all.

Deej · 08-09-2005, 02:01 AM

fuck i took a nap....this shit still....

donny, will you be needing new banners?

i can make similar, yet not the same...

you removed the ones in "question" yes?

realistic prices, lemme know if your interested, shit ill even throw in a few free ones if i make a few that are single frame flashers.....or mass produced single frame shots of a girl.....

its a hobby i have...

Donny · 08-09-2005, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

fuck i took a nap....this shit still....

donny, will you be needing new banners?

i can make similar, yet not the same...

you removed the ones in "question" yes?

realistic prices, lemme know if your interested, shit ill even throw in a few free ones if i make a few that are single frame flashers.....or mass produced single frame shots of a girl.....

its a hobby i have...

Thanks. I'll take you up on that offer so Boogie doesn't have to do it!

I gotta go to bed soon. Just preparing some stuff to take to Sac with me tomorrow and then me and the little lady are hittin' the sack and won't be back in our office until evening (with the exception of a few minutes to do some updates in 6 or 7 hours from now).

facialfreak · 08-09-2005, 02:27 AM

I fucking LOVE this place!!!!

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dirtydesignz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Playa de los Playas :) Posts: 1,815	Do you have this original contract that says exactly what the $500 was for and what you would be getting for the 50/50 partnership? If you don't then it's just your word versus his, and to be honest, it's not looking too good for you. And the fact that you are using his banners for your other projects and not sending to the original tour you both agreed upon, shows that you breeched the original contract, if indeed there is a contract. Fletch does good work and while alot of people don't understand the design business, it takes alot of time and creative ability to keep coming up with something that is unique and fresh. When he originally designed the site for you, it was uniqe and fresh and converted. Don't downplay the fact that he is a good designer, after all, you are still using the banners he designed. __________________ LIZZIE

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Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	Clicky???

08-09-2005, 01:51 AM	#67
Clicky_Bucks Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hawaii Posts: 746	Donovan, I've expressed clearly how you are fucking full of shit. I like how you come up with four concise statements which shows your take on the situation. It has been hashed out a 6 page thread how and why you fucked up. You made a horrible decision. No, I don't agree with you. You are a thief and a liar. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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