Originally Posted by borked

1. why are you carrying a gun around a supermarket.
2. how/why is this legal???

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Only a crazy person would go to a supermarket unarmed. I mean, seriously...



Same thing with bike riding. You can never be too paranoid, ummm, I mean, safe!



This is fucking America for God's sake!



Bang Bang!

Originally Posted by AaronM

Not everyone can and there is a process for getting a permit in most States. AZ, VT, AK, MT, & WY do not require a permit to carry concealed but you still must be legally able to possess a gun or it isn't going to be legal to carry it. Duh right?

Technically speaking, anybody anywhere in the world can carry concealed but that doesn't make it legal. Kinda funny that some people here are more concerned with my legal ability to carry than about the convicted felons who carry illegally.

36 States think it's OK for me to carry in them. The way I see it, State and Federal laws trump personal opinions.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Its not that I think you shouldn't be able to carry it. Its just my general experience of the average person being stupid and or quick to anger. I'm not saying you are but I really can't imagine the average person actually being a responsible gun carrier.

Originally Posted by L-Pink

And yet your odds are so much better being slammed by some texting idiot.

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

good job, again glad you made it out as you did... those situations can ALWAYS turn very ugly.

Originally Posted by lo0ni

Not all states allow you to carry a concealed weapon into supermarkets. In many(most?) states it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon into places of public accommodations ; even if you have a CCW permit

Originally Posted by lo0ni

You can find the info on the ATF or DOJ site, CCW forums, or any other website that has information regarding CCW regulations.

Originally Posted by AaronM

So the ATF and DOJ websites cover individual State laws like that?

Show me one link to either ATF or DOJ saying you can't conceal carry in a grocery store.

I'm not going to pretend that I know every gun law in every State but I don't believe there is on single State, who says a valid CCW permit holder can't carry in a grocery store, unless it's a State legislation based on grocery stores that offer booze sales.

Prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by lo0ni

You pretended to know every states regulations when you made the statement about the information being incorrect.

As I said in my post many states prevent you from carrying concealed weapons in places of public accommodations. Many states, such as new york, prevent concealed carry in all "public areas". CCW regulations vary greatly. Some states allow private businesses to restrict concealed carry within their premises; others prevent businesses from regulation period.

If you want the info, visit a site that has info on ccw regulations as I already gave you an example of a state that heavily regulates the carrying of concealed weapons. (And remember that your statement was that no state prevents its citizens from carrying into supermarkets)
Also CCW regulations may vary from county to county.

Originally Posted by lo0ni

My initial response wasn't made to you; so nice deflection.

Originally Posted by AaronM

So somehow that makes your post less than bullshit?

I don't give a fuck who your response was to. It was still wrong which is why you haven't stepped up and posted any documentation to back it.

Fuck off.

Originally Posted by AaronM

So I'm looking over the meat selection at the grocery store. I picked up a couple of steaks, some hamburger, and ground turkey. When I turned around to put it in my cart, the cart was gone. I looked all around me but couldn't find the cart anywhere. WTF?

OK, I guess I'll start over with a new cart. As I was walking to the front of the store, I see this 60-65 year old lady pushing my cart down the aisle. I stopped her and asked why she took my cart. She replied with "I'm sorry, am I in your way?" I told her no, but that she had my shopping cart. Then she says "Some day you will be old too." I took the cart and returned to my shopping.

The lady starts following me around the store but keeping her distance. The entire time she is on her cell phone. About 15 minutes later, I am approached by 2 police officers who ask me what I've done with the woman's purse. Now she's standing there telling them I stole her cart and her purse. They hand cuffed me and took me into the store's security office. At this point they grab my wallet and find my CCW permit then they decide to frisk me and find my gun. All of a sudden, I'm a dirt bag and they start giving me even more attitude.

The woman is still out front and I can hear her screaming about me stealing her purse. The police leave me sitting there while they calm the woman down. At the same time they have security start going over the camera footage to see what I've done with her purse. They also check the restrooms and all the store trash cans.

Now here's where it gets really good...

The security footage shows the woman leaving her cart behind & taking mine. It shows I was never within 15 feet of her cart. It then shows the woman returning to her cart, taking her cell phone out of her purse, then leaving her cart and purse behind, once again, to follow me while she called the police. While she was following me, one of the Butchers found her cart, with nobody around it, and took her purse to the lost and found which is where they ended up finding it.

Turns out the lady was dropped off at the store by one of those retirement village shuttle buses. Apparently she's got some mental issues. No shit? Really?

Pretty funny to have a cop hand me my gun back while trying to explain why he had been such an asshole to me. By the time this all ended, the cops, their Supervisor, store security, store management, and the retirement home manager were all there apologizing. I've never had so many people kissing my ass at the same time.

Fuckers should have at least given me the $54 worth of groceries for free.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

We plan on touring the states in the near future and I was concerned about each states gun laws and I came up with this http://www.gunlawguide.com/

I will be purchasing a copy of this to be sure we are compliant ;)

Originally Posted by AaronM

There are huge numbers of gun owners in this country who will not turn over their guns without a fight. IF the people in that video had refused to give up their guns and those making them do so had shot them, all hell would have broken loose. The cops, military, whoever would not be safe from retaliation and/or liability.

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

it is fairly difficult to get a CCW permit in California.
difficult as in you have to write to the local sheriff and have a pretty good reason why you need to protect yourself in public. security guard or jewelry store owner etc..
i am guessing you are in NV or AZ?

Originally Posted by lo0ni

Not all states allow you to carry a concealed weapon into supermarkets. In many(most?) states it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon into places of public accommodations ; even if you have a CCW permit

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings

this is what happens under martial law. not peaceful people walking around with concealed weapons, its martial fucking law. guns are drawn and ready.

Originally Posted by DWB

Stuff like that doesn't get enough attention.

Most people don't want to believe just how corrupt and violent some police are. Then when they hear stories, they still don't believe it. even with evidence, they try to find excuses.

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_ca...city_maps.html

Click the state you were issued your CCW in. the Map changes to show

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Thanks for the link, I think you just might have saved me some money

Originally Posted by AaronM

Hey fuck face, way to pay attention.

I posted that link back on page 2.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18864176&postcount=64


I feel ignored and invalidated. You must not love me anymore.

Gonna go cry and hug my teddy bear now.

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Walking around with a gun in a supermarket.

Fucking idiot country with idiot people.

Amazing, truly amazing.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Great answer, and one that's similar to what I tell people when they ask why I'm always carrying.

Someone then said something about living in fear if you carry all the time.... Actually at this point it's simply a habit, not fear at all. I just know that I would feel so stupid if I found myself in a situation where I needed it, and had the ability to have it with me, but didn't have it



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Originally Posted by porno jew

insane. think of your child and the world you are creating and bringing him into. absolute insanity.

like an abusive relationship, you think it is normal to creep around the supermarket with weapons, but believe me, from the outside it looks sick and deranged.

i love the average american from gfy. sleeps with guns under their pillows, patrols their garbage cans with machine guns, and now stalks the supermarket and harasses old ladies packing heat. totally deranged. but they think it is normal while the rest of the world thinks what the fuck?

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

And conversely, I find it bizarre that people would submit to a situation where only the government had weapons, and that citizens had no means to stand up to possible oppression, and where you would simply have to wait around for however long the police took to show up, in order to then protect you from the person in your house or attaching you. The blind reliance on some outside government agency to protect and defend you, especially as history has shown over and over and over again, that governments tend to do the opposite after they reach a certain level of control, is just unfathomable to me.


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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

And conversely, I find it bizarre that people would submit to a situation where only the government had weapons, and that citizens had no means to stand up to possible oppression, and where you would simply have to wait around for however long the police took to show up, in order to then protect you from the person in your house or attaching you. The blind reliance on some outside government agency to protect and defend you, especially as history has shown over and over and over again, that governments tend to do the opposite after they reach a certain level of control, is just unfathomable to me.


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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

And conversely, I find it bizarre that people would submit to a situation where only the government had weapons, and that citizens had no means to stand up to possible oppression, and where you would simply have to wait around for however long the police took to show up, in order to then protect you from the person in your house or attaching you. The blind reliance on some outside government agency to protect and defend you, especially as history has shown over and over and over again, that governments tend to do the opposite after they reach a certain level of control, is just unfathomable to me.


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Originally Posted by porno jew

do you always talk and write in what sounds like a cut and paste from right wing american talk radio and lewrockwell.com? think for yourself for once and don't be such a sheep.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Not correct. Plesae check your facts again, 32 out of 50 allow in every public place except: Government offices, Bars, sporting events, and schools (the last one is changing also)

Private business is allowed to post no weapons, but VERY few ever do.



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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

So, to be fair, the only thing he was not correct about was "(most?)".

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i hope you have some kind of fortress because a gun will not protect you from the situation you are describing and you know thats not really why you (or most others) carry a gun, its just the reasoning you use. it might help you against a single intruder but even that is a very rare situation. i tend to think those who feel the need to always have gun on them must be either be scared people or people who want to intimidate others.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Just for the record. I'm NOT a republican, I get my information form a myriad of sources and I read voraciously, mostly history. I think both parties are screwed, but...
Fair enough. You seem to me to spend all your time quoting left wing talking points, and I also urge you to think for yourself, and read from sources other than only those you agree with.

Agree to disagree, I guess.




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Originally Posted by Roald

Damn shitty situation but god damn, bunch of gun loving rednecks!!!!