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Old 10-26-2002, 02:43 AM   #351
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Old 10-26-2002, 03:05 AM   #352
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"Or are you going to start killing people who submit bad galleries next?"

This would definitely get rid of the cheaters! ;)

TheHun,
GFY is still moving like molasses like me, so I suspect the img srcing is still going on? If so - it might be time to stop; evidently it's not hurting this guy whatsoever.
Have you tried going upstream on this guy? Contacting his host; if they don't answer, contact *their* upstream provider, if they don't answer, contact *their* upstream provider.

Such as if he's got his own server and he doesn't answer, then contact the company who hosts his server (let's say it's Rackshack). If they don't answer, then contact the bandwidth provider that he's on (Verio)... and so forth. Phone calls work better than emails.

I, for one, would NOT mind putting in full contact info to submit to you. Perhaps this is something to consider. Evidently you've given paid listings some thought and decided against it - and I agree but for different reasons; if you have the same 50 webmasters submitting all the time then eventually they're going to run out of ideas for fresh-looking galleries and to your surfers they'll all look the same. But there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Such as requiring full contact info, or requiring that the submitter's email match the WHOIS info for the domain, or that the WHOIS info for the domain the gallery is on simply must be valid (no 123-456-7890 stuff for the phone number, etc).

Or you could set up a few different servers on different IPs, sub-classes, and domains to do the cheat-detection. This wouldn't be too costly to do. *One* of them would catch the thing and ban it.

Another idea is to have a little button next to each listing where a surfer can immediately report a redirecting link. Any link reported this way would *immediately* go into a temporary "holding" file/database until it could be checked, and the link would drop off of your gallery listing immediately. You've got a lot of surfers who'd be more than willing to click on a simple link for you, thereby saving you a LOT of work! You could script a program to run through the temporary database and check them; some it could obviously ban instantly but others would need to be checked by hand.
Or just do a "surfers rule" type of democracy - if a surfer reports you as cheating, your gallery is gone. Period. No questions asked. Do not pass Go, do not collect 20,000 hits.

There are many different ways to go about reaching your goal. When you img src someone you *could* be affecting other sites on that person's server who have nothing to do with the fight between you and the gallery maker. Or on that person's router. When you're with a host it's not your fault if you get connected via router to a cheater - but you can indirectly pay the consequences for it when someone with huge traffic comes along and does an img src. This is totally separate from the "cheater redirecting somewhere else issue", and needs to be taken into consideration.

Btw, thanks for the time you've spent here explaining all of this -
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Old 10-26-2002, 03:16 AM   #353
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Hello guys!

I'm the guy from drawnsex.com

This is a really interesting thread, and that's fun for me that The Hun is lying through the whole trhead.

First of all, I didn't receive any e-mails from him after our discussion which was around 3-4 months ago. As it seemed to me he had nothing to answer and didn't answer. After this I didn't get any single e-mail.

I remember the last message to you: continue this and you will be attacked again. YOU initiated the attack by submitting. If you don't submit to me you don't get attacked by me. Simple as that. In the mean time you're STILL -trying- to submit to me. So, hear this: ANY ATTEMPT TO SUBMIT TO MY SITE WILL RESULT IN ANY ACTION I CAN THINK OFF. There you have it. If you don't submit I'll leave you alone. But you want to swim in my pond. I make the rules in my pond, not you. If you don't like the rules: pick another pond. If you bend the rules to your own liking: expect to be be pushing under water. As a warning first, and an extra warning as second (both of which you recieved), but the third won't be a little warning anymore.

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I'm curious about people blaming me in something.

I don't break any laws, this is the Hun who is breaking laws.

I'm really sorry that Hun's (!) attack affects GFY, but GFY is the biggest webmasters forum in my opinion and it's the best way for me to find people who pay attention to this problem.

This redirecting of Hun's attack is not about to crush GFY from my side, I hope you are able to understand this, it's just about to draw whole attention which is possible to this problem.

I was respecting Hun. Really respecting. He is the guy who created the biggest TGP on the web. But I lost whole respect to him now. This asshole (excuse me for such words) thinks that he is the God and he is allowed to do anything that he wants. He thinks that there are no laws wich work for him.

Respecting people means sticking to their rules. It's ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT you EVER respected me. If you didn't show a complete and utter disrespect for my rules we wouldn't have any problems now, do you understand that? Do you understand that I do not screw around with people that don't screw around with me? Don't try to put the blame elsewhere. You are the ONLY one to blame for this. You cheat, you carry the concequenses, easy as that.

The solution to "this problem" is easy. Stop submitting to me. And you can complain all you want that I didn't mail you, you KNEW damn well what was coming to you. You've been attacked before. Same thing happened then. The attack launced was a simple one. I can initiate that in about 30 seconds. I will get your server down if you EVER submit to me again. So if anything happens with your server it will be YOUR OWN FAULT. You've been warned over and over again. Submit me to me and know what happens. Now let this be 100% clear to you: IF YOU SUBMIT TO ME EVER AGAIN I WILL GET YOU DOWN. Obviously if you do not submit I will not take any actions. You've been warned

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Okay, I'm in Russia, that's pretty tough for me to sue him fior this ILLEGAL ATTACK, and I'm not going to do that, but I hope you all understand that this sucks.

Let me explain my position.

If you run TGP - you expect to get some "cheating" galleries, where the traffic is redirected to other sites. That's YOUR JOB to remove such galleries from your listiing.
Ok, you're in Russia, so I can't sue you. Let me explain my position. If you cheat on people expect to get burned. Expect the whole thing to blow up right in your face. Simple as that. That is the risk that comes with YOUR JOB. You are to blame for this, I'm just attempting to make sure the rules I set for MY page are followed. If you don't follow the rules, expect to get hurt.

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If you expect to have 100% clean TGP without problems - then you are probably a mad guy, who lost his head somethere on the heavens or any other pretty far place.

That's very simple. If you get gallery with redirect - you remove it from your listing, you ban domain (IP, DNS), etc.
If you expect to disrespect someones rules completely and walk away unharmed you are probably a mad guy. Please expect your head to be on the heavens or any other pretty far place for cheating on people. Simple as that.

I banned your IP's, DNS's and everything. And you just registed new names and more to new IP-addresses. I made it VERY clear to you your actions weren't appreciated. VERY clear. You're playing Mr. Innocent here to proof anybody how God-like I act and how sorry we should all feel for Mr. Russian Cheater, but that's not working. Actually I'm glad you came forward here. You gave me the same BS last time. Oh, it's your job to delete it blabla I respect you blabla I'm from Russia so I'm poor blablabla...

Facts are simple: I have a page. My Page. My rules. Don't like the rules? Don't submit.

Submit anyway? Ignore requests? Show absolutely no respect? Well... you now know what will happen.

Damned, "I respected The Hun"... Hahaha! Don't make me laugh. You steal from someone, break every rule they have (submitting more than allowed, submitting using more than one e-mail address/name, redirecting, you name it) and then "loosing respect" when they get back at you?! Sorry attempt to gain people's sympathy here Mr...

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Guys, I never had an idea to IMG SRC mr Hun because he removes my galleries from listing, althought I can do this, I have enough traffic to hurt him.

But this is fucking illegal and stupid and I will never do this.
May I point out again that you were swimming in MY pond? I set the rules there, not you. You submit to me, not the other way around. I can delete a gallery without breaking anybody's rules. My Site, My Rules. Comprende?

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Why this asshole (excuse me again) can do this?

He doesn't want to do his job. He just wants to post pics of his new cars on GFY, instead of doing his job. Is that MY problem?
Or YOURS? I think that's HIS problem. That's not hard. That's simple.

He just expected to do his job, remove my gals if he doesn't like them (because of bad content or redirect, that doesn't make sense), and that's ALL.
Posing cars is done out of enthousiasm. I feel the people here are people to share good stories with. I'm enthousiastic about the cars so I post it here. This has NOTHING to do with doing my job right or wrong.

I'm doing my job. I take care of my problems. I wrote you, wrote you again, wrote you again, you disregarded my requests and kept on cheating STATING EVEN YOU WOULD GO ON DOING THIS regardless of my requests... Then I took care of the problem with tougher methods. That's how you play these games. Someone here put it very well

1: ask 'em to stop
2: tell 'em to stop
3: demand 'em to stop
4: make 'em stop

You are at level 4 now. And I think I have been way too kind to you by sticking ing level 1 through 3 for so long

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Where am I wrong?

And I'm NOT redirecting whole traffic to rape sites. Less than 10% percents. Other traffic is going to mainstream sites. That's another fun thing about Mr Hun.
If he wants to contact me - that's not a problem, we can do that.
He doesn't need to cry here. Stop crying. Just write e-mail, and talk to me if you want.
Oh, this is priceless. I tell you you're redirecting to rape sites. You reply "Oh, I'm NOT redirecting whole traffic, less then 10%"... LESS THEN 10% IS REDIRECTING TOO YOU MORON!!!!

I didn't cry here, I explained people what happened. Please get your facts straight.

We e-mailed before, remember? Did that work? No. not at all. SO WHY ON EARTH SHOULD I SPEND THE TIME TO TALK TO YOU THROUGH E-MAIL AGAIN?? I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY LIFE THEN TO E-MAIL WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS PROVEN TO IGNORE ANY OF MY REQUESTS ANYWAY. Why I didn't mail? Simple: you showed me on more than one occasion that mailing you wouldn't make any difference to the situation.

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And another thing. Why I lost whole of my respect to Mr Hun. LONG time ago, when I posted my frist gallery with redirect to Mr Hun he answered with IMG SRC. This is WEIRD, FUCKING BAD, AND ILLEGAL BEHAVIOUR. I was shocked, and now I think he doesn't deserve any respect.

You are not the God. And you should live with it.
If you redirect a gallery submitted to me (which means you had a good gallery first that was reviewed and deliberately changed after it was posted) you didn't have ANY respect for me in the first place.

And I don't attack someone on the first redirect. Unless... you redirected to that kiddy porn toplist which is on your domain or to that rape site of yours. I explained it more than once on this board: an attack is always a last resort. When all else fails...


One piece of advice, or at least a request, do yourself and me a favor and stop submitting to my site. That will be the end of this whole problem. Me getting wound up over this is a direct result of you cheating. You are the cause of these problems. Obay rules or don't submit. Simple as that...

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Old 10-26-2002, 03:21 AM   #354
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Here's some more submissions that just came in from Mr. Innocent Russian Cheater:

http://www.groooveslut.com/amat_1/re...eur_girl_.html
http://www.thebestxxxporno.com/tsgal06/tsgal.html
http://www.wetpornoteens.com/gal5/amat.htm
http://drunk-babes.com/rp/10-01/gallery.htm
http://www.porn-o-mania.net/tgp63/thehun.html
http://fakeall.net/14/teen.html

You've been warned what would happen Mr. Cheater. Stop submitting to my site... Easy solution, isn't it? STOP SUBMITTING!
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Old 10-26-2002, 03:41 AM   #355
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Here's some more submissions that just came in from Mr. Innocent Russian Cheater:

http://www.groooveslut.com/amat_1/re...eur_girl_.html
http://www.thebestxxxporno.com/tsgal06/tsgal.html
http://www.wetpornoteens.com/gal5/amat.htm
http://drunk-babes.com/rp/10-01/gallery.htm
http://www.porn-o-mania.net/tgp63/thehun.html
http://fakeall.net/14/teen.html

You've been warned what would happen Mr. Cheater. Stop submitting to my site... Easy solution, isn't it? STOP SUBMITTING!
Sounds kind of pathetic
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Old 10-26-2002, 03:43 AM   #356
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Hun,Why dont you contact the sponsor on his legitimate galleries that he submits to you. Threaten to ban them and I'll bet they drop him.

If you fuck up his pocketbook then you have truly fucked him up.
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Old 10-26-2002, 04:18 AM   #357
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Years ago when TGPs appeared a lot of big guys, running paysites, ran around crying to shut down TGPs because OBVIOUSLY they hurt their sales a lot.
It might come as a surprise to you, but without sponsors my site wouldn't be alife today... No link-site can survive without sponsors. Also, link-sites were there earlier than sponsors... Ask anybody who has been in this business longer than 5 years...
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And they couldnt do a shit, because although unethical (and it was unethical because when one person makes his money out of loss of others in the same industry that is called unethical) it was basicly legal. Hun runs www.thehun.net and has every right to do anything he wants if it is legal there right?

Now these new TGP cheaters are not doing anything new. It's just the same thing many years later and QUITE NATURAL I might add. Whatever they do - they do it on THEIR sites. Not on Hun's.
False... they submit to MY SITE... MY SITE, My rules. You can do anything on the Internet you want, I would never initiate action like I did to drawnsex, but if you submit me to me and ask me to list your stuff you stick to some very basic rules I set.
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It might be unethical to Hun and TGP runners but essentially it's just totally the same what Hun and guys like him did to the adult industy years ago.
Absolute BS... Link-sites never cheated on sponsors. How can they? With blind links maybe, but I never had those on my site. This is something completely different
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If You dont understand it - You're stupid. Ask anyone who's in this biz longer than 3 years.
Ask about sales BEFORE TGPs.
Sales before TGPs... hm... there were only people running their own paysites and a few amateur who put their pictures on the web. I think sales were good. But when portals started to appear that linked to previews and stuff sales went up. So the sites started to buy banner ads on my site. That's how it was 8 years ago... If you don't understand it... well... no problem. Ask anyone who's in this biz longer than 5 years... Ask PK, she was around before I was...
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The ONLY thing Hun can do - check more Your galleries. Do it live, not with a program. And it's possible, otherwise You wouldnt be posting those galleries here all the time. And please dont say that it's hard. Hard is just a definition of cost in business.
I do that. With robots AND live.
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Hun hires 20 guys to do it every minute and Hun is saved ,isnt it right? Nope, because Hun doesnt WANT to pay to 20 guys. He doesnt want to loose money and he goes illegal - DDOSing and IMG sourcing. Well why the fuck? Years ago I am SURE no one in the adult industry liked to loose money because of TGPs.
But they were told - NET evolves. Live with it or get out. Now Hun...net evolves, live with it or get out.
What conclusions. Do you KNOW how much money I spend? No! Ofcourse not. So please do not draw conclusions out of assumptions you can not verify at all. I spend a lot of money fighting cheaters. Now Incognito... the net evolved for the past 8 years and it will continue to do so... but so far I'm still in the saddle and keeping up...
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Old 10-26-2002, 04:29 AM   #358
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Attention GFY!

This is really COOL!

Look whom some of You support.

Go to www.thehun.net
Look between October 26th listings and 25th listings. There You see 2 PAYED banners. Click on the second one, which says TEEN DEEPTHROAT MOVIES.

You get forwarded here:
http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/h/
http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/h/blowjob.htm

Here are some of ad wordings from there:

"When she meets him on the stairs he wants to get his hard cock inside her cute teen mouth!! he forces her to Gag on his huge dick!! She can´t handle his large cock, but finally she manages to Deepthroat it down to the root!!! When he cums she is told to eat his cum!! "

"Forced to "enjoy" a 12 Inch monster cock!!Like to see small tight pussies getting pumped by huge Black males? In this clip, the little teen girl, gets a 12" moster cock rammed up her innocent pussy!! And it´s being forced down her tiny throat!! "

"Forced to suck and swallow cum in the forest!!!Again a totally insane clip, it´s not so long, but its very very good, this fucking slut, is getting forced to take the gigantic cumslut from the 2 maniac guys in the forest, no one gives a fuck about her!! Just the way we like it.. Rough all the way!!! "

"The young teen is deepthroating her babysitters big cock!!The little girl is left with her brothers friend, he is told to babysit her, but he don´t want to be alone with this energetic girl.. BUT then she shows him a huge dildo, that she took from her mothers room!!! Then the babysitter gets horny, and force the little slut to swallow his big cock!! HOLY SHIT.. She sucks and sucks, until he wants to ram her tight teen ass... he fucks her ass very deep!! This movie is a MUST SEE!!!"

"Violent Teen Blowjob Movies
Very hardcore and very violent, only movies with extreme deepthroat blowjobs, and cum eating, they almost puke!!!..."

"Brutal Teen Anal Movies
They asses are not ready for cocks, but nobody cares!! Huge cocks are tricked up their virgin asses, their gaping ass holes can´t take it all...Oh My GOD!!"

And so on and so on...


Also contains unbeleivable photo material!
Pics like this:
http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/h/violent/2/5.jpg
http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/h/violent/2/6.jpg
and so on...hundreds of them actually.

I mentioned that serie with a special attention because these serie I think has it's rightfull place almost on EVERY rape fantasy paysite.


Now. This is taken from payed ads all over THE HUN right now and it is a clear rape fantasy.

Mr. Hun? You started all this crap saying that russian cheaters redirect their traffic on ...oh GOSH...rape fantasy!! Which You are as a very morale man truly find unacceptable.
All above is taken from a payed ad on your site. Care for an explanation?
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Old 10-26-2002, 04:49 AM   #359
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What conclusions. Do you KNOW how much money I spend? No! Ofcourse not. So please do not draw conclusions out of assumptions you can not verify at all. I spend a lot of money fighting cheaters. Now Incognito... the net evolved for the past 8 years and it will continue to do so... but so far I'm still in the saddle and keeping up...
Hun , honestly , You speak too much and that's the only thing You're good at.

And most people fall into it. Into the charm of words.

But the reality is - TGP's hurt sales great. Your TGP right now has payed ads of rape fantasy on one hand and You say that You are against rape fantasy at the same time. You image sourced the guy who redirected HIS OWN traffic, not yours.

As I said, accept Your problems and my advice is - dont go too far in Your rage till You clean out Your own shit, You might get burned Yourself.
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Old 10-26-2002, 04:51 AM   #360
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Incognito......

I still am not sure that I know what is going on, but I cant believe you seem so happy to have found some rape content on the huns site!!

You have big smilies all over your post.........

I am sure that a massive TGP like this can live without that sort of crap....

You, wallowing in the glory of discovering it are the worst kind of hypocryt I know......
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Incognito......

I still am not sure that I know what is going on, but I cant believe you seem so happy to have found some rape content on the huns site!!

You have big smilies all over your post.........

I am sure that a massive TGP like this can live without that sort of crap....

You, wallowing in the glory of discovering it are the worst kind of hypocryt I know......
Sure. You know it was damn hard to find it by the way. Thehun.net has like 6 or so payed spot banners? One of them goes straight to rape fantasy. Shit man. What a job!

By the way, I am not hyporcryt, watch Your mouth please. I dont run around crying "OH, RUSSIAN CHEATER REDIRECTS TRAFFIC TO RAPE" having same rape with another title on my site at the same time.
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Old 10-26-2002, 05:03 AM   #362
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I'm not doing anything illegal by redirecting traffic, even if you don't like this. And my friends who do the same (a lot of friends, btw) also do not do anything illegal. So, I can tell you fuck off and rest in peace. :D

I have plain position - free porn is a huge problem for this business. And I fight against free porn, and make money from it. And have fun.

You may keep giving out free porn, that's your choice, but you need to know that there are A LOT of guys, who are going to put some sticks in your weels...

Cya.
I can't believe what I'm reading??

Well, I'm sure it's not illegal but how can you say it's okay to redirect traffic?

What you say TGPs did to paysites is NOT the same as what you're doing. DID TGPs HAVE LINKS FROM PAYSITES REDIRECTING THE TRAFFIC? NO!!!!!

And, as gallery builders we are not just giving out free porn. We are trying to sell paysite passes, making the surfer pay to see porn!
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Oh Damian, I got You!
You said You are not sure!


Well look, it's easy. PAID SPOT is a banner on thehun.net which is listed because someone PAYED Hun whatever it costs. Hun reviews those ads and approves before they are posted.

/h in that URL means , I beleive, that page was specifically created for Hun.

Hope You are sure now.
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those pics look like that fishhooking stuff i read about in another thread here
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good job tgpkiller,,btw sextracker dont make u the biggest tgp
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those pics look like that fishhooking stuff i read about in another thread here
dunno...just same rape fantasy as any other rape fantasy out there really. Even more violent than usual though.

I mention those two pics specifically because the set those pictures are from is present on almost all rape fantasy paysites out there. Like Zmaster pics in mainstream porn that set is also almost a history only in rape fantasy.
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Hmmm...a Russian without even the balls to let it be known who he is (or just an asshole pretending to be Russian) jumping into a thread to defend a Russian cheater that promotes CP and rape shit and the expecting anyone to take anything he says seriously.



That's priceless.
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Oh Damian, I got You!
You said You are not sure!


Well look, it's easy. PAID SPOT is a banner on thehun.net which is listed because someone PAYED Hun whatever it costs. Hun reviews those ads and approves before they are posted.

/h in that URL means , I beleive, that page was specifically created for Hun.

Hope You are sure now.
You seem to be saying the same thing over and over again, "Everybody else is doing it so why shouldnt I?"

Watch my lips....... it is wrong!!
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Old 10-26-2002, 05:20 AM   #369
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Hun,

thank you for your responses. this is the most entertaining thread in weeks.



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Hmmm...a Russian without even the balls to let it be known who he is (or just an asshole pretending to be Russian) jumping into a thread to defend a Russian cheater that promotes CP and rape shit and the expecting anyone to take anything he says seriously.



That's priceless.
Well You see. It is not really important who says. Important is WHAT is said.
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Old 10-26-2002, 05:28 AM   #371
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You seem to be saying the same thing over and over again, "Everybody else is doing it so why shouldnt I?"

Watch my lips....... it is wrong!!
Oh I seem to be saying THAT?
Damn, must be my english.
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Well You see. It is not really important who says. Important is WHAT is said.
Which in your case seems to be pure crap spouted by a cheating Russian. WTF though I've made my point and am lost as to why Patrick's wasting his breath replying to posts that are so obviously crap to anybody with even a tiny bit of intelligence.

I'll leave you to carry on ranting. Just struck me as funny you expect anyone to take anything you say seriously is all.
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I wouldn't fuck too much with Russians they may have mafia connections. I know because I live right next to Russia

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Old 10-26-2002, 05:32 AM   #374
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Old 10-26-2002, 05:44 AM   #376
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Which in your case seems to be pure crap spouted by a cheating Russian. WTF though I've made my point and am lost as to why Patrick's wasting his breath replying to posts that are so obviously crap to anybody with even a tiny bit of intelligence.

I'll leave you to carry on ranting. Just struck me as funny you expect anyone to take anything you say seriously is all.
Eh Tipsy? I might also just say fuck You damn amercian bitch.
But first of all I live in a clear understanding that first of all not all americans are bitches and what's more important this case is about a VIKING non USA bitch , but as I said I only might so I wont say this.

I'll just humbly ask, what are Your arguments to back up calling my words crap?

Oh. By the way, I just checked several times www.thehun.net and guess fucking what? NO MORE http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/h/

Damn I wonder where did it go?
I though Hun was asleep or something since he doesnt answer being so active here minutes ago my first post about rape , well he is an important man and has every right to leave us simple folk to wait till he comes back and respond. But guess what? The man was occupied! Takes time to remove a banner.
Good move. Smart.

So You see Tipsy, life really is a difficult thing. It's important to remain civilized and adress Your partners in discussion in an appropriate polite manner and with respect trying to refrain from simply swear words and racist remarks.

P.S. Fuck You bitch. Changed my mind, sorry.
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... hun, thanks for the entertainment ..., and get some beers in tonight !!
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Old 10-26-2002, 06:03 AM   #378
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Damn what a moron.
No wonder Russia is such a messed up country.
Unbelievable that someone thinks it's okay to cheat because he listed you.
Retard.

I'm afraid this guy is in deep shit because he redirects to GFY.
You can't say "I'm innocent".
You are responsible for the traffic that you are re-directing and NOT thehun.
This guy is in Russia which will make it some harder but it's for sure not impossible to sue his ass bigtime.

Plus I would inform his host and his sponsor about this asshole.

Once again why don't they disconnect the biggest cheating country from the net?

First feed your people so they are not hungry anymore and then allow them to have access to the internet.
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Damn what a moron.
No wonder Russia is such a messed up country.
Unbelievable that someone thinks it's okay to cheat because he listed you.
Retard.

I'm afraid this guy is in deep shit because he redirects to GFY.
You can't say "I'm innocent".
You are responsible for the traffic that you are re-directing and NOT thehun.
This guy is in Russia which will make it some harder but it's for sure not impossible to sue his ass bigtime.

Plus I would inform his host and his sponsor about this asshole.

Once again why don't they disconnect the biggest cheating country from the net?

First feed your people so they are not hungry anymore and then allow them to have access to the internet.
Way too much ignorance and arrogance in this post
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Old 10-26-2002, 06:17 AM   #381
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Way too much ignorance and arrogance in this post
That's your oppinion.

You seem to choose the side of the weak all the time so I don't really care what you think.
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Old 10-26-2002, 06:25 AM   #382
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Icognito... I expected you were smarter... First of all, this thing started 'cause drawsex redirected to rape. Biggest problem of this being the redirecting, not the rape... So you make yourself look pretty stupid jumping up and down like a little kid 'cause of what you found out.

Secondly, my banner-prices are well known. Do you think I sell 6 banners for 1000$ each a month? That would be 6000$ a month, which ain't even enough to get my server going... I'm surprised you didn't realise yourself the banners were in rotation. So it's not 'gone mysteriously', it's just rotated out. It'll be back if you hit 'reload' often enough.

Rape is not illegal, but like I mentioned in some other posts I made: I don't allow rape. The banner in question was reported a while back to the company running my ads. So the webmaster received a warning (we don't just disable a banner by a paying customer). Most likely he'll be written again and most likely will get his banner disabled 'cause I don't want to have anything to do with advertising rape sites. Even if it's rape fantasy. Actually, just an insight that might give an idea with how strickt I want to be to ensure my visitors don't get afraid to click banners, here's the full report I sent to the ad agency... site URLs and names are taken out for obvious reasons:

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I checked the banner-files. The following banners go against our rules (misleading, looking too much like something else than a banner or linking to consoles). Please get the webmasters to change ASAP.

Horizontal:

...'s links to http://..., this page forwards people straight to http://.... Most likely they log the traffic that way, but clicking 'back' goes to the first page wich in turn redirects to htt://... again... so they're entrapping our visitors. I hardcodede the second link in their code

...'s banner has an loop of exit consoles

... has a banner linking to http://.... http://... is blacklisted from the Yellow Pages. They link straight to a very expensive dialer. This banner should be disabled right away. I get the same dialer popping up at least 3 times even though I clicked 'no' and I see popups all over. This should not be on the Yellow Pages. Please disable this one right away

... links to an entrapping page. Once people click the banner and click 'back' they'll get 2 exit consoles, but they don't go back to the Yellow Pages. Please ask him to remove the entrapment from that page. People won't click any banners anymore if people can't even go back to where they came from when they click an ad. Entrapment is not allowed...

... links to a page that contains rape. Check http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/sample_blowjob.htm and the bottom of http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/blowjob.htm, both taken from his page... We don't link to rape... or at least we don't want to...

Vertical:

... looks a bit too much like thumbs...

...'s banner looks a bit too much like thumbs. I get an error after his second exit console, so please ask him to take off that...

... has exit consoles that resize 'emselves to full screen and everything. Please ask him to change that. One console, and it shouldn't maximize (on my screen the page looks pretty rediculous anyway on full screen... )

The wording on ...'s banner should change. "100% free, no payments, no fees, no charges, no nothing, 100% free". Nothing about previews... I think the wording is misleading... After closing the page I got two maximizing consoles, which also is not allowed

... also has a vertical banner. This links to the same as his horizontal, which is the rape again...


... (familiar name, this guy has been warned a couple of times before) has a loop of exit-consoles on his page. I stopped counting after 6 consoles... Please disable his banner right away. He's been warned before, might be time to let him know we'd like to be taken seriously.
So, there you have it... internal note. I said on the GFY I didn't link to rape-sites, and I don't want to, but there's a certain care to be taken when dealing with paying customers. They can't get away with anything they want and the rape banner will indeed be disabled (actually it's a regular banner linking to 4 topics, one of which is rape). Congratulations you proved everybody here what sorry fellow you are that you go checking a page thoroughly to find every single mistake on there. Sorry to say that what you found had nothing to do with this entire topic though...
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Old 10-26-2002, 06:32 AM   #383
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And I'm NOT redirecting whole traffic to rape sites. Less than 10% percents. Other traffic...
Blah blah blah. You usually treat women like that?

Loser.
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Old 10-26-2002, 06:43 AM   #384
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Old 10-26-2002, 06:44 AM   #385
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parney is a women dumbass. and a VERY VERY nice person.
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Old 10-26-2002, 06:50 AM   #386
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Of course I was. I dont IMG source people crying out loud on GFY about rape having it myself on my own pages.

Reminds me of "some animals who are more equal than others", hope You at least know what I'm referring to.

Anyway, my guess is that matter is resolved. I think by now TGPkiller should send an internal note to his programmers that their software engine being used for honest galleries has definite bugs which causes a traffic redirection. The bug should be corrected as soon as possible.

He might even show us that note.


Seriously man, I dont understand You.

You come crying around that someone cheats You. Well You cheated a shit load of people out of their money because of Your TGP and an example You've shown. That's not cheating of course in the exact meaning of the word. Well it's DEMPING as we call this unlawfull and unethical practices in business in Russia and my guess You call it same word in english, if not correct me please, You're offering for free something people used to pay for before. In real business , in Moscow for example or I beleive in NY also, You'd probably have either a huge lawsuit leaving You broke forever or a bullet in Your brain as a more easy solution.

Then You cry that the guy who cheated You SPECIFICALLY redirected Your traffic to rape, and You point out to public moral issues here. You also portait Yourself all the time as a saint person, Jesus was a sinner in comparison.

And guess what, You got same rape on Your own pages Yourself.

I spent 3 minutes on Your TGP to find what I found. Know why I didnt need more? I feel an asshole straight away and 3 minutes is always enough for any asshole.

Fuck off.
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Old 10-26-2002, 06:54 AM   #387
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Drama queens,

Could you girls stop making your little internal problems "our" problems.

GFY is slow and its taking me more time to read it and therefor costing me money. If you don't stop these pathetic attacks I will sue you guys for damage.

Have a good day.
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Old 10-26-2002, 07:05 AM   #388
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Could you please quick bending and twisting facts to your own liking. Makes it look like you can't win a discussion with the facts straight:

1 - drawsex redirected traffic, that was what started this. Don't matter where is redirected to, it was redirected
2 - I didn't come here 'crying' about someone cheating, I came here to explained what happened to GFY
3 - I'm not acting like I'm flawless, I don't allow rape on my site. Not because it's illegal (in fact, it isn't), but because I don't want it. I reported the banner you're talking about and it will be taken care of.
4 - I don't cheat people out of their money.
5 - There are several ways of making money. I have mine, you have yours. I don't screw you and I expect you not to screw me either. Your way might not work as well 'cause of my way. I call that life. You sound like someone that's pissed off 'cause nobody wants to buy the tap-water he's selling for 10 dollars a cup... Good thing about a free market. Offer it to cheap: you go broke, offer it too expensive: you loose customers.
6 - A market is not created by the products offered on it, but the products offered are controlled by the demand for such a product. Don't wine about not making enough money 'cause you lack the business sense to see that.

I'm done discussing with you 'till you can get the above 6 facts straight. They're not opinions, they're facts.

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Old 10-26-2002, 07:14 AM   #389
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That's your oppinion.

You seem to choose the side of the weak all the time so I don't really care what you think.
I hear you. I'm not really taking sides here. I think Hun is doing a good job overall, also giving equal chances to webmasters, but img src'ing should not be the way simply because it causes unexcepted harm for 3rd parties including the cheater's ISP and other people hosted with that ISP. My only point here

Secondly, starting a nation vs nation conflict seems a bit irrevelant here IMO. Of course it's an easy solution for some people. Osama does this -> blame all muslims. Russian webmaster cheats -> blame the whole fucking country

Peace
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I hear you. I'm not really taking sides here. I think Hun is doing a good job overall, also giving equal chances to webmasters, but img src'ing should not be the way simply because it causes unexcepted harm for 3rd parties including the cheater's ISP and other people hosted with that ISP. My only point here

Secondly, starting a nation vs nation conflict seems a bit irrevelant here IMO. Of course it's an easy solution for some people. Osama does this -> blame all muslims. Russian webmaster cheats -> blame the whole fucking country

Peace
I don't like Russians and I don't like Muslims.
I don't hate em all..... I just don't like them.

And really you don't have to worry because it takes a shitload more traffic to take down an ISP.
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Old 10-26-2002, 07:31 AM   #391
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the never ending thread

PK, i was serious earlier,but I would have to deal with Sleazydream though which is not the easiest thing. hehe
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Old 10-26-2002, 07:33 AM   #392
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The Hun,

Here is an idea:

Do you want your site constantly patroled for cheaters by hundreds of webmasters?

Offer a reward to the first webmaster that notifies you of someone cheating you.

Maybe the reward could be having the link spot of the cheater they busted.

This would work for the archives as well.

I would be willing to bet there would be a few hundred webmasters constantly checking your pages and it would not cost you 1 red cent and would really put a CLAMP on cheaters!

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Old 10-26-2002, 07:35 AM   #393
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Old 10-26-2002, 07:43 AM   #394
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now lets post our favorite lyrics to make the thread 20pages


If I chose to ride, thuggin' til the day I die
(They don't give a fuck about us)
While I'm kickin rhymes, getting to their children's minds
(now they give a fuck about us)

They wanna see us die, they kill us every time we try
(They don't give a fuck about us)
So while I'm getting high, I'm watchin as the world goes by,
(cuz they give a fuck about us)
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now lets post our favorite lyrics to make the thread 20pages
Keep on rockin' in the free world

Nuff said
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Old 10-26-2002, 08:04 AM   #396
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Old 10-26-2002, 08:22 AM   #397
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Lensman check out this URL thehun posted, 1 of the Russian Cheaters... Don't you own InternetEraser.

http://fakeall.net/14/teen.html

http://www.interneteraser.com/enter.html?ID=4267296

This Russian cheater and a few people that have taken his side, to me defies all fucking logic. This is a business, you
don't like the rules, DON't DO BUSINESS WITH THE PERSON OR PERSON's MAKING THE RULES. You have NO CASE I REPEAT NONE, take your business else were if you DO NOT like the rules. It does not make one (1) bit of Diff. what the person is doing with his/her business, you don't like it don't do business with them
(SIMPLE). But I can see that this just 2 fucking simple for some you god dam Pin Heads. It make's NO Diff. what thehun put's on his page (NONE). You don't like what he put's on his page DON't DO BUSINESS WITH HIM (SIMPLE). Think he is breaking some law turn his White Ass in (SIMPLE). Let me tell you something the Russian WILL get what he has coming.... and it will be in the pocket book... his money... am sure he's in for a wake up call. Another thing if he has all this traffic wahy not do what 99.9% of the people do... Make your money the honest way don't break the rules... I know the answer, because a CROOK just can not help it, when he went in business this was and still is his business model. A crook does not have a clue how to be honest. I don't care if he could make 10 times the money by being honest he'll NEVER do it, *he can't*.
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btw, guys, let me add here some more fun...

current Hun's attack and redirection to GFY has nothing to do with drawnsex.com ... that's somebody else was hotlinked by Hun and was crushing GFY :D

yes, we were redirecting Hun's hotlink on GFY once, to draw attention on his dumb actions, but once was enough for us, we showed what we wanted... we are not terrorists to do this again and again

Mr Hun has the problem - he probably thinks that all of the tgp redirects are coming from the drawnsex.com this is not truth,
A LOT of people fight with free porn and redirect tgp traffic...

If someone liked our move with redirecting Hun's hotlink on GFY -
I can't do anything with it... it's up to Hun fixing this situation, not me he is the guy who looks like the terrorist, and he should think about this...

So, check your logs better next time Hun... don't blame drawnsex in all of your problems and all GFY attacks :D


2Hun: your throwing fingers, angry words, threats, crying and other stuff very very poor... you are not the God, and you shouldn't think that you are the only one here who can deal with force, kill servers, take down GFY (heh), etc... stay correct, polite, or better just GFY.
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You can?t be Mr Nice guy in this business, there?s far too many back stabbing desperate people around. So its caused a little disruption, well worth it if a CP peddling scum bag gets knocked down a few steps.

I don?t particularly like the Huns arrogant attitude at times but anyone who knows this business and how to survive will know that kicking ass is often the only action some people respond to. One pop up hell gallery in a TGP can do some real damage. How many times have you wiped a site off your bookmarks because of excessive browser crashing junk. You can only bite a web newbie once and they are on the decline.

And here?s a message to all you Russians that cheat then argue with illogical statements born out of lawless depravation.
You can?t win ! The opposition is far too strong and supported by an infrastructure built while you guys were scratching for a meal under commi rule.
You either play the western game or crawl back into your holes, your choice.

As for TGP?s lowering pay site sales. True but then what else did you expect from an unregulated globally open market place. We would all like a perfect platform but it just isn?t going to happen and free porn won?t go away no matter how much you scream shout and attack those pushing it.
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And cannot breathe the open air
Whisper things into my brain
Assuring me that I'm insane
They think our heads are in their hands
But violent use brings violent plans
Keep him tied, It makes him well
He's getting better, Can't you tell?
No more can they keep us in
Listen, Damn it, We will win
They see it right, They see it well
But they think this saves us from our hell
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