GFY is under attack by redirected Hun traffic again - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

funkmaster · 10-25-2002, 09:20 AM

" ... give you a right to cause even more severe damage to the cheater's isp, other people using that isp (if it's virtual) and as can ..."

... and in this case what about the boxes that share the router with the attacked domain at candihosting.com ???

Lensman · 10-25-2002, 09:22 AM

The attack is still underway, The Hun and I have been working together to shut down some theives, and I think this is a retalitory attack.

I haven't been able to bin down exactly where on his page the code is though.

Lensman · 10-25-2002, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
" ... give you a right to cause even more severe damage to the cheater's isp, other people using that isp (if it's virtual) and as can ..."

... and in this case what about the boxes that share the router with the attacked domain at candihosting.com ???

A. GFY is in our own datacenter.

B. It doesn't effect anything else on our network, the server GFY is on can take a couple million hits a day, but it's the VBulletin scripts that can't. Mike's filter works great as you can see, but it has to deny 100,000 connections an hour!

Fletch XXX · 10-25-2002, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman
The attack is still underway, The Hun and I have been working together to shut down some theives, and I think this is a retalitory attack.

You guys are the ones who are in power to do so.

Nice.

We will sit it out.

redshift · 10-25-2002, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Ok, here's the full explanation of this.

I've been bugged by someone running drawnsex.com. He builds good galleries which are usually listed, and then redirects part of his traffic to rape sites. I find out shortly after he changed it by reports from visitors, but still he annoys the shit out of me. We had an argument before. He hides behind everything he can, doesn't have the balls to talk to me directly, but is smart enough a programmer to redirect the traffic I was sending his way ;-)

Anyway, this guy is a pain in the ass. And he has not seen the last of me. I'd be watching my server very closely if I were him. There's a lot more arrows on my bow. This attack was redirected to FGY, and I'm sorry for that, but drawnsex.com is to blame for this one. There will be more to follow. If people can't just stick to the rules and deliberately cheat on others and keep doing it even when I simply request he stops cheating on me and my visitors it's time for some action.

I don't know if anybody is in contact with this irritating little kid. He doesn't want to listen... so I'll have to resolve to other methods of getting him to stop

It's pretty pathetic to see someone in this business that doesn't seem to be able to make money the honest way, but has to resolve on cheating on link-sites to make himself some doe... Very pathetic...

why dont you go ahead and make thehun a private submit only tgp?

I would even pay for this - like im doing with some other tgp's?

TheMan · 10-25-2002, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
The attack is still underway, The Hun and I have been working together to shut down some theives, and I think this is a retalitory attack.

I haven't been able to bin down exactly where on his page the code is though.

Like i said... He has some sort of thing that tracks the first 10 ip's. Then after that all the ip's will be redirected to the url of his choice. You will find nothing in his source.

Lensman · 10-25-2002, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Due
Use htaccess to setup a password for traffic comming from thehun.net.
Redirect 401 to a password protected area. And redirect that to a password protected area. etc etc.
Then visiting thehun would be very annoying since it will keep asking for a password all the time and mayby thehun will figure out some other way to deal with cheaters or whatever it is.

You're an idea man, I like that.

ServerGenius · 10-25-2002, 09:46 AM

If it's in your own datacenter why not block it in the router instead
of having a server to deal with it......? this can't be too hard to stop.

DynaMite

Mike69 · 10-25-2002, 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by DynaSpain
If it's in your own datacenter why not block it in the router instead
of having a server to deal with it......? this can't be too hard to stop.

DynaMite

Hmmm, never seen a router block by referring URL.... IP, Mac Address ect but not by URL. I'd like to get a look at that router.

pornjudge · 10-25-2002, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
This attack was redirected to FGY, and I'm sorry for that, but drawnsex.com is to blame for

Hey the Hun, its GFY & not FGY, just in case you forgot

jimmyf · 10-25-2002, 09:56 AM

How come awhile ago I wanted to post a quote to someone and GFY poped a screen User: Password: and I think Domain... I had to reboot....

J B · 10-25-2002, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheMan

Like i said... He has some sort of thing that tracks the first 10 ip's. Then after that all the ip's will be redirected to the url of his choice. You will find nothing in his source.

If that's all they do it shouldn't be too difficult to catch them. If somebody wants to discuss this just hit me up on ICQ (5210719).

Nasty · 10-25-2002, 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Excuse me?

You say he's pulled this shit on you before YET you still take his galleries cuz they're pretty good?

This makes no sense.

Why haven't you banned all submissions from him? Not like you are hard up for submissions Hun.

I had a bunch of these galleries slip past me on my tgp, he does not use drawnsex to post, he uses several different nameservers and 50+ domains to post with and his galleries are top notch

FATPad · 10-25-2002, 10:04 AM

Make people pay to submit galleries. Less cheaters.

Whatever happened with that idea anyways? I liked it.

421Fill · 10-25-2002, 10:10 AM

I'm with TGF.. shoulda just listed my galleries... 1 every 3 days, and I've never ever tried to cheat.

Seriously, though, it is kind of frustrating to never get listed inlieu of pricks like this drawnsex guy getting listed enough to be able to cause something like this. hrm.

Ron2k1 · 10-25-2002, 10:25 AM

I find The Hun's action a little amateuristic, but I'm impressed by the power of The Hun.

Jer · 10-25-2002, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty

hehe.. Mike... I didn't know that GOD was Canadian ;)

PK, that's because GOD IS BRAZILIAN

Ace-Ace · 10-25-2002, 10:30 AM

Interesting situation here...fun to follow.

foe · 10-25-2002, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Excuse me?

You say he's pulled this shit on you before YET you still take his galleries cuz they're pretty good?

This makes no sense.

Have you heard the expression - "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me!" ?

Why haven't you banned all submissions from him? Not like you are hard up for submissions Hun.

Or as Bush would say it "Fool me once shame on"

Va2k · 10-25-2002, 10:33 AM

Well FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did NOT know how much iam addicated to this place. SHIT Couldnt get on since I got up fucked my whole day up... HOLY shit I need to find where I left my life and go back and beg it to come back home.

The Hun · 10-25-2002, 10:35 AM

There was a discussion about paying for submissions and such a while back here on the GFY. I see one big problem with it that made me decide not to go through with it: it would create an obligation. I think when people pay to be able to submit that they'd be pissed off if I would decline their gallery 'cause I didn't think it was good enough. I could put this all in the rules and everything, but if I'd decline it money would be wasted.

The only way to clear that problem would be to accept the galleries first and then let the payment decide if an accepted gallery would indeed be listed or not. Problem with that is that if a cheater would know the submission would be placed he'd pay some money for it to let it go through. The fees wouldn't be too hight. I will have payment information for a submitter like that, that's true... 'cause ways of payment are harder to come by than IP-addresses...

I realise the whole IMG-Source thing (which is roughly what I did, it works a little differently) could take down people that are 'merely' on the same server with another virtual account. In this particular case that wasn't how it was. But I used this trick before. This is all about people that do not want to listen and fail to show any respect for me, my site and my rules (which I can set on my own site I think). It is a 'last resort'... well, not truely, there's some other tricks I have up my sleeve, but I never had to use those yet, it will be a lot of fun finding out if they would work.

I'm pretty sure the kid who runs Drawnsex reads this as well, so I won't go into detail. But don't worry, he'll be the first to know anyway ;-).

I had to make excuses to hosts and stuff before. They all don't like the results of the actions taken, but most of 'em respect the reason I did it. The host is warned about any violations or cheats someone is pulling. The img source is only used if this host fails to even give so much as a reply...

It's a very shady thing to do, I realise that 100%. But would you do nothing if people disrespect any of your rules and 'cause hundreds of your visitors to be caught in a site stuffed with rape pictures and dialer programs?

In this case I wrote online-dialer, which is the company drawnsex.com is sending traffic to. Not even a single reply from them. Next time a gallery sneaks through I might have to pull this very stunt I did here directly on the host. Or I might want to find a better way first ;-)

Anyway, this whole cheating business every now and then pisses me off so much that I spend a lot of time trying to get these people down. My visitors get pissed off 'cause of drawnsex and I will do just about everything to keep my visitors happy. I'm sure this drawnsex kid does this to pretty much all link-sites out there. He goes by a lot of domains and a lot of names.

Cheaters do cause a lot of work. I blacklisted the whole of Cogent simply 'cause they were a haven for mostly Russian webmasters who cheated on every possible way. And they had accounts on pretty much all cogent's boxes. Blacklisting a domain-name wouldn't work. A couple of bucks buys you a new domain. It's not that webmasters are too lazy to blacklist only the cheaters instead of the entire domain, it's just almost impossible to filter out the rotten apples completely without blacklisting the whole IP-range. Another example of the good having to suffer for the bad. Unfortunately that's how things start to be...

DarkJedi · 10-25-2002, 10:40 AM

Hun, please make payed submissions.

1. Lots of bullshit posters will be eliminated
2. Quality would skyrocket
3. Honest webmasters will benefit
4. There will be much less cheaters

Ramster · 10-25-2002, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by turbo
I'm with TGF.. shoulda just listed my galleries... 1 every 3 days, and I've never ever tried to cheat.

Seriously, though, it is kind of frustrating to never get listed inlieu of pricks like this drawnsex guy getting listed enough to be able to cause something like this. hrm.

I hear ya. I usually get listed at thehun. But only about 2, maybe 3 galleries per month. I follow the rules and submit every 4-5 days only. Never cheated, never will. (Thanks btw!)

The reason a guy like that asshole gets listed all the time is he is probably a good designer of galleries and he is buying new fresh content to build galleries with. When a sponsor lists new content, he buys, builds and submits. Then cheats like the rat asshole he is.

421Fill · 10-25-2002, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun

Cheaters do cause a lot of work. I blacklisted the whole of Cogent simply 'cause they were a haven for mostly Russian webmasters who cheated on every possible way. And they had accounts on pretty much all cogent's boxes. Blacklisting a domain-name wouldn't work. A couple of bucks buys you a new domain. It's not that webmasters are too lazy to blacklist only the cheaters instead of the entire domain, it's just almost impossible to filter out the rotten apples completely without blacklisting the whole IP-range. Another example of the good having to suffer for the bad. Unfortunately that's how things start to be...

woah. good thing my host uses Verio.

Jon2 · 10-25-2002, 10:44 AM

The hun...

The whole img scr thing is complete bullshit...

You effect other people more then your target...You can slow down routers...You can slow down servers...You could put a grinding halt to a entire network...

Do you not feel bad about this?

Not to mention it is illegal...This isn't all about people that don't want to listen...Its about you thinking you can just use your traffic to take down entire servers because they didn't respect you...What about all the users who didn't even fucken know you? I doubt they would respect you after you caused their site to go down for no fucken reason....

This is the bad thing about people with alot of traffic...They think they are god or something....

Jon

10-25-2002, 10:45 AM

Hun, do you have any idea about the psychological damage you caused

I don't think I'll ever recover... GFY can't ever be down ...

10-25-2002, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by qualitythumbs

This is the bad thing about people with alot of traffic...They think they are god or something....

They are. At least on the internet.

TDF · 10-25-2002, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
... impossible to filter out the rotten apples completely without blacklisting the whole IP-range. Another example of the good having to suffer for the bad. Unfortunately that's how things start to be...

so rape isnt allowed but beasts are?

Jon2 · 10-25-2002, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Equinox

They are. At least on the internet.

Hell no they ain't...Its cool and all they got that much traffic...congrats and whatnot...But I don't fucken care if someone has 10 hits a day or 1,000,000 hits a day...I ain't gonna look at em or treat em any differently...

I understand the hun feels he is being disrespected...But...I don't think its worth effecting innocent people...

Jon

Pornwolf · 10-25-2002, 10:51 AM

He blocked the whole of Cogent!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !

Between that and being able to shut down the # 1 adult webmaster message board with a fraction of his traffic I'm starting to wonder if he should really change his name to Thor!

10-25-2002, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by qualitythumbs

I understand the hun feels he is being disrespected...But...I don't think its worth effecting innocent people...

Jon

None of us are completely innocent.

Jon2 · 10-25-2002, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Equinox

None of us are completely innocent.

hehe.... :-)

damnit GFY is slowing down again...Man your battlestations

Jon

eru · 10-25-2002, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
He blocked the whole of Cogent!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !

Between that and being able to shut down the # 1 adult webmaster message board with a fraction of his traffic I'm starting to wonder if he should really change his name to Thor!

10-25-2002, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Between that and being able to shut down the # 1 adult webmaster message board with a fraction of his traffic I'm starting to wonder if he should really change his name to Thor!

The Hun · 10-25-2002, 11:01 AM

qt, please read the posts I made here. The decision is not as easily made as you imply here. But would you let your hard work taken down by someone who is only out to make a quick buck regardless how it's done? I don't just attack everybody I don't like, and actions like this are taken against people that redirect people straight to dialers, rape sites and/or child pornography. Is someone ads a console once his gallery is listed will be written, removed and blacklisted (in that order), but will not be harassed any more. This person in particular was already blacklisted with 40 of domains, written numerous times. Nothing helped. Like I said, it's a last resort. And I can use the tool 'cause I have the power, indeed, but to imply I act like God for using it in very rare occasions... sounds a bit overdone to me

Fletch XXX · 10-25-2002, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
He blocked the whole of Cogent!

That sucks.

Jon2 · 10-25-2002, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
qt, please read the posts I made here. The decision is not as easily made as you imply here. But would you let your hard work taken down by someone who is only out to make a quick buck regardless how it's done? I don't just attack everybody I don't like, and actions like this are taken against people that redirect people straight to dialers, rape sites and/or child pornography. Is someone ads a console once his gallery is listed will be written, removed and blacklisted (in that order), but will not be harassed any more. This person in particular was already blacklisted with 40 of domains, written numerous times. Nothing helped. Like I said, it's a last resort. And I can use the tool 'cause I have the power, indeed, but to imply I act like God for using it in very rare occasions... sounds a bit overdone to me

Hit me up on email...

[email protected]

Or Icq: 59505407

Jon

http · 10-25-2002, 11:04 AM

Oh c'mon, whole cogent?

The Hun · 10-25-2002, 11:07 AM

Sucks indeed... but where is there left to do? To Cogent I'm just some guy with a pretty story. If they'd take down cheater's sites I would put 'em back up in no time. There's quite a few cheaters on smutserver, but as soon as I write 'em the complete site is gone. That means all listings of that cheater are invalid, including the ones on other link-sites. That means a lot of work down the drain and usually the end of the cheater cheating...

I don't want to put too many limitations on who can submit and who can't. Seems there won't be any choices left through... And all 'cause of one or two cheaters, 'cause I'm really not talking about a lot more of those...

quiet · 10-25-2002, 11:09 AM

play the img src game, and eventually you will get burned.

The Hun · 10-25-2002, 11:12 AM

O quiet, I know... and I don't mind baring the concequences of that. So far it solved a lot of things for me... Most cheaters don't have the resources to crawl back up from a blow like this. It's fighting fire with fire, I realise that like I said before. But sometimes I think fighting fire with fire can be justified...

Pornwolf · 10-25-2002, 11:15 AM

Nah man, not that you act like god, the fact that you are one of the few guys ABLE to do it is incredible!

This board is is one of the most active boards on the net, frequented by some of the most hyper-surfing biggest bandwidth hogs on the entire net!

Bringing this place down isn't the easiest thing in the world to do considering it's run by a guy who's used to pushing more B/W than 95% of the businesses on the web!

It's funny to me! You got the Hun logo but you are throwing lightning bolts!

Rip · 10-25-2002, 11:18 AM

I cannot imagine the number of cheaters that you have to deal with...

I probably get 1/100 the submissions that you do, and yet find 75-85% of the galleries cheaters or multi submitters (diff domains - same guys)

They must be using a script or something to mass reproduce and submit, but the viruses that they load on the pages, scripts etc are a real big pain

oh well c'est la vie, no simple answers for this

Amputate Your Head · 10-25-2002, 11:22 AM

what I wanna know is, if Hun's hammer can bring whole server farms to their freakin' knees..., what the hell kinda inhuman monster fucking servers does Hun have that he's accepting all this traffic 24/7/365 smoothly??!

DrGuile · 10-25-2002, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
what I wanna know is, if Hun's hammer can bring whole server farms to their freakin' knees..., what the hell kinda inhuman monster fucking servers does Hun have that he's accepting all this traffic 24/7/365 smoothly??!

his other company is called 'google', you might have heard of it ;p

hehehe

google img src-ing would be interesting...

Kimmykim · 10-25-2002, 11:54 AM

Sometimes a little 1x1 present is a necessary evil lol...

So long as Lens doesn't care, I don't see it's such a big deal --

deleteduser · 10-25-2002, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by DrGuile

his other company is called 'google', you might have heard of it ;p

hehehe

google img src-ing would be interesting...

i'd say microsoft.com has alot more daily traffic then google.

SleazyDream · 10-25-2002, 12:03 PM

Hun's not to blaim here, it's drawnsex.com that is at fault. That traffic the hun sent to drawnsex technically was then the property of drawnsex.com - even if it was meant to shut him down by overloading his server.
Once the hun's traffic (even if it was only an image pull) hit drawnsex's server drawnsex.com sent it to GFY to fuck up GFY. Drawnsex is at fault, not the hun.

You can only be held accountable for the actions you are responsible for - not for what others do.

Blaiming the hun for this is no different than blaiming Sears for selling OJ a kitchen knife.

kmanrox · 10-25-2002, 12:07 PM

hey fletch, the herb sucks out here, send me a care package

Amputate Your Head · 10-25-2002, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
Blaiming the hun for this is no different than blaiming Sears for selling OJ a kitchen knife.

well, we all know Sears was totally at fault there....

10-25-2002, 09:46 AM	#58
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10-25-2002, 09:56 AM	#61
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10-25-2002, 10:04 AM	#64
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10-25-2002, 10:10 AM	#65
421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 19,194	I'm with TGF.. shoulda just listed my galleries... 1 every 3 days, and I've never ever tried to cheat. Seriously, though, it is kind of frustrating to never get listed inlieu of pricks like this drawnsex guy getting listed enough to be able to cause something like this. hrm. __________________ 99.912% of the world survived the covid pandemic. "if the allegations that the judge raped the sheriff's daughter are true..." -- 'Things I Never Thought I would Say' for $1,000, Alex

10-25-2002, 10:30 AM	#68
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10-25-2002, 09:20 AM	#51
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	" ... give you a right to cause even more severe damage to the cheater's isp, other people using that isp (if it's virtual) and as can ..." ... and in this case what about the boxes that share the router with the attacked domain at candihosting.com ???

10-25-2002, 09:22 AM	#52
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	The attack is still underway, The Hun and I have been working together to shut down some theives, and I think this is a retalitory attack. I haven't been able to bin down exactly where on his page the code is though.

10-25-2002, 10:25 AM	#66
Ron2k1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,573	I find The Hun's action a little amateuristic, but I'm impressed by the power of The Hun.

10-25-2002, 10:33 AM	#70
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	Well FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did NOT know how much iam addicated to this place. SHIT Couldnt get on since I got up fucked my whole day up... HOLY shit I need to find where I left my life and go back and beg it to come back home. __________________

10-25-2002, 10:35 AM	#71
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	There was a discussion about paying for submissions and such a while back here on the GFY. I see one big problem with it that made me decide not to go through with it: it would create an obligation. I think when people pay to be able to submit that they'd be pissed off if I would decline their gallery 'cause I didn't think it was good enough. I could put this all in the rules and everything, but if I'd decline it money would be wasted. The only way to clear that problem would be to accept the galleries first and then let the payment decide if an accepted gallery would indeed be listed or not. Problem with that is that if a cheater would know the submission would be placed he'd pay some money for it to let it go through. The fees wouldn't be too hight. I will have payment information for a submitter like that, that's true... 'cause ways of payment are harder to come by than IP-addresses... I realise the whole IMG-Source thing (which is roughly what I did, it works a little differently) could take down people that are 'merely' on the same server with another virtual account. In this particular case that wasn't how it was. But I used this trick before. This is all about people that do not want to listen and fail to show any respect for me, my site and my rules (which I can set on my own site I think). It is a 'last resort'... well, not truely, there's some other tricks I have up my sleeve, but I never had to use those yet, it will be a lot of fun finding out if they would work. I'm pretty sure the kid who runs Drawnsex reads this as well, so I won't go into detail. But don't worry, he'll be the first to know anyway ;-). I had to make excuses to hosts and stuff before. They all don't like the results of the actions taken, but most of 'em respect the reason I did it. The host is warned about any violations or cheats someone is pulling. The img source is only used if this host fails to even give so much as a reply... It's a very shady thing to do, I realise that 100%. But would you do nothing if people disrespect any of your rules and 'cause hundreds of your visitors to be caught in a site stuffed with rape pictures and dialer programs? In this case I wrote online-dialer, which is the company drawnsex.com is sending traffic to. Not even a single reply from them. Next time a gallery sneaks through I might have to pull this very stunt I did here directly on the host. Or I might want to find a better way first ;-) Anyway, this whole cheating business every now and then pisses me off so much that I spend a lot of time trying to get these people down. My visitors get pissed off 'cause of drawnsex and I will do just about everything to keep my visitors happy. I'm sure this drawnsex kid does this to pretty much all link-sites out there. He goes by a lot of domains and a lot of names. Cheaters do cause a lot of work. I blacklisted the whole of Cogent simply 'cause they were a haven for mostly Russian webmasters who cheated on every possible way. And they had accounts on pretty much all cogent's boxes. Blacklisting a domain-name wouldn't work. A couple of bucks buys you a new domain. It's not that webmasters are too lazy to blacklist only the cheaters instead of the entire domain, it's just almost impossible to filter out the rotten apples completely without blacklisting the whole IP-range. Another example of the good having to suffer for the bad. Unfortunately that's how things start to be...

10-25-2002, 10:40 AM	#72
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Hun, please make payed submissions. 1. Lots of bullshit posters will be eliminated 2. Quality would skyrocket 3. Honest webmasters will benefit 4. There will be much less cheaters

10-25-2002, 10:44 AM	#75
Jon2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,875	The hun... The whole img scr thing is complete bullshit... You effect other people more then your target...You can slow down routers...You can slow down servers...You could put a grinding halt to a entire network... Do you not feel bad about this? Not to mention it is illegal...This isn't all about people that don't want to listen...Its about you thinking you can just use your traffic to take down entire servers because they didn't respect you...What about all the users who didn't even fucken know you? I doubt they would respect you after you caused their site to go down for no fucken reason.... This is the bad thing about people with alot of traffic...They think they are god or something.... Jon

10-25-2002, 10:45 AM	#76
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Hun, do you have any idea about the psychological damage you caused I don't think I'll ever recover... GFY can't ever be down ...

10-25-2002, 10:51 AM	#80
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	He blocked the whole of Cogent! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ! Between that and being able to shut down the # 1 adult webmaster message board with a fraction of his traffic I'm starting to wonder if he should really change his name to Thor! __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-25-2002, 11:01 AM	#85
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	qt, please read the posts I made here. The decision is not as easily made as you imply here. But would you let your hard work taken down by someone who is only out to make a quick buck regardless how it's done? I don't just attack everybody I don't like, and actions like this are taken against people that redirect people straight to dialers, rape sites and/or child pornography. Is someone ads a console once his gallery is listed will be written, removed and blacklisted (in that order), but will not be harassed any more. This person in particular was already blacklisted with 40 of domains, written numerous times. Nothing helped. Like I said, it's a last resort. And I can use the tool 'cause I have the power, indeed, but to imply I act like God for using it in very rare occasions... sounds a bit overdone to me

10-25-2002, 11:04 AM	#88
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	Oh c'mon, whole cogent?

10-25-2002, 11:07 AM	#89
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Sucks indeed... but where is there left to do? To Cogent I'm just some guy with a pretty story. If they'd take down cheater's sites I would put 'em back up in no time. There's quite a few cheaters on smutserver, but as soon as I write 'em the complete site is gone. That means all listings of that cheater are invalid, including the ones on other link-sites. That means a lot of work down the drain and usually the end of the cheater cheating... I don't want to put too many limitations on who can submit and who can't. Seems there won't be any choices left through... And all 'cause of one or two cheaters, 'cause I'm really not talking about a lot more of those...

10-25-2002, 11:09 AM	#90
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	play the img src game, and eventually you will get burned.

10-25-2002, 11:12 AM	#91
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	O quiet, I know... and I don't mind baring the concequences of that. So far it solved a lot of things for me... Most cheaters don't have the resources to crawl back up from a blow like this. It's fighting fire with fire, I realise that like I said before. But sometimes I think fighting fire with fire can be justified...

10-25-2002, 11:15 AM	#92
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Nah man, not that you act like god, the fact that you are one of the few guys ABLE to do it is incredible! This board is is one of the most active boards on the net, frequented by some of the most hyper-surfing biggest bandwidth hogs on the entire net! Bringing this place down isn't the easiest thing in the world to do considering it's run by a guy who's used to pushing more B/W than 95% of the businesses on the web! It's funny to me! You got the Hun logo but you are throwing lightning bolts! __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-25-2002, 11:18 AM	#93
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	I cannot imagine the number of cheaters that you have to deal with... I probably get 1/100 the submissions that you do, and yet find 75-85% of the galleries cheaters or multi submitters (diff domains - same guys) They must be using a script or something to mass reproduce and submit, but the viruses that they load on the pages, scripts etc are a real big pain oh well c'est la vie, no simple answers for this

10-25-2002, 11:22 AM	#94
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	what I wanna know is, if Hun's hammer can bring whole server farms to their freakin' knees..., what the hell kinda inhuman monster fucking servers does Hun have that he's accepting all this traffic 24/7/365 smoothly??! __________________ SIG TOO BIG

10-25-2002, 11:54 AM	#96
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Sometimes a little 1x1 present is a necessary evil lol... So long as Lens doesn't care, I don't see it's such a big deal --

10-25-2002, 12:03 PM	#98
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	Hun's not to blaim here, it's drawnsex.com that is at fault. That traffic the hun sent to drawnsex technically was then the property of drawnsex.com - even if it was meant to shut him down by overloading his server. Once the hun's traffic (even if it was only an image pull) hit drawnsex's server drawnsex.com sent it to GFY to fuck up GFY. Drawnsex is at fault, not the hun. You can only be held accountable for the actions you are responsible for - not for what others do. Blaiming the hun for this is no different than blaiming Sears for selling OJ a kitchen knife. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

10-25-2002, 12:07 PM	#99
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,290	hey fletch, the herb sucks out here, send me a care package __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor