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Old 11-07-2009, 03:18 PM   #1
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Native English speakers... I have a question, please help!

why is the animal called "pig", you eat "pork" and get the "swine" flu??

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Old 11-07-2009, 03:20 PM   #2
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This all sounds like spam!
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:22 PM   #3
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This isn't an English question, this is a "why do we call something something" question.

For the sake of convenience, is the answer.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:28 PM   #4
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Door, port, portal, entryway.

Cow, beef.

Deer, venison.

Hog, wild hog, boar.
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Old 11-07-2009, 05:02 PM   #5
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A cow gives you beef and a farmer keeps several head of cattle as livestock. Kinda like that.
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Old 11-07-2009, 05:13 PM   #6
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why is the animal called "pig", you eat "pork" and get the "swine" flu??

it's like that in many languages

why is it called "puerco", "porcina", "cochino" in Spanish?
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Old 11-07-2009, 05:21 PM   #7
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interesting, in german it's all the same word
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:24 PM   #8
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interesting, in german it's all the same word
So you order minced pig (or ground pig) at your butcher?
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:24 PM   #9
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I'd like a large special fried rice, and a serve of sweet and sour pig! :D
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So you order minced pig (or ground pig) at your butcher?
stop being such a pig dog
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Swine is the collective of pig much like Equine is the collective for horse. It's a family.. Much like how mouse, rat and hamster are all rodent, then boar and pig are all swine.

As for pork, although pig and boar are all swine, only the pig is referred to as pork. It's called pork because the latin word for pig is porcus which was shortened to porc by the french.
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why is the animal called "pig", you eat "pork" and get the "swine" flu??

Each of these words have different origins, from different languages. English is a merger of these.
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Why can't German's settle on one kind of meat for schnitzel?
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:11 PM   #15
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English is made up of several languages starting with a Germanic core, with additional vocabulary, syntax and vowel sounds added to it in layers over history from Latin, French, Greek and later many others.
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Why can't German's settle on one kind of meat for schnitzel?
Do you only eat cow sausages?
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Why can't German's settle on one kind of meat for schnitzel?
because "Schnitzel" is a specific kind of preparation (or form/size - can't explain better, i ain't no butcher) and can be from pork, calf, chicken or turkey

only if you read "Wiener Schnitzel" it's supposed to be calf meat - any other meat in this case would be false advertising
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because "Schnitzel" is a specific kind of preparation (or form/size - can't explain better, i ain't no butcher) and can be from pork, calf, chicken or turkey

only if you read "Wiener Schnitzel" it's supposed to be calf meat - any other meat in this case would be false advertising
From my understanding Austria is the only place where it must be veal. In Germany it very well may be pork.
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From my understanding Austria is the only place where it must be veal. In Germany it very well may be pork.
sorry, veal, here we go again - lol

i have been in Vienna last week and in the "Schnitzel" restaurant where we went you could order veal or pork. and the waitress told us that less and less places actually offer the original Wiener Schnitzel made from veal. but if you want to be 100% correct one is "Wiener Schnitzel" and from pork it would be "Schnitzel nach Wiener Art"
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sorry, veal, here we go again - lol

i have been in Vienna last week and in the "Schnitzel" restaurant where we went you could order veal or pork. and the waitress told us that less and less places actually offer the original Wiener Schnitzel made from veal. but if you want to be 100% correct one is "Wiener Schnitzel" and from pork it would be "Schnitzel nach Wiener Art"
Native German speakers... I have a question, please help!
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I'm not a Native English speaker, but I took English classes in College. So I think I can try to explain.

They are kind of like synonyms.

Pig is just pig, for animal pig.

Pork is the edible version of pig. So for any big you wanna eat, you can call it pork.

Swine is the insulting name for pig. Like when Hitler yelled, "The Russians are swine!!! We have to exterminate them all!!!" Anyway, I'm Russian myself and that's the reason I don't like Hitler.
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Swine is the insulting name for pig. Like when Hitler yelled, "The Russians are swine!!! We have to exterminate them all!!!" Anyway, I'm Russian myself and that's the reason I don't like Hitler.
i would bet Hitler never said that with these words
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You need to consult the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) and there you will find a treasure trove in the origin of words....their history, when they were first used, and how they came to be.
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Missed you in Vienna this week Stefan.
Were you not there or did we not run into eachother?
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He was there ;-) Seems as you missed him We saw each other at the networking event
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Missed you in Vienna this week Stefan.
Were you not there or did we not run into eachother?
of course i was there, saw you at least at the first evening
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It is because the English language is made up from mainly German (from the saxon invaders) and from French (From the Norman invaders) The normans were the ruling class over the saxons, who were not farmers and ate the food and gave the words for food etc in french. The peasants who worked the farms were saxons and gave the un eaten animals German words

Over the years the French and german languages combined to give us the modern English language, what we know as English. Which is actually German and French.

Verbs are normally German words and nouns are normally French, with of course a whole host of other languages in the mix. Which comes from having huge amounts of immigrants for the last 2 thousand years.
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Pig was originally "young pig" and the adult was known as swine.

Pork is the flesh of a pig that is used as food and comes from the old Latin word Porcus

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