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Old 07-17-2014, 12:05 PM   #151
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ABC news live feed online is saying "shot down by Russian missile".

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Old 07-17-2014, 12:05 PM   #152
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Your argument is completely invalid - Ukraine has the same exact missiles C300 and C400
Not in that area.
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:08 PM   #153
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ABC news live feed online is saying "shot down by Russian missile".
Not Russian, but Soviet. BUK is a Soviet weapon which is being used by Russia, Ukraine (both regular army and separatists) and other countries.
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Not in that area.
You are being ridiculous. You have no idea what missiles Ukraine has in that area. Or Russia for that matter.
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Not Russian, but Soviet. BUK is a Soviet weapon which is being used by Russia, Ukraine (both regular army and separatists) and other countries.
It says Russian. It doesn't say Soviet.
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i think it's in fact a missile from an ancient stockpile of the russian empire of nicolai 2
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We don't know Russians are involved yet...
Negro, please.

Why would Ukrainians shoot at a passenger plane? Especially when they've never used AA weapons before. They didn't even shoot back at Russians in Krimea.

Drunk russian terrorists who mistook it for a Ukrainian cargo plane and shot it down sounds more plausible. Just hours before this happened they had been bragging that they shot down an Ukrainian AF plane with a BUK AA missile.
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who the fuck flies over a war zone? why not route the plane around to avoid this war area? crazy...
This is a prime question and it must be directed to the Ukrainian government
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It says Russian. It doesn't say Soviet.
Its says bullshit and you just ate it. That says a lot.
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:24 PM   #160
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Why would Ukrainians shoot at a passenger plane?
Really, WHY, ah?

Now some conspiracy theories (use Google translate): http://top.rbc.ru/politics/17/07/2014/937293.shtml

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Really, WHY, ah?

Now some conspiracy theories (use Google translate): http://top.rbc.ru/politics/17/07/2014/937293.shtml

Back then it was military exercises. Plane just happened to be there when missiles were being tested. Today is different, they are on a brink of major war and being extra careful.
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this is the last fucking straw

its time NATO blows these russian parasites back into the fucking stone age
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Not Russian, but Soviet. BUK is a Soviet weapon which is being used by Russia, Ukraine (both regular army and separatists) and other countries.
Keep digging your hole..
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This is a prime question and it must be directed to the Ukrainian government
The air space was officially closed from 0 to 7000m.

The plane was flying at 10000m, therefore outside of a locked down air space.
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Keep digging your hole..
And that's all you can say, clown?
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at the end i hope we all agree it was ufo ...
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The air space was officially closed from 0 to 7000m.

The plane was flying at 10000m, therefore outside of a locked down air space.
It must be just closed. Not "from" or whatever. There is a war zone. No civilian planes must be allowed to pass it.
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It's freaking obvious that this conflict would have been over months ago, had Russians not been stirring shit by supplying terrorist with money, weapons and specialists.
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Reminder that the last time a commercial plane was shot down killing 290 civilians was done by americans "by mistake" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
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Today is different, they are on a brink of major war and being extra careful.
A monkey with a grenade can not be careful (I'm referring to both Ukrainian army and their separatists)
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Malaysia Airlines (MH) #17 ✈ 15-Jul-2014


Malaysia Airlines (MH) #17 ✈ 17-Jul-2014 (today)


It makes no sense. Why Ukrianian traffic control changed today's flight route

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Malaysia Airlines (MH) #17 ✈ 17-Jul-2014 (today)


It makes no sense.
i have successfully avoided looking at this for 2 hourssssss

since you have big fucking balls.. you able to find out how many commerical jets get escorts

or, if the 15th flight had an escort
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Damn there are a lot of fucking experts on GFY considering the plane only went down a few hours ago. No body knows exactly what happened yet.
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It's freaking obvious that this conflict would have been over months ago, had Russians not been stirring shit by supplying terrorist with money, weapons and specialists.
It's freaking obvious that this conflict would not even start if USA minded its own business... it's ALWAYS somebody else fault but NEVER state's
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It's freaking obvious that this conflict would have been over months ago, had Russians not been stirring shit by supplying terrorist with money, weapons and specialists.
You mean

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It's freaking obvious that this conflict would have been over months ago, had ukranian army does not mass murder unarmed ethnic russian civilians in eastern ukraine.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2d4_1405620818
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a87_1405483151
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Now my personal thoughts. I think the plane was hit by mistake by the Ukrainian separatists with the BUK SAM which they've got from the Ukrainian army (those just left the base without a fight). If this will be confirmed (the investigation will tell), it won't take a long before Russian military will take care of those motherfuckers...

That's just my version. Let's wait and see if I was right or not. But I 100% sure the plane wasn't hit from the Russian territory (there are many reasons to think so).
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Damn there are a lot of fucking experts on GFY considering the plane only went down a few hours ago. No body knows exactly what happened yet.
That's just a Fucking Around & Program Discussion, so...
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and u are right about governments being evil etc., but this time it would be 180 % different from what u say: it can be used as excuse by Ukrainian government to totally Nuke eastern Ukraine and so called "terrorists"
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Certainly I take it from all the evil crap that the US government has done, but you should know as well as I do that all governments are capable of this kind of thing.

The reason why I think that this would work better as an excuse to invade Ukraine is that it would look like it was done in the interests of international security, and therefore play better internationally. Putin needs to answer the hard nationalists in Russia by looking as strong as possible, while at the same not incurring the economic wrath of the West... Which Russia cannot afford.
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Damn there are a lot of fucking experts on GFY considering the plane only went down a few hours ago. No body knows exactly what happened yet.
Umm the Rebel commander claimed they shot down a military transport on social media, and gave the exact location. He then deleted it, soon as they found out it was a civilian aircraft.

The smoking gun was the rebel commander him self boasting about it on Russia's face book. There is no reason to speculate at this time as they told everyone in the world they shot it down.
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Negro, please.

Why would Ukrainians shoot at a passenger plane? Especially when they've never used AA weapons before. They didn't even shoot back at Russians in Krimea.

Drunk russian terrorists who mistook it for a Ukrainian cargo plane and shot it down sounds more plausible. Just hours before this happened they had been bragging that they shot down an Ukrainian AF plane with a BUK AA missile.
Got a news link with them bragging?
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like what ? They will get spanked ? They are totally useful for Putin, so why do anything with them ?
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And that's all you can say, clown?
Have you ever noticed the dumb people are the ones who call other people names on message boards?
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Got a news link with them bragging?
It was posted in the other topic..

http://mashable.com/2014/07/17/malay...F2aW5jYWN3dyJ9

The rebel cmdr deleted the actual comment from the VK site, but there are SS's posted as well.

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It makes no sense. Why Ukrianian traffic control changed today's flight route
So you are saying that planes must take the same course every day and can never change?

Maybe weather?
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like what ? They will get spanked ? They are totally useful for Putin, so why do anything with them ?
Let's see ;)
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It was posted in the other topic..

http://mashable.com/2014/07/17/malay...F2aW5jYWN3dyJ9

The rebel cmdr deleted the actual comment from the VK site, but there are SS's posted as well.
Problem solved. Assuming this was true, we now know what happened.

Now the question is where did the weapons come from, who trained them, and then who supplied them?
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Have your parents told that you are a special one? Just curious...
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Now the question is where did the weapons come from, who trained them, and then who supplied them?
Are you really that special??? Should I explain you how to use Google Translate to read this: http://rusvesna.su/news/1404041521 ???
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My parents have been dead for some time now. So no.
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P.S. As about the training. In Russia and on the Ukraine, all males MUST to serve in the army and to be trained to use various weapons (assault riffles, tanks, SAM's, jet fighters, ICBM etc) depending on their specialization. So I don't see any problem to find some good BUK's operators in any post USSR-country.
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Sorry for that.
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Are you really that special??? Should I explain you how to use Google Translate to read this: http://rusvesna.su/news/1404041521 ???
And? Who trained them on how to fire an advanced missile system?
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My support goes out to the family and friends left behind
71 Dutch people where on the plane, and it feels like we lost part of our country

CyberSEO, we know how hard you push this to a argument where you can point fingers, but truth is, you know nothing, your a board tool, keep it with that and shut up
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Have your parents told that you are a special one? Just curious...
I didn't call you name. I didn't call you a "retard". I said you were retarded.

There is a difference.
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Old 07-17-2014, 01:18 PM   #198
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CyberSEO, we know how hard you push this to a argument where you can point fingers, but truth is, you know nothing, your a board tool, keep it with that and shut up
Who are "we"?
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Old 07-17-2014, 01:24 PM   #199
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And? Who trained them on how to fire an advanced missile system?
Hmm... I'm really frustrated now... It's like if you ask who trained me when I was serving in the army. Should I call the names of the officers or what? Sorry but I didn't get your question. We ALL get trained here. Right from the school and then in the army. It's a mandatory thing in both Russia and the Ukraine. I'm still a Russian army Lt., BTW.
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Old 07-17-2014, 01:31 PM   #200
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I wonder how many WP users wish that some plug in author/salesman would spend time fixing their software vulnerabilities instead of posting Pro-Russian Rhetoric on GFY.
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