Mindi

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2MuchMark (Mark Prince) - Sealioning Evidence

What is Sealioning?

Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just asking questions!"). The sealioner feigns ignorance and pretends that if you just answer this one question, they'll go away—but they never do.

THREAD 1: AI Agents / Website Deployment Thread

URL: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...-websites.html

Context:

Mindi demonstrated an AI-powered website deployment system, showing MontrealInsider.com built in real-time with 564 restaurants and 32 articles. Multiple members responded positively (pornlaw, bill_musk, fuzebox, Shoplifter, Farang, Killswitch).

The Sealioning Pattern - Post by Post

Post #55 - Opens with compliment, immediately probes:

"First let me say, impressive automation work... Im curious though: with all the early rankings youve shown, do you happen to have any traffic graphs yet?"

Post #57 - When called out, plays innocent:

"It was just a standard SEO question since you shared the ranking screenshots. I wasnt implying any competition."

Post #59 - Still playing victim after being told to leave:

"Relax... it was just a standard SEO question based on the screenshots you posted."

Post #76 - After being told to fuck off MULTIPLE TIMES, keeps pushing:

"I noticed in your Search Console screenshot that many of your top rankings are for specific restaurant names... they show very low/zero search volume. Could you share some examples of your rankings for higher-volume discovery keywords like 'best restaurants in brantford'?"

Post #78 - THE EMPLOYMENT LIE:

"To clarify: Legacy is not my employee and never was, but we have several of the same clients. I often refer contractors to my clients..."

⚠️ SMOKING GUN: TheLegacy's LinkedIn profile stated (at the time): "Chief Program Director in charge of Marketing and SEO at 2Much.net, Feb 2021 - Current"

Post #78 continued - Fake business offer:

"I have potential clients for you Minidi... I asked about ranking data for competitive keywords because that's standard due diligence when evaluating SEO claims"

Post #80 - Fake "olive branch":

"I am completely serious when I say I have 1, possibly 2 clients for you... this is an olive branch..."

Post #82 - Classic sealion deflection:

"Is my question wrong?"

Post #85 - Still pushing after 11+ rejections:

"I am asking on their behalf... Do you want her business? Her questions are valid aren't they?"

Post #87 - Links Google's helpful content guidelines (implying Mindi's content is spam)

Post #88 - THE MASK SLIPS:

"This is your last chance to prove your SEO really works."

Third-Party Observations
Umami Post #90:

"2MuchMark is the type of dude that got told no at parties and still continued to grope the girl"

Killswitch Post #92:

"Just so you're aware we can see exactly what you're trying to do and it's not cool at all"


THREAD 2: Tango Down Extension Thread
URL: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...r-blocker.html

Context

Mindi released a free Chrome extension for blocking GFY users. Coordinated attack immediately followed.

The Attack Pattern

CyberHustler Post #8:

"Practice extreme caution... Bro's post history here is almost 30 years of information mining and doxxing"

Umami Post #9:

"wouldn't be surprised if it had some kind of backdoor that steals your passwords, crypto keys"

TheLegacy Post #61: Claims "Mark Prince" (2MuchMark) reviewed the code and found:

"XSS vulnerability"
"backdoor potential"

Posts technical analysis attempting to discredit extension

2MuchMark Posts #69-70: Detailed technical FUD:

"MAJOR RED FLAGS" with <all_urls> permission
"Remote Update Mechanism = Backdoor Potential"
"XSS vulnerability" in version checker
Posts "proof of concept" exploit code

"This is sneakier than a backdoor"

Third-Party Code Verification (Contradicts 2MuchMark's Claims)

Killswitch Post #45:

"I just audited the code and it literally does exactly what it says... massive improvement from my original script"

fris Post #54:

"i agree before saying that its harmful at least look at the source code of the extension, which has nothing malicious in the code"

sarettah: Tested extension, reported bug, Mindi fixed immediately (normal software development)

THREAD 3: Snow Thread

URL: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...ive-snows.html

Context

General discussion about winter weather. Shows 2MuchMark defending TheLegacy.

2MuchMark Post #38 - Defends TheLegacy when called a fraud:

"Not liking him is one thing but why do you call Legacy a fraud?"

2MuchMark Post #41 - Pressures for response:

"Crickets? I see."


THE CONTRADICTION SUMMARY

What 2MuchMark Claims:

"It was just a standard SEO question"
"I wasnt implying any competition"
"Is my question wrong?"
"I am only asking you a simple SEO question"
"Legacy is not my employee and never was"

What 2MuchMark Actually Does:

Demands public proof that SEO rankings are legitimate
Implies rankings are for low-value keywords
Links Google guidelines (implying content is spam)
Continues pushing after 11+ explicit rejections
Issues ultimatum: "This is your last chance to prove your SEO really works"
Lies about TheLegacy employment relationship (LinkedIn proves otherwise)
Coordinates with TheLegacy on technical FUD attacks
Defends TheLegacy in unrelated threads


THE SEALIONING PLAYBOOK (Documented)

Open with a compliment to establish "good faith"
Ask "innocent" technical questions designed to cast doubt
When rejected, play victim ("just asking questions")
Ignore all boundaries - continue probing regardless of how many times told to leave
Link authoritative sources implying target is violating guidelines
Offer fake business opportunities as leverage
Demand public proof of legitimacy
Repeat "Is my question wrong?" to maintain plausible deniability
Final ultimatum revealing true intent to discredit


SOCK PUPPET ACCOUNTS (All Created June 2025)

Umami - Immediate malware accusations
lemonlinx - Harassment support
CrystalPalace - Harassment support

All three accounts created the same month, all participate in coordinated attacks.

KEY EVIDENCE LINKS

TheLegacy LinkedIn: Shows employment at 2Much.net since Feb 2021
AI Agents Thread: Full sealioning pattern documented
Tango Down Thread: Technical FUD campaign despite third-party verification
Snow Thread: 2MuchMark defending TheLegacy


Does this answer your question?

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2MuchMark

You posted a long analysis, but you still haven’t quoted where I called you dishonest, a scammer, or a stalker. If it exists, quote it.

Mindi

You don't have to use the words to make the accusation, Mark.

When you said "This is your last chance to prove your SEO really works" - you're calling me dishonest about my results.

When you posted "MAJOR RED FLAGS", "backdoor potential", and "XSS vulnerability" about my extension - you're calling me a scammer trying to steal from people.

When you questioned whether my rankings were for "real keywords" and linked Google's spam guidelines - you're implying I'm running a scam.

When TheLegacy posted that "Mark Prince reviewed the code" and found security issues that independent auditors (Killswitch, fris) confirmed DON'T EXIST - that's coordinated defamation.

And speaking of dishonesty - you said "Legacy is not my employee and never was" while his LinkedIn says "Chief Program Director at 2Much.net since Feb 2021."

So no, you didn't say "Mindi is dishonest" - you just spent weeks implying my work is fake, my extension is malware, and my business is a scam. Then when called out, you hide behind "I never said those exact words!"

That's called sealioning, Mark. And everyone here sees it.

Now will you finally go fuck off?

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2MuchMark

You’re still mixing up criticism with accusations dumdum. They’re not the same thing.

Asking for traffic after ranking screenshots is a normal SEO question. It’s how results are evaluated everywhere in clients, agencies, case studies. That’s not calling anyone dishonest.

Same with the extension. Pointing out <all_urls>, over-broad permissions, and an actual XSS issue wasn’t an insult, it was a technical review. You said you fixed them after I pointed them out. If you took my advice, then... why are you still arguing with me? And fixing a problem doesn’t mean it never existed.

At no point did I call you a scammer, a stalker, or dishonest. I questioned claims and software design. That’s scrutiny, not defamation.

You released software publicly, people asked questions, an issue was found, and you claim to have fixed it. That’s how open review is supposed to work.

Mindi

Normal questions stop after being told NO, Mark.

You asked 11+ times after I told you to leave. That's not "standard due diligence" - that's harassment.

Normal technical reviews don't contradict independent audits.

Killswitch audited the code in Post #45 and said it was clean. fris confirmed in Post #54.

Your "technical review" came AFTER they already verified there was nothing malicious. You weren't helping - you were building a case.

You didn't find an XSS issue.

I changed the version checker to use textContent instead of innerHTML as a precaution after your noise - not because there was an exploitable vulnerability. There was no user input being passed to innerHTML. You know this. You're a "programmer".

About that "scrutiny"...

CyberHustler Post #8: "information mining and doxxing"
Umami Post #9: "backdoor that steals your passwords, crypto keys"

Then YOUR "technical review" lands

That's not organic scrutiny. That's a coordinated hit.

And you're STILL dodging this:

You said: "Legacy is not my employee and never was"
His LinkedIn: "Chief Program Director at 2Much.net since Feb 2021"

Why are you lying about your relationship with the guy who's been stalking me for weeks and has joined a sociopath that has stalked me for nearly 29 years??

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Killswitch

is the 2Much prefix on your name the level of verbosity your output gives, fucking hell dude, have you ever considered the concept of "concise"?

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CyberHustler

If you going to mention me, you gonna have to quote where I lied. Until then, you can't be getting mad at truths... that you had to fix, because truth 🤣

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2MuchMark

The issue wasn’t “user input.” The risk was remote input (your server’s version.txt) being placed into innerHTML. I hope you fixed them.

“Independent audits said nothing malicious” doesn’t contradict “there was a security flaw.” Both can be true at the same time. I never said you did steal anything, I said your design created an avoidable risk.

On Legacy: he is not my employee. He said he was on his LinkedIn account and I asked. him to remove it which he did. This is something you know already, but anyway. That's on him.

Bottom line: you posted public software for people to install. It got reviewed publicly. Issues were raised. You said you improved it after I pointed it out. Good on you.

Mindi

So TheLegacy lied on his LinkedIn for 4 years about working for you?

He listed himself as "Chief Program Director at 2Much.net" since February 2021. That's not a typo - that's a job title, company name, and start date. You're telling me he fabricated employment at YOUR company for four years and you just noticed?

Either TheLegacy is a fraud who lies about his employment, or you're lying now. Pick one.

On the "security review":

You didn't do a responsible disclosure. You posted "MAJOR RED FLAGS" and "sneakier than a backdoor" publicly to scare people away from installing it. That's not helping - that's a hit piece.

Real security researchers contact developers privately first. You wanted the FUD public.

You still haven't answered:

Why did you keep asking questions 11 times after I told you to leave?

Why did CyberHustler and Umami post malware accusations before your "technical review"?

Why did your review come after Killswitch and fris already verified the code was clean?

You keep talking about the extension like that's what this is about. It's not. It's about the pattern: TheLegacy joins a longtime sociopath and stalks me for weeks, you back him up, sock puppets attack on cue, and you play "just asking questions."

We all see it.

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2MuchMark

Yes. This is me trying.

2MuchMark

I’m not choosing your made-up binary.

Legacy is not my employee. If he overstated his role on LinkedIn, that’s on him not me. Ask him, not me.

You released public software. It had security issues. You claimed they are now fixed after being pointed out. Good.

Done and done.

Mindi

You don't get to "done and done" your way out of this, Mark.

You keep saying "ask him, not me" - but TheLegacy named YOU specifically.

Post #61 in this thread, TheLegacy wrote that "Mark Prince reviewed the code" and found the issues. He didn't say "some guy" - he said YOUR NAME.

So either:

TheLegacy coordinates with you and you're lying about the relationship
TheLegacy is making up that you reviewed code you never saw

Which is it?

And "overstated his role" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

"Chief Program Director in charge of Marketing and SEO" isn't an overstatement - it's a completely fabricated executive position at your company. For four years. That's not a LinkedIn whoopsie.

You're also still dodging:

Why did you ask me the same questions 11 times after being told to leave? That's not scrutiny. That's harassment.

Why did you post "This is your last chance to prove your SEO really works" if you weren't questioning my honesty?

You want "done and done" - answer those two questions and you can have it.

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2MuchMark

Dance break!

Mindi

When you can't answer, you dance. Got it.

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CyberHustler

Lmao....

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Mindi

I'm still pissed about being banned over these two fucking clown's bullshit

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CaptainHowdy

Three pages later neither 2MuchMark nor TheLegacy are on your ignore list . . .

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TheLegacy

That's my point - use your own program and block me -I've asked him man times but he refuses - maybe because he knows the software can be tweaked to gain access to your computer - he tried to pull a fast one and got caught - now he's backpedaling bringing up everything else but not answering the question - "why aren't you Mindi/Pheer using your own software and block me forever???" I'm begging you - daring you to block me - all of your fake nick names

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2MuchMark

I guess his software doesn’t work then bwwaaaahahahahahahaha !!! ;)

Killswitch

You two do know even the lowest IQ users here can see what you are doing, right?

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Mindi

Why would I block you now? You two are the best advertisement for the extension I could ask for.

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Mindi

TheLegacy posts the attack, 2MuchMark shows up 1 hour later to pile on. But remember - "he's not my employee and never was." 🤡

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Mindi

Killswitch gets it. Let's recap:

1. TheLegacy Post #61: "Mark Prince reviewed the code"
2. TheLegacy today: "Mark found that with a little tweak..."
3. 2MuchMark: "Legacy is not my employee and never was"

Pick a story and stick with it, boys.



How many times has shit from that deleted thread popped back up in your face now? If only some GFY admin hadn't sent it to me...

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Mindi

Wouldn't it have been better for both of you to just let me advertise some SEO services and talk about Ai?

You guys thought it would be more fun to launch that coordinated attack on my business and then get me banned when I exposed your fraud link, and had the thread deleted hoping you'd just wipe it clean...

Damn, it almost worked

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TheLegacy

Mindi - Pheer you're not even suppose to be on gfy since you were banned - if anyone is going to stop it's you. So stand behind your product and block me an us unless you already know what can happen. Why are you scared of using it to block me - doesn't it work???

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Mindi

I'm Pheer. And? The LinkedIn receipt is still right there. "Chief Program Director at 2Much.net - Feb 2021." Focus, Robert.


Why don't you just fucking leave?

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Killswitch

brother get over the banned shit, what a weak as fuck argument.

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Mindi

It really burns those Canadian's ass that the very same thread they tried to have deleted when I exposed their fraud bullshit was sent to me by (I'm guessing here) the very same admin that banned Mr Pheer.

And they can't figure out why I'm allowed to be here

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