Porn Tube sites have killed porn

[DVTimes]

Would you get into porn now?

I do not think I would.

Tube Porn sites have killed porn.

[Supz]

why dont you just make a tube site.

[Fat Panda]

gay gay gay

[xmas13]

Start a (real) business.

[Eriic]

Start a documentary about how the economy + tubsites have killed porn and webmasters have to turn to minimum wage jobs cause they don't have viable skills in real life and how many will end up on welfare and still be employed at Walmart......

[SomeCreep]

Tube sites haven't killed porn, but they've definitely helped to worsen conversion ratios.

[EXPORT]

not only...but also xxxjay killed porn

[brassmonkey]

people want it fast and tube sites have the videos right there some have full videos

[Intervader]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Tube sites haven't killed porn, but they've definitely helped to worsen conversion ratios.

That depends on what your promoting. By selling unique products, tube sites will not effect your revenue as much. Examples of this are cam sites, dating and our 3D Sex World

[CherryV]

If tube sites killed porn they would soon have no content to update with.

[camgirlshide]

I still don't understand why the following policies are not in effect:

1. If you see a tube site sign up for your program and start sending you traffic - immediately drop them for a TOS violation and do not send them any money.
2. If you see a sponsor you promote not follow #1, immediate drop them and stop sending them any traffic.

[camgirlshide]

To go along with my previous message - I noticed one affiliate program which has several sites listed on my sites has a 36 5 minute movies posted on tube#. Now, we all know that since every other video on tube# is 15 to 30 min long they certainly don't own this content. Why this particular program believes they can make money by interleaving their 5 min preview videos in the middle of all this stolen content is beyond me. I am now removing all of their links from my sites.

Hopefully this particular program will re-evaluate their priorities and we can work together in the future.

p.s. -
I say tube# and don't name the affiliate program because I don't believe either deserves the advertising that comes with a mention by name

[farkedup]

poor baby, now just go start a tube of your own and QUIT WHINING! evolve or get a real job!

This is just like TGP's back in the day, some will survive but lots won't...

[camgirlshide]

Originally Posted by farkedup

poor baby, now just go start a tube of your own and QUIT WHINING! evolve or get a real job!

This is just like TGP's back in the day, some will survive but lots won't...

Nothing wrong with starting a tube site
I wouldn't be advocating starting one that steals content though

[papill0n]

thanks for letting us know

[Fap]

..or they opened up a new door. theyre the next gen tgp

[abyss_al]

prechecks kill porn not tubes

[webdeke]

Originally Posted by abyss_al

prechecks kill porn not tubes

ridiculous pricing spawned the tube phenomenon --

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by webdeke

ridiculous pricing spawned the tube phenomenon --

Hahaha ..... yea the thieving pricks that own most big tubesites steal their content that's what keeps prices down.

[abyss_al]

Originally Posted by webdeke

ridiculous pricing spawned the tube phenomenon --

no, webmasters demanding higher payouts did

[WarChild]

I convert tube traffic at a much better ratio than I do TGP traffic. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

[freshxxxmovie]

50% agree!

[Brad Mitchell]

I spent 2 hours the other night surfing one of my client's tube sites. I have to be honest, there's no question why they are killing sales and getting all the traffic. To call them sticky would be the understatement of the year!

Brad

[XXXMovie4M]

just give tubes sites enough time and they will be out of business. tube sites attract cheap people so any upsales they have will be useless. it's like trying to sell tenderloin steaks at the soup kitchen.

they'll eventually lose their asses on bandwidth charges and poor upsales.

[SKULL]

surfers love tube sites.... a lot of us hate them ... they do hurt conversions

[XXXMovie4M]

so if the conversions are bad with paysites, how bad do you think they are with tube site upsales?

it's just a matter of time before they fail.

[Jens Van Assterdam]

Bullshit.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M

so if the conversions are bad with paysites, how bad do you think they are with tube site upsales?

it's just a matter of time before they fail.

You are very wrong. The small sponsor tube sites with short clips will disapear unless they are niche tube sites, The big tubes will continue and make even more money. Why do you think they upsell cams, dating, poker, pills ect because you cant get these for free, so people pay to join these types of sites plus ontop of that they make money from advertising. If you put ads in your movies they generate a lot of revenue too. The big tubes most prob make a lot more money than the average paysite and they aint gonna go any where anytime soon as I see it.

[BVF]

Originally Posted by allanuk

Would you get into porn now?

I do not think I would.

Tube Porn sites have killed porn.

You are like SO fucking profound!!!

[cognitos]

Rewind a few years, and the manufacturers of everything steam powered were saying how the diesel engine had destroyed the locomotive industry. Diesel engines were powered by oil stolen by colonial powers from remote locations such as Iran and Iraq.

[ADL Colin]

say whaaaaaaat! Porn tubes = $$$$.

[Mr. Porn]

me not agree...


me see long term effect...



me feel tube site owners makin $$$$$$$$$$$ 2 years from now...



errrr legitimate tubesites...

[_andy_]

The fact that hardcore porn is readily available to minors via tube sites is pretty unbelievable. I would think that eventually there would be a law passed against them.

[vidvicious]

Shady business practices killed the adult market .. Tubes are just a new part of that.

[Mr. Porn]

Originally Posted by _andy_

The fact that hardcore porn is readily available to minors via tube sites is pretty unbelievable. I would think that eventually there would be a law passed against them.

yes... 100 fuckin percent!!!


errrr....

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M

just give tubes sites enough time and they will be out of business. tube sites attract cheap people so any upsales they have will be useless. it's like trying to sell tenderloin steaks at the soup kitchen.

they'll eventually lose their asses on bandwidth charges and poor upsales.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. You're just saying things and hoping it's true.

[nardegas]

All paysites should put 1 dollars per month!!

untill the tube sites quit!

[Jens Van Assterdam]

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M

just give tubes sites enough time and they will be out of business. tube sites attract cheap people so any upsales they have will be useless. it's like trying to sell tenderloin steaks at the soup kitchen.

they'll eventually lose their asses on bandwidth charges and poor upsales.

Dream on surfer!

[count of monte cristo]

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I spent 2 hours the other night surfing one of my client's tube sites. I have to be honest, there's no question why they are killing sales and getting all the traffic. To call them sticky would be the understatement of the year!

Brad

i did the same thing. the trend seems similar to what napster was for free music. unsettling.

[ADL Colin]

This thread is making me hungry

[fujiko]

the only people supportin tubes, are these idiots that are trying to sell their stink ass scripts.

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Eriic

Start a documentary about how the economy + tubsites have killed porn and webmasters have to turn to minimum wage jobs cause they don't have viable skills in real life and how many will end up on welfare and still be employed at Walmart......

who are you kidding? most people in this industry are way underqualified to work at Walmart...they'd be more apt to become one of those sign twirler guys who stand on street corners twirling big oversized signs for real estate companies and shitty pizza places...

[tranza]

Are you going to leave porn because of it?

[ADL Colin]

Sure, just like Wal Mart killed Circuit City and hundreds of other businesses. And the whole thing was well-documented all the way from the start. And what was Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart was THE low-cost provider.

What is the #1 thing you should have done in 1985 armed with that knowledge? I'd go with BUY WAL MART stock.

[RTP]

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

[CHMOD]

Originally Posted by WarChild

I convert tube traffic at a much better ratio than I do TGP traffic. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

GFY is well known for having a lot of brainless idiots posting.

I have been reading many posts from you and I have to say :
Upon all of these idiots, you really win the grand prize.

You are so fucking stupid it is not even funny. I even sometimes feel sorry fo you.
The good thing is that you don't know it. It seems like you even think you are brilliant.


You NEVER EVER have anything interresting to say, you always critizise everyone,
trying to (cause you never really succeeded, I mean..no one finds you funny but your own self) to make fun of people.

Man are you annoying. And useless. You are a piece of garbage. It is the last thing I will ever write to you and I won't even come back to read your stupid reply.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by CHMOD

GFY is well known for having a lot of brainless idiots posting.

I have been reading many posts from you and I have to say :
Upon all of these idiots, you really win the grand prize.

You are so fucking stupid it is not even funny. I even sometimes feel sorry fo you.
The good thing is that you don't know it. It seems like you even think you are brilliant.


You NEVER EVER have anything interresting to say, you always critizise everyone,
trying to (cause you never really succeeded, I mean..no one finds you funny but your own self) to make fun of people.

Man are you annoying. And useless. You are a piece of garbage. It is the last thing I will ever write to you and I won't even come back to read your stupid reply.

You think Quebec is a country. Enough said on who's the bright one here.

[mynameisjim]

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Sure, just like Wal Mart killed Circuit City and hundreds of other businesses. And the whole thing was well-documented all the way from the start. And what was Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart was THE low-cost provider.

What is the #1 thing you should have done in 1985 armed with that knowledge? I'd go with BUY WAL MART stock.

Not sure I follow you here. Wal Mart is a legal business. I think the problem people have with tube sites is they are all illegal.

If Wal Mart employees broke into other stores at night, stole their inventory, then sold it via Wal Mart stores it would be an appropriate analogy.

[Twistys Tim]

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Not sure I follow you here. Wal Mart is a legal business. I think the problem people have with tube sites is they are all illegal.

If Wal Mart employees broke into other stores at night, stole their inventory, then sold it via Wal Mart stores it would be an appropriate analogy.

Wal-Mart have got very rich by purchasing the merchandise they sell from markets where there are very loose or non-existent labor laws. One of the bonuses for Wal-Mart was that they could employ children in these markets, and pay them a pittance. It is only when Wal-Mart get caught, and shamed, that they stop using child labor. If nobody cared about kids making stuff for Wal-Mart to sell, then Wal-Mart would have continued and expanded the use of child labor. They got caught, they said sorry, and promised to not get caught again. Many large companies use a model where the profits are measured against a possible average fine, and if they can break the law for 10-years and make off like bandits before getting caught and fined, then they will make off like bandits.

[mynameisjim]

Originally Posted by Twistys Tim

Wal-Mart have got very rich by purchasing the merchandise they sell from markets where there are very loose or non-existent labor laws. One of the bonuses for Wal-Mart was that they could employ children in these markets, and pay them a pittance. It is only when Wal-Mart get caught, and shamed, that they stop using child labor. If nobody cared about kids making stuff for Wal-Mart to sell, then Wal-Mart would have continued and expanded the use of child labor. They got caught, they said sorry, and promised to not get caught again. Many large companies use a model where the profits are measured against a possible average fine, and if they can break the law for 10-years and make off like bandits before getting caught and fined, then they will make off like bandits.

Somewhat true. But you are bringing up a totally separate topic. Not to mention, the smaller stores Wal Mart "put out of business" were all selling the same products made in third world countries with loose labor laws. Wal Mart was just able to buy more of it at a lower cost.

But still, are you suggesting because Wal Mart at one time used child labor that tube sites should be able to steal content as a legitimate business model. I fail to see the connection.