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Old 10-25-2002, 12:55 PM   #151
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well if I order a mailorder bride from russia thats considered my property correct? I guess the real question is what is considered property and also since it is considered my property why will i be arrested for the molestation of humping a farm animal?
I have 2 cats and a dog and would never harm an animal but as we have seen, you can pretty much do what you want to animals in this world. I mean fuck dude, we kill and eat them everyday.

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Chicago, IL. - Two teens, Terrance Henigan, 17, of the 1400 block of South Drake Avenue, Chicago, and Marquis Thomas, 18, of the 1400 block of South Central Avenue, Chicago, set a lab mix on fire, dousing him with gas and lighting a match. According to an AP report, the dog was set on fire because he wouldn't fight!! (See report below) The dog was owned by Henigan's 12 year old brother, who frantically tried to throw water on the dog. Police from the Harrison Area district had to shoot the dog to put it out of its misery.

All they got was 1000$ fine for Animal Cruelty.

Weird world we live in.
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Old 10-25-2002, 12:56 PM   #152
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because in SOME places, the act is illegal. The ACT is illegal. That doesn't mean viewing pictures of it on the Internet is illegal.

I love the famous AMP "breakup my posts" posts. I'm just getting some vague clarifications on a few things...lemme go warm up my goat sybian!
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Old 10-25-2002, 12:58 PM   #153
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I love the famous AMP "breakup my posts" posts. I'm just getting some vague clarifications on a few things...lemme go warm up my goat sybian!
sorry.... was just trying to answer you....


anyway, this beast topic has been done to death here before...
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Why in the fuck would you keep listing someone that you know has cheated you?


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Why in the fuck do people think they're so smart to ask such dumb ass questions when the answer was posted just a few messages before.

Try reading the fucking thread before hitting the reply button.
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Old 10-25-2002, 12:58 PM   #155
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EVERY SINGLE adult affiliate program (or any program for that matter) has to deal with cheaters, scumbags, etc.

Ask Lensman how many accounts he closes every month because someone violated the TOS and tried to rip him off. Ask any program... When's the last time you saw a professional program resort to denial of service attacks to retaliate for a terms vioalation?

CE did this shit in '97 or so a few times and they got all kinds of hell for it. I don't see FM resorting to this stuff anymore.

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!
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EVERY SINGLE adult affiliate program (or any program for that matter) has to deal with cheaters, scumbags, etc.

Ask Lensman how many accounts he closes every month because someone violated the TOS and tried to rip him off. Ask any program... When's the last time you saw a professional program resort to denial of service attacks to retaliate for a terms vioalation?

CE did this shit in '97 or so a few times and they got all kinds of hell for it. I don't see FM resorting to this stuff anymore.

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!
I agree with you KC... but TheHun isn't a program. He's a guy with a link site and a gob of traffic.
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sorry.... was just trying to answer you....


anyway, this beast topic has been done to death here before...
no need for the frown face..i was serious! goat sybian coming soon!
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EVERY SINGLE adult affiliate program (or any program for that matter) has to deal with cheaters, scumbags, etc.

Ask Lensman how many accounts he closes every month because someone violated the TOS and tried to rip him off. Ask any program... When's the last time you saw a professional program resort to denial of service attacks to retaliate for a terms vioalation?

CE did this shit in '97 or so a few times and they got all kinds of hell for it. I don't see FM resorting to this stuff anymore.

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!
sponsers have the right to cancel a check - once someone doesn't get paid they don't keep trying much more. Hun doesn't have this option.
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Old 10-25-2002, 01:05 PM   #159
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if more come in from this guy, feel free to add more here. it helps alot! Lets stop this guy from getting his galleries listed.
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sponsers have the right to cancel a check - once someone doesn't get paid they don't keep trying much more. Hun doesn't have this option.
may i ddos attack u becasue u dont like my gallery? I mean, its against MY TOS..
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ok am i missing gfy history? is there a reason u picked gfy or u afraid of the BIG guys?
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EVERY SINGLE adult affiliate program (or any program for that matter) has to deal with cheaters, scumbags, etc.

Ask Lensman how many accounts he closes every month because someone violated the TOS and tried to rip him off. Ask any program... When's the last time you saw a professional program resort to denial of service attacks to retaliate for a terms vioalation?

CE did this shit in '97 or so a few times and they got all kinds of hell for it. I don't see FM resorting to this stuff anymore.

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!

One big advantage to the sposor programs: they send money. So they have reliable contact information on the people they are in contact with. It's easy to get an e-mail address, so I don't have that advantage. That's why we talked about the paid submissions... see a few posts back about that...

If Lensman would host the site of a cheater, or knew the host, I'm pretty sure he would close his server. A lot of sponsorship programs don't pay Russian webmasters anymore. Big decision, 'cause there's a lot of good people there that work hard to make an honest buck, but there are a lot of cheaters there too that pay no respect to other people.

I can't block Russian people from submitting. They'd get a proxy in the US and pretend they're from elsewhere. It works differently if you want to recieve a check. blacklisting people from a sponsorship program is a little less tricky then blocking people from a submitting to a link-site...
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Hah. Those galleries are CRAP and should be declined in the first place!
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Old 10-25-2002, 01:13 PM   #164
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may i ddos attack u becasue u dont like my gallery? I mean, its against MY TOS..
Again, this is not something that was done right after the cheat. This guy has been nagging me for weeks. Please don't imply I imgsrc people here like there's no tomorrow, that simply isn't true.
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One big advantage to the sposor programs: they send money. So they have reliable contact information on the people they are in contact with. It's easy to get an e-mail address, so I don't have that advantage. That's why we talked about the paid submissions... see a few posts back about that...
You've chosen to open your submission form to the public, take submissions and list galleries without first requiring any sort of reliable contact information.

You have the right to close submissions. You have the right to list only people who pay you first. You have all kinds of options that you could use to make sure that you don't list shitty galleries by sneaky losers.

You don't have the right to DDOS people because they submit shitty galleries.

Nothing personal, and I'm sure I'll never get listed at The Hun again, but this sounds like nothing more than a gigantic temper tantrum being thrown by a spoiled brat.

If some guy with 10k traffic came here and said he was img src'ing someone because they submitted shitty galleries day after day, people would laugh at him, and tell him to get out of the TGP business.
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Hah. Those galleries are CRAP and should be declined in the first place!
Exactly what I was thinking...and I coulda swore at least two people including the hun said they were "quality" galleries...LOL
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Old 10-25-2002, 01:28 PM   #167
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Two more just came in:

http://www.fucking-house.com/toons027/page.html
http://www.porno-777.com/s15/tgp15.html

Both the same fellow... different names, different e-mail address, different IP-address, different server, different layout, different sponsors, different style of URL, same fellow though
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Two more just came in:

http://www.fucking-house.com/toons027/page.html
http://www.porno-777.com/s15/tgp15.html

Both the same fellow... different names, different e-mail address, different IP-address, different server, different layout, different sponsors, different style of URL, same fellow though
2 more "CRAP" galleries.
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You've chosen to open your submission form to the public, take submissions and list galleries without first requiring any sort of reliable contact information.

You have the right to close submissions. You have the right to list only people who pay you first. You have all kinds of options that you could use to make sure that you don't list shitty galleries by sneaky losers.

You don't have the right to DDOS people because they submit shitty galleries.

Nothing personal, and I'm sure I'll never get listed at The Hun again, but this sounds like nothing more than a gigantic temper tantrum being thrown by a spoiled brat.

If some guy with 10k traffic came here and said he was img src'ing someone because they submitted shitty galleries day after day, people would laugh at him, and tell him to get out of the TGP business.

Could you please read the entire topic before you post. I agree with you in every statement here, but this was not what was happening. Here I go again for the 10th time this thread: I do not attack people that submit shitty galleries... sheesh...

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Two more just came in:

http://www.fucking-house.com/toons027/page.html
http://www.porno-777.com/s15/tgp15.html

Both the same fellow... different names, different e-mail address, different IP-address, different server, different layout, different sponsors, different style of URL, same fellow though
Do you think you can post all of the domains you have blacklisted from him so far?
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Could you please read the entire topic before you post. I agree with you in every statement here, but this was not what was happening. Here I go again for the 10th time this thread: I do not attack people that submit shitty galleries... sheesh...
That's exactly what you're doing. Someone is submitting shitty galleries to you, you can't stop yourself from listing them apparently, and so you're now img srcing them. And so effectively, since GFY is the one that's suffering.

The law APPLIES TO YOU AS WELL.
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That's exactly what you're doing. Someone is submitting shitty galleries to you, you can't stop yourself from listing them apparently, and so you're now img srcing them. And so effectively, since GFY is the one that's suffering.

The law APPLIES TO YOU AS WELL.
For you as well: please read the entire topic to see what happened. If this was a simple shitty gallery I think I would be capable to decline it in the first place.
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And so effectively, since GFY is the one that's suffering.

Sucks.
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Looks like the patrick(hun) really doenst have much of a option in this situation. This assclown is the one putting other people at risk, he's the one redirecting to GFY. HE'S the one putting his and others at risk.

We fight it all the time with cheaters that grab a hosting account with the only thought to cheat. We can normally "kick" them before it effects any other client.


I really think the hun as tried all means to settle this. and he's at his last option. I know of another large link list that will img you in a heart beat if all else fails


his site, his traffic..........nuff said.

time to take off for the day.

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I have 2 cats and a dog and would never harm an animal but as we have seen, you can pretty much do what you want to animals in this world. I mean fuck dude, we kill and eat them everyday.

Like:

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Chicago, IL. - Two teens, Terrance Henigan, 17, of the 1400 block of South Drake Avenue, Chicago, and Marquis Thomas, 18, of the 1400 block of South Central Avenue, Chicago, set a lab mix on fire, dousing him with gas and lighting a match. According to an AP report, the dog was set on fire because he wouldn't fight!! (See report below) The dog was owned by Henigan's 12 year old brother, who frantically tried to throw water on the dog. Police from the Harrison Area district had to shoot the dog to put it out of its misery.

All they got was 1000$ fine for Animal Cruelty.

Weird world we live in.
That makes me mad...
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For you as well: please read the entire topic to see what happened. If this was a simple shitty gallery I think I would be capable to decline it in the first place.
I have read the thread in it's entirety.

It's the same tired old shit you use every time you decide to break the law:

"Oh, poor me! He wouldn't respect my authoritay!"

Get a fucking clue. You do not have the right to img src anyone. If you were not in the Netherlands you would probably have the FBI banging on your door pretty soon. As it is, if you keep it up, it doesn't matter, since I assume your servers are in the US.. Let's see.. he.net - no idea where that is.

In any case, if this guy lives in the US, and if your servers are in the US, you may be looking for a new host soon. Because after a certain amount of damage this is no longer a civil matter, it's a criminal one.

You need to pound your head into the desk until you get this: YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW - your scummy submitter IS NOT BREAKING THE LAW. Get it? You are the bad guy here, not him. You are at fault here, not him.
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Even though it isn't an exact analogy, Google.com is a site with gobs of traffic.
I haven't seen them img src anybody who manipulates their listings yet...
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Mr. Hun I highly repect you. And I think that img src'ing cheaters is sometimes the only way to deal with these fuck heads

but I think it's funny as hell that this one turned the tables on ya
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Even though it isn't an exact analogy, Google.com is a site with gobs of traffic.
I haven't seen them img src anybody who manipulates their listings yet...

I've seen them ban whole "c class" for cheaters. and there's other sites on those ip's
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So you would prefer he allows this dude to keep trying to mess up his livelyhood?

The Yellow Pages is how Patrick affords food and his housing. At the rate this guy seems to be sending galleries he could overflow Hun's Overflow! He has to be stopped however Patrick can stop him. Obviously it's not possible to stop all of his galleries so he has to do whatever he can.

How can you fault The Hun for doing this? Personally I would send a letter bomb his way. Hun is being a nice guy with this situation.

And guys, who cares if someone sticks a horse dick in them? Is fucking a dog causing some type emotional damage to it? I think feeding it that stinking Alpo in a can is worse.
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O quiet, I know... and I don't mind baring the concequences of that. So far it solved a lot of things for me... Most cheaters don't have the resources to crawl back up from a blow like this. It's fighting fire with fire, I realise that like I said before. But sometimes I think fighting fire with fire can be justified...
I agree that you have to fight fire with fire... but if you iframe someone then they can burn your ass too by iframing your archived sites for example and other people as well...

Dont get me wrong, if I had the traffic you had I would iframe every post that Equinox makes

BTW, does anyone know if it would be possible to sue someone for iframing your site??

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yes it was - thehun.net is his baby
That is up there as one of the stupidest comments ever on GFY, I think it even beats some of mine.

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Again, img srcing is a last resort...

The solution for the Iraq problem shouldn't be bombs either. Talking should be the solution, politics, things like that. Ok, that's been tried. So bombs are the last resort the US can fall back to. Might not be the perfect comparison, 'cause we're not talking life and death in regard to my page, but still... I don't think the two topics are that far apart...
Iraq vs. US = That cheater vs. The Hun...

Wow, you have one hell of an ego on you (not that there is anything wrong with that.)
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OK, img sourcing is illegal or whatever.... if it is or not i really dont give a shit.

Im just curious why GFY is the target? Cant you just redirect to some other site? Someone who deserves it?

Or is it the dude with the shitty galleries who is sending the traffic here?
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I've seen them ban whole "c class" for cheaters. and there's other sites on those ip's
And? That's quite different from img srcing people...
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How about if Lensman img src you for violating his TOS regarding signatures?
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I have read the thread in it's entirety.

It's the same tired old shit you use every time you decide to break the law:

"Oh, poor me! He wouldn't respect my authoritay!"

Get a fucking clue. You do not have the right to img src anyone. If you were not in the Netherlands you would probably have the FBI banging on your door pretty soon. As it is, if you keep it up, it doesn't matter, since I assume your servers are in the US.. Let's see.. he.net - no idea where that is.

In any case, if this guy lives in the US, and if your servers are in the US, you may be looking for a new host soon. Because after a certain amount of damage this is no longer a civil matter, it's a criminal one.

You need to pound your head into the desk until you get this: YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW - your scummy submitter IS NOT BREAKING THE LAW. Get it? You are the bad guy here, not him. You are at fault here, not him.
You seem to want to proof I'm wrong... He was breaking the law too... Wasn't he the one sending traffic to GFY? To you that would be true, right?

Name me any law I can use to fight this guy. Any one. Fraud would be one, I could take him to court and fight it over. He doesn't reply to any of my accounts. Traces to find the guy end in Russia... So, what then? No more options Mr. Backov. Not a single one. I can't sue someone I don't know and doesn't want to crawl out from under his rock now can I?

There's laws against killing people. Still the US seems to have enough against Iraq to kill a few soles there. Like I said earlier, politics should be the solution, not bombs, but since there no reasoning with those people bombing seems to be to only means to fall back to. Illegal? I belief so. Justified? You answer that one...




ps... again, I'm making this analogy 'cause I think the problems are much alike... what do you do when all legal methods fail or can't be used... in my case there's no lifes at stake, but I still think the point in this is very clear...
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Old 10-25-2002, 01:55 PM   #186
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So you would prefer he allows this dude to keep trying to mess up his livelyhood?
LOL

So all the gallery makers who make good galleries and get rejected should start fire bombing the TGP owner's houses? After all, you're screwing with their livelihood by not listing them.
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Old 10-25-2002, 01:55 PM   #187
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ok we all agree he is trin to keep his investment but drop it on gfy...cant do the big guys cause they would swallow it like nothing?

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Old 10-25-2002, 01:58 PM   #188
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Two more just came in:

http://www.fucking-house.com/toons027/page.html
http://www.porno-777.com/s15/tgp15.html

Both the same fellow... different names, different e-mail address, different IP-address, different server, different layout, different sponsors, different style of URL, same fellow though

Hun, im curious how you know it the same person...with everything being different if they're not redirecting as of yet?

Also, perhaps you can get a list of all the domains and post it?
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Old 10-25-2002, 01:58 PM   #189
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And? That's quite different from img srcing people...

And, its effects other people that didnt cheat. They way I'm reading this thead is there's some who are upset that the imgsrc is hurting the others. ie, GFY, networks,routers soforth....

I could be wrong, it happen one other time


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may i ddos attack u becasue u dont like my gallery? I mean, its against MY TOS..

feel free to do it. Understand that there will be concequences.

just like this asshole that fucked the hun - no one of any concequence is really blaiming thehun, but our eyes are a lot more open about this new prick that was tryiong to screw him. and we ARE blaiming the real theif.
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You don't have the right to DDOS people because they submit shitty galleries.
there's a difference between a shitty gallery and something that was DESGINED to STEAL CHEAT and hurt the hun's bookmarks
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You seem to want to proof I'm wrong... He was breaking the law too... Wasn't he the one sending traffic to GFY? To you that would be true, right?
Yep, you're absolutely right there, in passing this traffic on to GFY, he's equally culpable. I should have been more clear there - what he did to cause you to img src him is not illegal.

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Name me any law I can use to fight this guy. Any one. Fraud would be one, I could take him to court and fight it over. He doesn't reply to any of my accounts. Traces to find the guy end in Russia... So, what then? No more options Mr. Backov. Not a single one. I can't sue someone I don't know and doesn't want to crawl out from under his rock now can I?
This doesn't meet the standards for fraud. Your knowledge of the law is weak, grasshopper.

As for options, you have plenty of them - many of which have been pointed out in this thread. You just like the easy road.

Partner Only submit accounts.
More info on submit, etc..

You have tons of options that don't involve you breaking the law. I'll leave your lame-ass Iraq vs the US analogy out of this, as it's not the same.. Unless of course your cheater has some nukes that he's planning to launch at you?

I don't have to prove you wrong - you've admitted it. It wouldn't take much more evidence to convict you. So grow up, and start running your site like the big biz it is. The next time you img src someone it may be someone big enough to take it all away from you, or at least fuck you up good.

This isn't the wild west anymore dude.

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why is who is cheating on his page even have to make a difference to gfy? Thats like me beating the fuck out of a random black guy because the snipers pissed me off
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feel free to do it. Understand that there will be concequences.

just like this asshole that fucked the hun - no one of any concequence is really blaiming thehun, but our eyes are a lot more open about this new prick that was tryiong to screw him. and we ARE blaiming the real theif.
Testing out your new kneepads today, eh? How they holding up?
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Old 10-25-2002, 02:02 PM   #195
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Hun, im curious how you know it the same person...with everything being different if they're not redirecting as of yet?

Also, perhaps you can get a list of all the domains and post it?
Ya, how do you know this is the same cat?

MikeEP, where in so cal are ya?
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Anyway, what was I trying to acchief, and what do I usually acchief with these attacks? Usually it wakes people up. Most cheaters think they're invulnerable, that nobody can touch 'em. If I can cause 'em more grief than what they make by cheating on me they'll stop, simple as that. It's not like I'm slamming hard working webmasters that try to make an honest buck. On the contrary. This cheater is hurting people's trust in the Internet. I'm sticking out my neck for that...

I said before, I bare full consequences of this. That's why I'm spending my entire evening replying to everybody here. You can't please 'em all. Some people will not agree with me. Tough luck. Can't please 'em all. Fighting fire with fire can be justified sometimes. Where the line is drawn depends on the person though. This was not something I decided to do in a few days, he's been nagging me for weeks. He's STILL submitting to me (see the reports I posted here). This guy doesn't reason. He needs to be tought a lesson, I STILL feel that.
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LOL

So all the gallery makers who make good galleries and get rejected should start fire bombing the TGP owner's houses? After all, you're screwing with their livelihood by not listing them.
Hahahaha! No, they have options. They aren't bieng tricked. If someone said they were being listed definitely and then didn't maybe they would have a case for anger.

We are talking about basic trickery. Hucksterism. Three card monty and there's no police to help get the money back in this situation.

If you are wronged do whatever is in your means to fix the situation.
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There's 2 or 3 others submitted on the easy-dialer server. This is where drawnsex is sending traffic, so I suspect the two to be the same. Maybe it IS time to start mass-loading the dialer straight from easy-dialer.com. They didn't reply to any of my e-mails... if anybody is in contact with 'em, let 'em know I'm seeking urgent contact with 'em. If they don't react... well... we'll see what happens.

That's lame...but then again, what else do you expect from a dialer company. I don't think easy-dialer is even a site. Shows up nothing on that url. Probably a reseller..but who knows.
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Another one just came in. http://www.sweetnsexybutts.com/g2610/221.html.
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there's a difference between a shitty gallery and something that was DESGINED to STEAL CHEAT and hurt the hun's bookmarks
We've already solved this problem. The Hun can close submissions. He can list only friend's galleries. He can list only paid galleries. He can list only his own galleries.

He can do lots of things. He can't DDOS people who crappy galleries (or even galleries designed to STEAL CHEAT and hurt the hun's bookmarks) any more than he could drive to their house and firebomb them or break their legs.
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