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Old 05-20-2003, 07:42 PM   #1
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The Lazy Mans Guide to Working Out

You grow when you sleep lol

Only work out 1 hour and only every other day, rest the whole weekend.

What else lol
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just remember these numbers, you will be buff (without steroids)

5 - days a week

1 to 2 - bodyparts worked per day

6 to 8 - sets per bodypart

4 to 6 - reps per set

3 - minutes between sets

1.5 - grams of protein per pound of bodyweight to intake daily

this program is called max-ot and it WILL get you HUGE and STRONG... I swear by it

here is everyhitn you need to know about it

http://free-st.hinet.hr/mitoz/MAX-OT.pdf

p.s. - this program is not intended for steroid users, it works best naturally... it is not enough volume for an anabolic steroid user

p.p.s. - also order all supplements from dpsnutrition.com , paying GNC prices is retarted compared to these
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Old 05-20-2003, 07:52 PM   #3
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just remember these numbers, you will be buff (without steroids)

5 - days a week

1 to 2 - bodyparts worked per day

6 to 8 - sets per bodypart

4 to 6 - reps per set

3 - minutes between sets

1.5 - grams of protein per pound of bodyweight to intake daily

this program is called max-ot and it WILL get you HUGE and STRONG... I swear by it

here is everyhitn you need to know about it

http://free-st.hinet.hr/mitoz/MAX-OT.pdf

p.s. - this program is not intended for steroid users, it works best naturally... it is not enough volume for an anabolic steroid user
Have you seen any results?
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without steriods you are fucked, and with that you need serious protien intake + serious working out
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Have you seen any results?
well, I've gained around 35 lbs muscle over 16 months on it... 1 1/2 inches on my biceps, and all of my lifts have gone up a good 35 to 50%

but, the most important thing is the bitches... every chick (and dude for that matter) who hasn't seen me in like 6 months mentions how big (or huge, built, swoll, etc.) I got since last time they seen me. I have a gf and its hilarious how jealous she gets cuz chicks come up and do it right in front of her at the club
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without steriods you are fucked, and with that you need serious protien intake + serious working out
www.bodybuilding.com

there is a forum there and hundreds of natural bodybuilders who see insane results on this program
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www.bodybuilding.com

there is a forum there and hundreds of natural bodybuilders who see insane results on this program

GET REAL WAKE UP!
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Lets see some before and after pics. And Im not saying that to be an ass. I love before and after pics.

1.5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight is hard, esp if you are 200+ lbs. usually more protein means more calories. And if you are not doing a bunch of cardio its hard to keep the the pudge from building. and cardio is detrimental to mass building.
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GET REAL WAKE UP!

What are you saying EB?

Building up without roids is not so possible?
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What are you saying EB?

Building up without roids is not so possible?
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What are you saying EB?

Building up without roids is not so possible?
Sure it is but regardless if you drint the entire GNC every day it will take at least 3-5 years.

You wanna talk about message boards:

Here is one with over 40,000 users who all thought you can build up without roids, they now know different.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum...p?s=&forumid=2
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You grow when you sleep lol

Only work out 1 hour and only every other day, rest the whole weekend.

What else lol
i work out two hours a week. actually every 8 days. but i also have a workout schedule thats every 2 days, but out of an 8 day cycle its pretty much only 2 heavy days and a couple speed days.
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Lets see some before and after pics. And Im not saying that to be an ass. I love before and after pics.
ok let me see if I have any "before" pics, I know I took some a while back, just gotta hunt them down on my HD

these are the spokespeople for this program and ast-ss, they are (supposedly) openly natural, and use max-ot specifically

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pretty fucking huge huh

jeff willet

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ok let me see if I have any "before" pics, I know I took some a while back, just gotta hunt them down on my HD

these are the spokespeople for this program and ast-ss, they are (supposedly) openly natural, and use max-ot specifically

skip lacour


pretty fucking huge huh

jeff willet


those guys must have some good "gear"
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http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum...p?s=&forumid=2
links to main forum
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check this out yo

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http://www.squeezer.net/upload/greg3.jpg
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yeah greg valentino's arms were freaking huge, he was a synthol abuser.. lmfao... dumbass
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:17 PM   #20
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ok let me see if I have any "before" pics, I know I took some a while back, just gotta hunt them down on my HD

these are the spokespeople for this program and ast-ss, they are (supposedly) openly natural, and use max-ot specifically

skip lacour


pretty fucking huge huh

jeff willet

I only needed to look once to tell you these guys are heavy roid users.

The chest gives it away too lol

Notice this chest, hes natrual and took him years and hes in no way close to roids users

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yeah greg valentino's arms were freaking huge, he was a synthol abuser.. lmfao... dumbass
thats a temp oil booster
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BEFORE:





AFTER:

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I just read most of the Max-OT and it actually makes sense. I think I am going to give it a try. It's pretty close to my current work out technique. Now, I am a scrawney bastard but I gained 4 pounds in 9 days.
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Notice this chest, hes natrual and took him years and hes in no way close to roids users

how you can compare john basedow to these guys is beyond me.. basedow does "gay man's" workouts which involve high reps with low radio at a "heart pumping cardio pace" ... his is the mcdonalds of workout programs
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how you can compare john basedow to these guys is beyond me.. basedow does "gay man's" workouts which involve high reps with low radio at a "heart pumping cardio pace" ... his is the mcdonalds of workout programs
you just dont want to face reality
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I just read most of the Max-OT and it actually makes sense. I think I am going to give it a try. It's pretty close to my current work out technique. Now, I am a scrawney bastard but I gained 4 pounds in 9 days.
good luck with it man, and come post your results after a month or two... I bet all the naysayers in this thread will eat their words

also, if you needa any help, hit me up
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Notice this chest, hes natrual and took him years and hes in no way close to roids users

A thick head of hair is also a sign of being natural. There are very few heavy roid users who have a lot of hair (especially if they take orals like dbol and anadrol).
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A thick head of hair is also a sign of being natural. There are very few heavy roid users who have a lot of hair (especially if they take orals like dbol and anadrol).

EXACTLY!
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I'm sorry to tell you B Sandwich but that workout is a standard that has been around for years. Even before me and I've been deep into fitness for almost 17 years.

If you really wanna gain crazy size quickly find the 100 rep squat routine or the 100 rep deadlift routine. Nothing makes people gain faster than that without gearing up. The problem is only a few people have the heart to handle the routine.
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I'm sorry to tell you B Sandwich but that workout is a standard that has been around for years. Even before me and I've been deep into fitness for almost 17 years.

If you really wanna gain crazy size quickly find the 100 rep squat routine or the 100 rep deadlift routine. Nothing makes people gain faster than that without gearing up. The problem is only a few people have the heart to handle the routine.
is that german volume training? funny u say that, I am about to start the 10x10 routine starting two mondays from now, when I start my next 1-test/4-ad cycle, since I don't think max-ot is enough volume

and nowhere in this thread did I say that "workout standard" was new.. I just said it works
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A thick head of hair is also a sign of being natural. There are very few heavy roid users who have a lot of hair (especially if they take orals like dbol and anadrol).
this dudes hair looks thick to me, I don't see any balding

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found some before and afters. the pics section on the bodybuilding board is fantastic.

http://www.twowiresthin.com/wl2003/

He says he did it in 5 months.
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found some before and afters. the pics section on the bodybuilding board is fantastic.

http://www.twowiresthin.com/wl2003/

He says he did it in 5 months.
he looks good, but he could use a big bulking phase, then another cutting phase, and he would be a good 185 ripped
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If you really wanna gain crazy size quickly find the 100 rep squat routine or the 100 rep deadlift routine. Nothing makes people gain faster than that without gearing up.

rep squat routine or rep deadlift routine??

for what, having huge legs and thighs?

Btw, how many pounds of muscle can you expect (in month) if you start using creatine? Working out 5 days/week?
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Btw, how many pounds of muscle can you expect (in month) if you start using creatine? Working out 5 days/week?
2-5 lbs of water weight
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this dudes hair looks thick to me, I don't see any balding

He has thin hair and probably uses rogaine.
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found some before and afters. the pics section on the bodybuilding board is fantastic.

http://www.twowiresthin.com/wl2003/

He says he did it in 5 months.

5 months? Man... is that possible?

Looks like his hair got a lot thinner in those 5 months too...

and he looks a few years older in the face if you ask me

Is he selling/promoting anything?
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Man.. I guess that guy is legit. He's got pretty detailed logs with photos. I guess the logs probably helped keep him motivated & focused.
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1.5 - grams of protein per pound of bodyweight to intake daily


So, if you dont reach the amount neccessary, what can you do?

Take another protein shake 40g ? (thats added to the one I take after my workout)

Can you do that?

and do you need that much protein even the days you dont workout?
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rep squat routine or rep deadlift routine??

for what, having huge legs and thighs?

Btw, how many pounds of muscle can you expect (in month) if you start using creatine? Working out 5 days/week?

Either 100 rep squats routine or 100 rep deadlift. You do a light workout once a week of all the bodyparts and focus on a 100 rep descending weight continuous set once every 6 days.

It's sick. It's incredibly effective. Your legs and back are the biggest muscle groups in your body. When you do these highly taxing exercises on those groups it stimulates the rest of your body. I have seen guys grab 15 pounds of pure muscle over a couple of 6 week cycles.

Not many people can stick with it though. But as Escort Biz said in the beginning thread it's all about the rest and recuperation and the 100 rep squat routine gives you a lot of it.


By the way, creatine is no magic bullet. Make sure your protein intake is perfect before you worry about creatine.
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