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Bryan G · 12-05-2011, 04:39 PM

Yup all folks that go on walfare are cheating the system. The amount of bullshit you sprew daily is unreal. Just like your threads about your mexican neighbours. You should post more about your awesome mustang.

Rochard · 12-05-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G

Yup all folks that go on walfare are cheating the system. The amount of bullshit you sprew daily is unreal. Just like your threads about your mexican neighbours. You should post more about your awesome mustang.

Pay attention. The Mexican family moved out. I sold all of my Mustangs.

What bullshit do you speak of? I found a news article about how someone on welfare lives in a million dollar house and talked about an old friend who is raping the system. It seems I know more people abusing the system than legitimately benefiting from it.

jimmy-3-way · 12-05-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I have a friend of mine who has two teen boys, and it's more profitable for him not to work. He gets to live in Section Eight housing - which he claims isn't bad in his area - and gets money and food. Any money he makes on the side is just extra spending money.

Yeah I know this guy too. What a bastard. An Ol' Dirty Bastard.

I remember one time he was all bragging to us cos he picked up his welfare check in a LIMO!

Bryan G · 12-05-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Your on crack.

I have a friend who is disabled. He has Hydrocephalus, more commonly known as "water on the brain". He's full retired from the US Army after two years, and fully retired from the US Post Office after working there for two years. He also gets state disability, and social security. He lives in a nice, brand new house, and drives around in a brand new huge truck. He worked four years of his life, two in the military and two at the post office as a fucking janitor, hasn't worked for twenty years, and pulls in over $100k a year - all because he "might get headaches".

For every one person who needs to be on welfare, there's a dozen people abusing it.

Nuff said. Just curious where you are pulling your stats from?? Or talking out your ass as usual??? So for everyone one person that needs it 12 are are abusing it?? Stats or shut the fuck up. Have you not been chased from most boards because of the retarded shit you post??

uno · 12-05-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Yeah I know this guy too. What a bastard. An Ol' Dirty Bastard.

I remember one time he was all bragging to us cos he picked up his welfare check in a LIMO!

RIP ODB(SBJ).

Also RIP my ferret Molly that we had to euthanize on Saturday Night(2005-2011).

shade001 · 12-05-2011, 05:10 PM

All you fucking communists should move to Russia, China, North Korea and report back in a few years on what a glorious paradise it is.

This isn't your little pond to piss in.

Dead · 12-05-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

RIP ODB(SBJ).

Also RIP my ferret Molly that we had to euthanize on Saturday Night(2005-2011).

Sorry to hear this about Molly, never met the ferret but have enjoyed her name for years! Rip I am sure she had many a good night, sucks to lose any friend, for me the furry ones hurt the worst.

Oh, and the whole sucking from the governments tit, bunch of babies that need to learn to feed themselves

Rochard · 12-05-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G

Nuff said. Just curious where you are pulling your stats from?? Or talking out your ass as usual??? So for everyone one person that needs it 12 are are abusing it?? Stats or shut the fuck up. Have you not been chased from most boards because of the retarded shit you post??

So your okay with someone collecting welfare from the government while living in a million dollar house?

This is the best part:

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As if the million dollar home weren't enough, the supposedly low-income couple also gave money to various charities and traveled around the world to locales in Turkey, Tel Aviv and resort towns in Mexico, according to court records.

So they suck in money from the government, gave money to charities, and then traveled around the world? Can you not see what's wrong with this?

Dead · 12-05-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

So they suck in money from the government, gave money to charities, and then traveled around the world? Can you not see what's wrong with this?

That shit is criminal, and whats more, when those fucks may actually need govern,ent hand out, I hope they at least remember what they have done. Small circles in this world...

Bryan G · 12-05-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

So your okay with someone collecting welfare from the government while living in a million dollar house?

This is the best part:

So they suck in money from the government, gave money to charities, and then traveled around the world? Can you not see what's wrong with this?

Nope I'm not. I asked you where you pulled your stats from. You said for every 1 person that needs welfare there are 12 abusing it. So again where are you getting your numbers??

Caligari · 12-05-2011, 06:24 PM

There are quite a few people on welfare living in million dollar houses.

As a matter of fact they recieved some huge welfare checks around 2008 -2009.

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uno · 12-05-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead

Sorry to hear this about Molly, never met the ferret but have enjoyed her name for years! Rip I am sure she had many a good night, sucks to lose any friend, for me the furry ones hurt the worst.

Oh, and the whole sucking from the governments tit, bunch of babies that need to learn to feed themselves

She had degenerative bone cancer and lost the use of her lower back/back legs saturday night. We said if she ever got to where her quality of life diminished, we'd do the right thing and that was pretty much it. Since she's been going downhill the past 4 months we've taken her out for ice cream during that time. Poor thing was probably expecting a treat after the car ride rather than what she got.

*Edit: fuck it i'm starting a new thread. this shit has me depressed.

beemk · 12-05-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G

Or talking out your ass as usual???

And the rhetorical question of the day award goes to...

DaddyHalbucks · 12-06-2011, 12:55 AM

Just the tip of the iceberg.

DaddyHalbucks · 12-06-2011, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G

Yup all folks that go on walfare are cheating the system. The amount of bullshit you sprew daily is unreal. Just like your threads about your mexican neighbours. You should post more about your awesome mustang.

Not all folks.. maybe 40% are fraudsters. Nobody really knows, because the government doesn't care about rooting out the ginormous amount of fraud. These government welfare hacks thrive on ignorance. It's all fun money to them, a jobs program and a way to buy votes. There is a whole social work industry based on it, the "poverty pimps."

DWB · 12-06-2011, 01:43 AM

Good for them. They learned how to beat a system that was set up to beat them.

I hope they are able to get away with it AND continue to get paid.

the Shemp · 12-06-2011, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari

There are quite a few people on welfare living in million dollar houses.

As a matter of fact they recieved some huge welfare checks around 2008 -2009.

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corporate welfare bums ...

Just Alex · 12-06-2011, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I looked at the meter and yeah, it's broken, but the bill has been close to the same it has always been , they have their head up their collective asses!

Obamacare. Blame it on Obama.

Caligari · 12-06-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

corporate welfare bums ...

Aye that they be, racking up far more welfare $$$ than the normal citizens on welfare could ever collectively get close to.

Not to say that typical welfare fraud isn't bad, but trotting out the "hey look at this welfare scammer living in a mansion" story to somehow make it seem like this is the real problem is a complete joke.

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Vendzilla · 12-06-2011, 08:26 AM

there are always going to be scammers of every system the government puts out there, in California it's real bad. when illegal aliens can collect it, with the other cost from city and county services costing LA county about a billion a year. All because LA is a sancutary city and California pays more for welfare than any other state I believe. I know we'll never get the problem taken care of because now LA county is over 50% latino.

But we'll just keep moving on spending the money for that instead of properly funding our schools, the schools here suck compared to other parts of the US

Cherry7 · 12-06-2011, 08:43 AM

We have the same problem in the UK. One family lives in this house paid by the taxpayer.

Vendzilla · 12-06-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

We have the same problem in the UK. One family lives in this house paid by the taxpayer.

Didn't I see something in the news that the royal family is going to start paying taxes?

_Richard_ · 12-06-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shade001

All you fucking communists should move to Russia, China, North Korea and report back in a few years on what a glorious paradise it is.

This isn't your little pond to piss in.

will north america be embracing the slave trade again? or simply revert to child labour etc

porno jew · 12-06-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Didn't I see something in the news that the royal family is going to start paying taxes?

over your head dum dum.

O MARINA · 12-06-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shade001

All you fucking communists should move to Russia, China, North Korea and report back in a few years on what a glorious paradise it is.

Best reply so far

directfiesta · 12-06-2011, 10:16 PM

SEATTLE -- A Seattle chiropractor and his wife live in a $1.2 million waterfront home and have spent the past eight years flying to Moscow, Paris, Israel, Turkey, Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

All the while, federal authorities say, the couple was collecting more than $100,000 in welfare.

Now, the U.S. attorney's office is suing David Silverstein and Lyudmila Shimonova, accusing them of filing false claims and demanding that the couple pay back more than $135,000 in federal housing assistance since 2003. Prosecutors are also seeking tens of thousands of dollars in fines.

In gaining Section 8 housing assistance, Shimonova represented that she lived alone with her two children and that her household assets were less than $5,000. Silverstein received the monthly benefits of $1,272 as Shimonova's purported landlord, the government said.

Shimonova also received benefits under the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, as well as Social Security cash reserved for people who can't work due to age or disability and whose assets fall below a certain threshold ? $3,000 for a married couple or $2,000 for a single person, the complaint said.

"Defendants have separately and, it appears, in conjunction with one another made false representations to various state and federal agencies in order to obtain federally funded benefits," assistant U.S. attorneys Harold Malkin and Kayla Stahman wrote.

Meanwhile, they were traveling the world, according to Department of Homeland Security records.

Michael Radyshewsky, a federal welfare fraud investigator, wrote in an application to search the couple's home that they took weeklong trips to Moscow in 2003, Dominican Republic in 2005, and Mexico and France in 2009. In 2007, they went for 12 days to Israel, and this past June they took a two-week trip to Turkey.

Silverstein said Tuesday his lawyer asked him not to comment, and his lawyer, David Allen, did not immediately return a message. The home did not appear to have a listed phone number, and Shimonova's lawyer, Michele Shaw, did not return an email seeking comment.

The investigation included surveillance of the three-bedroom, 2,300-square-foot home on Lake Washington, during which agents observed his black Jaguar parked there frequently.

Though Shimonova had claimed she was single and lived there alone, Silverstein listed it as his residence on his driver's license and passport application, the prosecutors said.

But in documents filed so that he could receive the housing assistance, he listed his office as his residence to conceal that he was living with Shimonova ? not her landlord, they said.

Furthermore, it appeared clear that the pair was actually married. Silverstein wrote on the website of his chiropractic business: "On a personal note, I am happily married with two children, whose careers are in medicine and Middle Eastern studies. As a family, we all enjoy snow-shoeing, mountain climbing and ocean sports."

A report of the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle for the 2010 fiscal year listed "Mila and Dr. David Silverstein" as donors.

In addition to failing to disclose the marriage or living situation, Shimonova also failed to disclose bank accounts in her name containing tens of thousands of dollars, prosecutors said.

The lawsuit seeks to have the couple pay $11,000 in fines for each false claim the couple made. The U.S. attorney's office declined to comment on whether criminal charges are forthcoming.

Just Alex · 12-06-2011, 10:55 PM

Conspiracy against Jews again. Racist bastards!

uno · 12-06-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

will north america be embracing the slave trade again? or simply revert to child labour etc

Ask and ye' shall receive.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dona...w=1320&bih=670

That was like some The Secret shit right there.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-06-2011, 11:41 PM

Talk about cherry picking ...

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ottopottomouse · 12-07-2011, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Didn't I see something in the news that the royal family is going to start paying taxes?

They already do.

Cherry7 · 12-07-2011, 05:20 AM

The Royal Family costs the tax payer more than 200 million pounds.

They are one of the richest families in the country owning vasts tracts of lands...

This family is the centerer of a "Culture of Entitlement" where a whole group of people, the richest 5%, feel they have the right to

The best eduction in private school

The best universities Oxford and Cambridge which then give them the best jobs

The best private health care

the best housing

etc...

raymor · 12-07-2011, 08:01 AM

How is this for a step in thee right direction that maybe everyone can agree on - how about saying the tax payers aren't going to send you a check while you're a fugitive? When I was bounty hunting a good way to find a fugitive was to show up when they came in for public assistance.

Failed · 12-07-2011, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor

How is this for a step in thee right direction that maybe everyone can agree on - how about saying the tax payers aren't going to send you a check while you're a fugitive? When I was bounty hunting a good way to find a fugitive was to show up when they came in for public assistance.

That seems like it should be a no brainer and implemented already. Yes, if you are on the run for being convicted in a court of law for a crime(s), you should not be able to receive any social services. This comes from a guy who wants to see everyone have a free education, medical care, and the means to live if unemployed or disabled. I can't believe that's even allowed to happen!

Failed · 12-07-2011, 12:58 PM

And here is the other end of the extreme that was made in the original post:

http://news.yahoo.com/state-mom-shot...204249288.html

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SAN ANTONIO (AP) ? A Texas woman who for months was unable to qualify for food stamps pulled a gun in a state welfare office and staged a seven-hour standoff with police that ended with her shooting her two children before killing herself, officials said Tuesday.

TheLegacy · 12-07-2011, 02:05 PM

Not knowing much about the American system - Canada has an extremely tight welfare system and each year seem to be adding more security standards to avoid this. Is it perfect? No - but they are catching more fraud and bogus accounts. All government systems are being tied together so welfare can verify accurate information such as housing - cars - medical - income with one click authorized verification system.

The system is needed for those that in extreme circumstances that have no other choices - but partial blame needs to be given to the government for not checking the honesty of their citizens since the government is being held accountable for the monies given to them by taxpayers.

Rochard · 12-07-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed

And here is the other end of the extreme that was made in the original post:

http://news.yahoo.com/state-mom-shot...204249288.html

Don't get me wrong here, but there are people who abuse the system and and people who neglect the system.

But in this case this I think this woman was just completely nuts. Seems to me she filed the paperwork to start the welfare, it was incomplete, and when they tried to contact her they were unable to, and she missed a number of appointments they had set up to meet with her. Seems to be a case of she filed the paperwork but failed to follow through on anything, and then went nuts and shot her kids and killed herself. Sorry, you don't kill our kids because you couldn't get welfare - you kill your kids because your a nut job.

At the same time... In that article it says the application for welfare is eighteen pages long? Really? I'm guessing that the people who need the welfare the most are not the brightest people in the world, and trying to get them to fill out eighteen pages of paperwork is difficult at best...

Failed · 12-07-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

At the same time... In that article it says the application for welfare is eighteen pages long? Really? I'm guessing that the people who need the welfare the most are not the brightest people in the world, and trying to get them to fill out eighteen pages of paperwork is difficult at best...

I think you'll find a lot of the people who need it are mentally not capable of filling out 18 pages of application questions, I agree. I also think even the average person would have trouble filling out an 18 page government application.

Then, you have the people like in your original post, and the friend you mentioned, who are smart enough to get over on the system but don't deserve the benefits.

This is the type of abuse that needs to be stopped. Both abuse of the system, and abuse of those who should receive benefits but are denied for the reasons above.

The woman mentioned in my link obviously had mental issues, whether they were constant or just a result of the stress and frustration of not being able to feed her kids, who knows. Maybe that's why she did it? She figured that it's better to kill all 3 of them fast with a bullet rather than starve to death...who knows.

Lykos · 12-07-2011, 03:40 PM

We should all try that

garce · 12-07-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

While you retards are whining about small time welfare crooks the MIC scammed you out of billions:

Not whining about "small time welfare crooks", but whining about one single small time welfare crook. All these little crooks add up. If the people mentioned in this article sold their home for a million bucks and gave up their trips abroad, they could have a half-decent welfare-free life somewhere else.

Between the big thieves and the little thieves, it all adds up.

Dead · 12-07-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by garce

Not whining about "small time welfare crooks", but whining about one single small time welfare crook. All these little crooks add up. If the people mentioned in this article sold their home for a million bucks and gave up their trips abroad, they could have a half-decent welfare-free life somewhere else.

Between the big thieves and the little thieves, it all adds up.

Greed....

Why · 12-07-2011, 07:44 PM

being from seattle and knowing a few people that have houses on the water i will fill in something that this article doesnt cover.

some parts of the lake were developed almost a hundred years ago, when it wasn't a desirable place to live. some of these houses are in terrible states of disrepair but are still valued well into the millions because the land values have gone up thousands of percent over the last few decades. without knowing more about the house, its really hard to get behind the people bashing these people.

some clearly not as sly older people on the lake have lost their homes after being forced out by exorbitant properties taxs, because the rich wanted their lake front land.

Why · 12-07-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed

I think you'll find a lot of the people who need it are mentally not capable of filling out 18 pages of application questions, I agree. I also think even the average person would have trouble filling out an 18 page government application.

there are people that cant even fill out a single page 1040EZ without help.

directfiesta · 12-07-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

being from seattle and knowing a few people that have houses on the water i will fill in something that this article doesnt cover.

some parts of the lake were developed almost a hundred years ago, when it wasn't a desirable place to live. some of these houses are in terrible states of disrepair but are still valued well into the millions because the land values have gone up thousands of percent over the last few decades. without knowing more about the house, its really hard to get behind the people bashing these people.

some clearly not as sly older people on the lake have lost their homes after being forced out by exorbitant properties taxs, because the rich wanted their lake front land.

post # 76 shows the house ... not too shaby .... lol

travs · 12-07-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

I wonder how many GFYers are claiming out of work benifits and making money on the side ?

my thoughts as well

directfiesta · 12-08-2011, 03:46 PM

Feds inspected welfare couple's $1 million home 9 times

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SEATTLE -- Records obtained by KING 5 investigators show that government inspectors were aware that a Seattle resident was receiving housing assistance to live in a $1.2 million home on Lake Washington.

Inspectors visited the home at least nine times since Lyudmila Shimonova moved in -- yet none of the officials reported the possibility of fraud. Altogether, Shimonova received $135,000 in housing assistance.

Read KING 5?s complete coverage

The government requires annual inspections of property covered by HUD rent subsidies. The inspections are safety related: The government wants to be sure that the public?s money isn't going to subsidize dangerous or uninhabitable properties.

Documents reviewed by KING 5 show that Lyudmila was truthful about her waterfront address, which federal court records show she has lived at since 2003. And inspectors noted the home's features. According to a February 2009 inspection report, the inspector noted the house is above average, has a deck, high-end appliances, a Jacuzzi tub and a view.

Inspectors recorded all those things but never reported any suspicion about fraud, according to the Seattle Housing Authority. SHA employees conduct the yearly inspections of any property that receives HUD dollars and can and do report fraud, but didn?t in this case.

The home is actually owned by Seattle doctor David Silverstein, whom Shimonova identified as her landlord when she filed for housing and cash assistance and food stamps.

Government investigators believe Silverstein and Shimonova are actually married and that they live together in the lakeside house.

The KING 5 investigators obtained a copy of the search warrant pertaining to the recent search of the 2,500 square-foot waterfront home. Agents seized a "photo album of family and dog," "greeting cards (anniversary and birthday)," and "2 postcards from Ruben to Mom and Dad." These are things agents might use to try to prove the couple is married.

Neither Shimonova or Silverstein has been charged.

... people on the take ????

Alex69 · 12-08-2011, 06:30 PM

jews....

tiger · 12-08-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Just got hit by the DWP for $1200, because they said our meter has been broken for over a year. How do they know it's $1200 if the meter is broken and they told us this last month, but haven't replaced the meter yet?

Holy shit yeah they did that to me on 3 properties as well. About 4k they supposedly didn't bill me for over the last year and a half.

12-05-2011, 04:39 PM	#51
Bryan G Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,338	Yup all folks that go on walfare are cheating the system. The amount of bullshit you sprew daily is unreal. Just like your threads about your mexican neighbours. You should post more about your awesome mustang. __________________ Bryan skype: bryan.glass3 \| ICQ 302999591

12-05-2011, 06:24 PM	#61
Caligari Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: At The Mountains Of Madness Posts: 5,414	There are quite a few people on welfare living in million dollar houses. As a matter of fact they recieved some huge welfare checks around 2008 -2009. . __________________ ATTN Webmasters Cruel Bucks - LIVE Gonzo Does Not Pay ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free Last edited by Caligari; 12-05-2011 at 06:26 PM..

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	there are always going to be scammers of every system the government puts out there, in California it's real bad. when illegal aliens can collect it, with the other cost from city and county services costing LA county about a billion a year. All because LA is a sancutary city and California pays more for welfare than any other state I believe. I know we'll never get the problem taken care of because now LA county is over 50% latino. But we'll just keep moving on spending the money for that instead of properly funding our schools, the schools here suck compared to other parts of the US __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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Cherry7 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	We have the same problem in the UK. One family lives in this house paid by the taxpayer. __________________ My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye Cinema Erotique

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shade001 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 396	All you fucking communists should move to Russia, China, North Korea and report back in a few years on what a glorious paradise it is. This isn't your little pond to piss in.

12-06-2011, 01:43 AM	#66
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Good for them. They learned how to beat a system that was set up to beat them. I hope they are able to get away with it AND continue to get paid.

12-06-2011, 10:16 PM	#76
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Cana, DR Posts: 29,589	Just a little update .... SEATTLE -- A Seattle chiropractor and his wife live in a $1.2 million waterfront home and have spent the past eight years flying to Moscow, Paris, Israel, Turkey, Mexico and the Dominican Republic. All the while, federal authorities say, the couple was collecting more than $100,000 in welfare. Now, the U.S. attorney's office is suing David Silverstein and Lyudmila Shimonova, accusing them of filing false claims and demanding that the couple pay back more than $135,000 in federal housing assistance since 2003. Prosecutors are also seeking tens of thousands of dollars in fines. In gaining Section 8 housing assistance, Shimonova represented that she lived alone with her two children and that her household assets were less than $5,000. Silverstein received the monthly benefits of $1,272 as Shimonova's purported landlord, the government said. Shimonova also received benefits under the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, as well as Social Security cash reserved for people who can't work due to age or disability and whose assets fall below a certain threshold ? $3,000 for a married couple or $2,000 for a single person, the complaint said. "Defendants have separately and, it appears, in conjunction with one another made false representations to various state and federal agencies in order to obtain federally funded benefits," assistant U.S. attorneys Harold Malkin and Kayla Stahman wrote. Meanwhile, they were traveling the world, according to Department of Homeland Security records. Michael Radyshewsky, a federal welfare fraud investigator, wrote in an application to search the couple's home that they took weeklong trips to Moscow in 2003, Dominican Republic in 2005, and Mexico and France in 2009. In 2007, they went for 12 days to Israel, and this past June they took a two-week trip to Turkey. Silverstein said Tuesday his lawyer asked him not to comment, and his lawyer, David Allen, did not immediately return a message. The home did not appear to have a listed phone number, and Shimonova's lawyer, Michele Shaw, did not return an email seeking comment. The investigation included surveillance of the three-bedroom, 2,300-square-foot home on Lake Washington, during which agents observed his black Jaguar parked there frequently. Though Shimonova had claimed she was single and lived there alone, Silverstein listed it as his residence on his driver's license and passport application, the prosecutors said. But in documents filed so that he could receive the housing assistance, he listed his office as his residence to conceal that he was living with Shimonova ? not her landlord, they said. Furthermore, it appeared clear that the pair was actually married. Silverstein wrote on the website of his chiropractic business: "On a personal note, I am happily married with two children, whose careers are in medicine and Middle Eastern studies. As a family, we all enjoy snow-shoeing, mountain climbing and ocean sports." A report of the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle for the 2010 fiscal year listed "Mila and Dr. David Silverstein" as donors. In addition to failing to disclose the marriage or living situation, Shimonova also failed to disclose bank accounts in her name containing tens of thousands of dollars, prosecutors said. The lawsuit seeks to have the couple pay $11,000 in fines for each false claim the couple made. The U.S. attorney's office declined to comment on whether criminal charges are forthcoming. __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

12-06-2011, 10:55 PM	#77
Just Alex Liv Benson to You, Bitch Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Maryland and WV Posts: 6,060	Conspiracy against Jews again. Racist bastards! __________________

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Cherry7 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	The Royal Family costs the tax payer more than 200 million pounds. They are one of the richest families in the country owning vasts tracts of lands... This family is the centerer of a "Culture of Entitlement" where a whole group of people, the richest 5%, feel they have the right to The best eduction in private school The best universities Oxford and Cambridge which then give them the best jobs The best private health care the best housing etc... __________________ My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye Cinema Erotique

12-07-2011, 08:01 AM	#82
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	How is this for a step in thee right direction that maybe everyone can agree on - how about saying the tax payers aren't going to send you a check while you're a fugitive? When I was bounty hunting a good way to find a fugitive was to show up when they came in for public assistance. __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

12-07-2011, 02:05 PM	#85
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 16,664	Not knowing much about the American system - Canada has an extremely tight welfare system and each year seem to be adding more security standards to avoid this. Is it perfect? No - but they are catching more fraud and bogus accounts. All government systems are being tied together so welfare can verify accurate information such as housing - cars - medical - income with one click authorized verification system. The system is needed for those that in extreme circumstances that have no other choices - but partial blame needs to be given to the government for not checking the honesty of their citizens since the government is being held accountable for the monies given to them by taxpayers. __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com

12-07-2011, 03:40 PM	#88
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	We should all try that __________________

12-07-2011, 07:44 PM	#91
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	being from seattle and knowing a few people that have houses on the water i will fill in something that this article doesnt cover. some parts of the lake were developed almost a hundred years ago, when it wasn't a desirable place to live. some of these houses are in terrible states of disrepair but are still valued well into the millions because the land values have gone up thousands of percent over the last few decades. without knowing more about the house, its really hard to get behind the people bashing these people. some clearly not as sly older people on the lake have lost their homes after being forced out by exorbitant properties taxs, because the rich wanted their lake front land.

12-08-2011, 06:30 PM	#96
Alex69 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 328	jews....